My, have things changed

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Then how can you support a president who is healthcare and food for the poor children?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is. That's how it grows.


    No it's a woman's right to kill her unborn baby.

    That doesn't make it okay.
     
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    DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, calling a human zygote a zygote is NOT dehumanizing it.

    Calling a human fetus a fetus is NOT dehumanizing it...


    Not like Anti-Choicers want to DEHUMANIZE women and turn them into nothing but broodstock that must be forced to keep up their "bloodlines" like cattle.......
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    your posts consist of babble.
     
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    I'm all for choice, motherhood, adoption, those are choices. I'm just anti murder.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    A president who is healthcare and food for poor children???

    Not sure what that means.
     
  7. Renee

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    If you think abortion is murder, then you should not be for choice. Kinda shows a lack of principles.
     
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  8. Renee

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    Sorry...I meant opposes
     
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    Adoption and motherhood are choices. I'm just against the one choice that results in death.
     
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    Yeah correct your wording.
     
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    What babble! How irrational.

    DUH, there is no choice if there is only one option, giving birth.

    NO, that is ANTI-Choice.

    See, the word "choice" means there is a choice between two or more things and you only listed one, giving birth....can you see how silly that is?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) Of course the bolded was ignored ;
    FoxHastings said:
    I guess you don't think that the conservative Supreme Court when they ruled on RvW behaved rationally either...

    ..anyone who doesn't agree with you is "irrational" YES, you stated that...several times...

    :) Just another of your many excuses :)

    Your replies consist of :
    """Oh OH I can't answer or refute , I better type "strawman" to get out of it! Oh,Oh, Help! """""





    No, as usual , it consists of things you can't address :) so out come your excuses :)
     
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    https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392
    Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.

    Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    The quotation stems from Niemöller's lectures during the early postwar period. Different versions of the quotation exist. These can be attributed to the fact that Niemöller spoke extemporaneously and in a number of settings. Much controversy surrounds the content of the poem as it has been printed in varying forms, referring to diverse groups such as Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews, Trade Unionists, or Communists depending upon the version. Nonetheless his point was that Germans—in particular, he believed, the leaders of the Protestant churches—had been complicit through their silence in the Nazi imprisonment, persecution, and murder of millions of people.

    Only in 1963, in a West German television interview, did Niemöller acknowledge and make a statement of regret about his own antisemitism (see Gerlach, 2000, p. 47). Nonetheless, Martin Niemöller was one of the earliest Germans to talk publicly about broader complicity in the Holocaust and guilt for what had happened to the Jews. In his book Über die deutsche Schuld, Not und Hoffnung (published in English as Of Guilt and Hope)—which appeared in January 1946—Niemöller wrote: "Thus, whenever I chance to meet a Jew known to me before, then, as a Christian, I cannot but tell him: 'Dear Friend, I stand in front of you, but we can not get together, for there is guilt between us. I have sinned and my people has sinned against thy people and against thyself.'"
     
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    I can fill in the blanks.

    They came for the women and their rights and I said nothing because they were "only" women.
     
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    :applause::applause:
    To him, women are either ugly pigs or pieces of ass.
     
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    Call it whenever you want.
     
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    Choice includes abortion. Don’t call yourself pro-choice because you’re not. How nice of you to give women the choice of giving up their babies or having a child they cannot afford and do not want.
     
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    I don't recall ever saying abortion should be legal just that I view it as murder.

    if they can't afford it or do not want it that would be a good idea to give it up for adoption. Why kill it?
     
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    :) Of course I will......
     
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    Maybe because the woman doesn't want to go through the pain and physical damage done by pregnancy nor lose time off work, nor jeopardize her job and career, nor want to PAY for all the medical bills or added financial problems of pregnancy....


    Doesn't matter what HER reason is or what her choice is , her's is the ONLY reason and choice that matters....
     
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    The real question (and this is where actual choice comes in) is if they don't want children, why are the pregnant in the first place?

    We've understood what causes babies for a while now. And how to avoid them.
     
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    No, the choice is in whether or not to do that which makes babies, in a manner which doesn't prevent babies.
     
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    No, that is not the "choice" issue at all....

    If you are trying to say people should stop having sex please DO PROVE how that has stopped people from having sex for the last million years or so....
     
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