"My Two Dads" — german children's program

It doesn't matter. He was still a dad to me even though he was just my step-father. He acted as a parent towards my brother and I despite us not being biologically related even though he was never expected to. He did everything a parent should do with a child, he watched cartoons with us, he made us breakfasts, lunches and dinners, he helped us with homework, he disciplined us when we were bad, he bought us toys on Christmas, he was there for us when we had a bad day, he was someone we could go to and talk to if we needed him. He was just as much a father as my own dad. I didn't see my biological father as much as I would have liked but he also did many of the same things with us. We had a pretty decent childhood all in all and I can honestly say I had two fathers and one mother. I had three parents raising me and whether you like it or not, that was NORMAL and healthy!

If my mother had stayed with my father that would not have been normal and healthy at all. Not for any of us involved. Go ahead and ask me why if you want to.

The point is, having a normal and healthy family is based on how the children are being raised, not by whom they are being raised. However it is unfortunate that people need to come forward and actually say, "Yes, we are a gay couple and we are raising a child/children together and our family is perfectly normal."

They have to do that because people like you keep saying that's not normal.

 

But it apparently doesn't fit sec's definition of normal either, because I was raised by three individual parents, not just my two biological ones. The point is we all have different families and it is perfectly normal to have multiple parents of the same gender, or a single parent, or to be raised by your grandparents, or to be raised by an adoptive family or even to be raised by a gay couple who you call dad and daddy or mom and mommy. These are all normal and sometimes even more healthy than being raised by one's biological parents especially if your original parents had problems or fought a lot or did drugs, etc.

A person's definition of normal is subjective. What may be normal to you might not be normal to someone else.

 

No, actually, it's entirely natural. It's partially genetic and very well explained by biology as a natural function in social animals, particularly primates.

And this doesn't matter. At all.

Rare != abberation. You know what else is rare? Interracial pairings. Black-white pairings are something like 5% of black people and 0.4% of white people. That's rarer than homosexuality! Is that abnormal? Is that an abberration?

That's not tolerance.

 

no, it's not normal to have 3 dads and even 2 moms. 1 dad and 1 mom is normal

it wasn't normal for my wife and I to raise our nephew because his bio parents were pieces of......(I'll keep it clean)

Yes, he was treated like our own children. In fact, he has now been elevated as "my favorite" because he has given us a "grandchild"

If you want to move yourself up a notch or two; give us grandkids

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

homosexuality is a result partly of genetics but mainly environmental factors. There is no "gay gene". The environmental factors are abnormal which adds weight to the idea that homosexuality is an aberration.

Understanding it doesn't have anything to do with making it normal or acceptable.

Religion is a part of human society. Religion motivates people and is a basis for their actions, no different than political belief or the rule of law or people acting on their conscience or feelings. Religion does matter, you just don't like it.

Rare does equal aberration - it deviates from the standard course of action and typical behaviour.

And your data is wrong.

Interracial marriages http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/16/the-rise-of-intermarriage/

About 15% of all new marriages in the United States in 2010 were between spouses of a different race or ethnicity from one another, more than double the share in 1980 (6.7%). Among all newlyweds in 2010, 9% of whites, 17% of blacks, 26% of Hispanics and 28% of Asians married out. Looking at all married couples in 2010, regardless of when they married, the share of intermarriages reached an all-time high of 8.4%. In 1980, that share was just 3.2%​

And those are just marriages, it doesn't count mixed race couples living togethor or dating.

Gay & lesbian people http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/gay-population-us-estimate_n_846348.html

Gates' best estimate, derived from five studies that have asked subjects about their sexual orientation, is that the nation has about 4 million adults who identify as being gay or lesbian, representing 1.7 percent of the 18-and-over population.​

Also consider that the gay population is concentrated in certain regions of the country.

1.7% of the population is gay or lesbian - thats rare, uncommon, and an aberration. Mixed race relations are far more common than gay

It most certainly is tolerance.

