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    For the purposes of fairness, I'm not calling Momentum Fascist, I'm wondering if they're Fascist.
     
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    [​IMG]

    http://mancunion.com/2017/12/11/momentums-loyalty-test/

     
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    You forgot the long term links between Toryism and fascism? Tut tut!

    Momemtum is arguably bigger than the whole Tory membership. I suppose that's one to break those long term links....
     
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    You know Hitler was a left winger.
    Why else did he invade Poland?
     
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    That you believe that merely guarantees your irrelevance.
     
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    The fact you don't see it, and deny any link of any article that says so.
    The fact that you don't acknowledge history.
     
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    You have no understanding of history. You illustrate that by suggesting Hitler was a lefty, who murdered countless socialists and communists.

    You should be ashamed of your ignorance.
     
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    You should be ashamed of your arrogance, to assume a lefty can't do all that.
     
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    I'm not surprised you couldn't respond with anything but playground tactic. Why do you think right wingers are more anti-semetic? Why do you think fascists join the Tory Party and not the Labour Party? Think now!
     
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    I don't think they exclusively join Labour, but I do think Momentum are Neo Fascist and feel Sajid Javid should defend his remarks and bring this issue to the public's attention.
     
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    He'd be sued straight away; he has hid behind parliamentary privilege. And you should be too!

    I've already informed you of the evidence:

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    Why do you know so little on these issues? Or are you deliberately pretending? That's the nature of the 'big lie' I suppose.
     
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    Save the charts for when you're cataloguing my stools you streamlining sick Momentum ****.
     
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    @Reiver I'm NOT saying he won't get sued, I'm saying Sajid Javid should defend his remarks and win, and out Momentum.
     
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    Save the evidence that shows that the Conservatives are more anti-semitic? Gosh, you really are a classic Tory!
     
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    I'm a patriot seeking a freer Britain...

    It's an issue for me that little girls get shut down in my country by the council for lemonade stands, but in America, they don't.
    that's an issue.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/21/girl-fined-running-homemade-lemonade-stall

    I feel it promotes entrepreneurship and we don't need a government dictating us what to do!


    You're not even a Liberal @Reiver I'm more Liberal than you.
     
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    Why would a Liberal join the National Socialist Neo Fascist that is Momentum?

    They won't, they'd join the Tory Party in a 2 horse race.

    Think about it.
     
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    No, you're a sheep of the mass media. You repeat absurd claim and show no understanding of politics. I'm sure you excel elsewhere mind you. Eating celery with gutso perhaps? That would be a positive!
     
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    Dear old Labour at it again. I'm not familiar with Momentum but it seems to be another manifestation of the what I might broadly call the socialist left. They eschew pragmatism for ideology. And that leads to all sorts of games within the broader Party. The Right loves it, it can portray Labour as tearing itself apart (again) and it's a sure bet that the electorate isn't keen on a party that fights more with itself than