Tolerance - sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own.
Approval - the belief that something is good

I don't have to approve of homosexuality, but I can tolerate people who are homosexual in a "live and let live" manner. Don't try to force your homosexual attitude upon me or my kids, and I will leave you alone.

 

You were not raised by gay parents. That is the issue.

 

Well, unless you grew up in a time or place where polygamy was normal. A variance doesn't necessarily mean inferior or superior outcomes, although it is debated among polygamists and those who oppose them.

Would challenges he may have faced be related to the "abnormal" situation, or the fact that he may have experienced hardship due to the fact that his parents were pieces of....... and he had to deal with being displaced into a new home and feel a bit like an outcast? Those latter factors could be far more important than strictly having to do with the "abnormal" situation he found himself in with you guys, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the home you provided.

Why have kids when you can spoil your brother's kids .

Call this weird, but my mother has actually offered to carry my child. Not with her egg of course, with a donor egg.

 

Look, you may want to fit every single human being into your definition of "normal" and sit here and tell us that our families were abnormal just because it does not fit your little finite definition of "normal" but my family was normal. It was normal and healthy and you can never tell anyone who feels the same way otherwise.

Time to get off your ignorant high horse and get over it. Fact: families will be different and normalcy is subjective.

 

Doesn't matter. Every family is different and normalcy is totally subjective. What is normal or ideal in your eyes may not be normal or ideal in someone else's. Somebody who has two dads or two mom, that is normal for them. I had a step-dad, a mom and a dad. That was normal for me and my family and it was by far much healthier than my mother remaining married to my father.

 

nope

I dunk my McDonalds hamburger into a McDonalds milkshake; is that "normal"?

it is you who tries to ride the high horse attempting to change the true definitions of words

a man having sex with another man is not normal. 2 men playing mommy and daddy is not normal. Dunking a hamburger into a shake isn't normal


up is up and down is down whether you like it or not does not change reality. Lemme guess, when you're old enough, you'll vote Democrat

 

Does it matter that you like to dunk your hamburger in a milkshake? nope, not really

 

zactly

just like I could care with whom anyone sleeps as long as it's consenting adults. Normal is a word to describe the behavior of the majority aka "the norm"


oh, and as long as you remove the pickle I suggest you try it; it's quite tasty.

 

Odd considering the classic example of an odd pregnancy craving specifically involves dipping pickles in ice cream. Your condition is highly abnormal, even by that standard.

 

It's normal to you if you've been doing it forever and you like it that way. I personally prefer dipping my french fries in my shakes, that's more normal and tasty to me.

It is you who fails to realize that what each of us perceives to be normal may not fit into your perfect little box of what you believe to be "ideally normal".

It would be abnormal for a gay man to marry a woman, because it is totally undesirable to him. It would be far more normal for him to seek out a partnership with and marry another man. And vice versa for lesbians.

It is also perfectly normal for all human beings to have a desire to proceate and have children, straight or gay, and they DO whether you like it or not.

I've been a registered Libertarian since I was 18. I mistakenly voted for McCain last election when I should have voted for the Libertarian candidate, which is what I will be doing this year.

Sorry hun, but I am not going to fit into that little box you want to stuff me into either.

 

Your post is the typical thinking based upon prejudice/homophobia that we have all encountered too often.

Bottom line: Teach the kids about the realities of human sexuality (even teach them your values); but for goodness sake, let THEM decide what they are or BE what they are going to be when it comes to their sexual-orientation.

It doesn't make sense to keep dramatizing the REALITY that some people are gay; it's common, and it's certainly normal.

 

Some liberals bring up STUPID questions and so do conservatives. What's your point?

The kid is going to SING about what they view as being reality (as most kids do 'honestly'). For a kid his age to sing/wirte like that, most like indicates he means what he's saying or experiences what he's expressing.

Do you accept homosexual people and/or homosexuality?

And if you do not, what 'controls' upon people's lives would you like to see imposed by law?

(Come on, let's get down to where the rubber meets the road.)

 

Look, having same-sex is not 'abnormal' in truth, though it is less common than the alternatives (single parent or opposite-sex).

It is NOT "far from normal"; that is merely your OPINION.

 

Thats right, its opnion. An "opinion" is an interpretation of facts, it is subjective to an extent, but not all opnions are equal. Some opinions are correct as proven through experience and history.

Opinion defines "normal" in a society. The vast majority of people (98.6%) are not gay. A typical (i.e., normal) person is heterosexual and a typical marriage/couple is a male and a female. That style of relationship was evolved over the centuries as the best way to raise children and the best foundation for a society.

Homosexuality is a sexual preference. There are some times in history in which bisexuality was wide spread and accepted (Sparta), but never homosexuality. Its only been in the last 20-30 years that homosexuality has been promoted as a complete lifestyle.

No matter how you spin it, homosexuality is very far from normal - that means it is abnormal.

 

you are getting enraged because you are confusing "normal" with "evil" or "bad"

I do many abnormal things, trust me. It is normal for a woman to sleep with a man and vice versa. Heck, nature gave us parts designed for that activity.

But, if you as a man like other men then it's no skin off of my nose and not even my business. I have been consistent about that in every single post. However, the behavior is not "normal" because you must use the majority when referencing the generic term "normal"

If I and my wife walked into a gay bar then it would not be normal for that particular crowd for us to dance together. However, when viewed across the large entire population our behavior would be perfectly normal and the gay dances would be abnormal

So, as you try and play words you must be absolutely clear as to how you are using the term "normal". The default use is the majority. If you want to address "normal" when only discussing 1.7% of the population (gay population) then yes, gay sex is perfectly normal within that group and heterosexual sex would be abnormal.

And by the way, you missed a few of my posts to click the dislike button. You may want to go back and do that.

 

hmm

how do you mean "do I accept homosexuals"? Is there something I need to know which I'm not privvy? Do homosexuals have a propensity to steal, murder, punch, spit, use profanity or any other activity I want to avoid? Do you get my drift yet after all of this time? I could give a flying leap about who you diddle. You are no different than me other than with whom you have sex. You yourself are a military man. You are not a gay military man. You are a brother, an uncle a friend. You are not a gay brother, gay friend or gay uncle.

It is you who is actually caught up on the label and not me. I am 100% for treating everyone the same as individuals and not creating more and more silos such as hetero couple, gay couple, butt crack showing people etc.

I vehemently oppose "gay marriage" just like I oppose "affirmative action"

neither helps. Both do nothing but create more little groups. It's time we go back to individuals and get govt out of our lives as much as possible. I'd rather give you 3x pay because your job is needed by us vs the useless bureaucrats everywhere to watch over these nonsense rules and regs.

Why do you think the only thing I ever hammer you on is your liberalism????? It makes absolutely no sense to me for you to be a liberal

 

I suggest checking the mirror. Your posts are not reflective of a Libertarian. Unless of course you feel you can define the word to be whatever you wish. Embrace your leftist leanings and be honest about it.

 

Feel free to continue making assumptions about me all you like, but always know they will be wrong and very off topic. I know I am left leaning on some issues and I am right leaning on others, as many Libertarians are.

 

Tolerance is the Gay agenda !

Nothing wrong with promoting tolerance.

 

'Normal is a social construct everyone sees normal differently so it's entirely subjective.'

What an absolutely ridiculous statement to make.You might as well declare that sex between a dog and a human being can also be construed as a 'social construct' or that between a mother and her son.No doubt that will be next thing the social manipulators will clamor to declare as being normal with any challenge being considered to be 'entirely subjective'.

Fortunately, not all thinking peple will be fooled by such sloppy and manipulative thinking.

 

Too bad. I think you need to rethink your biases.

We will definitely be opposing one another; that's for sure.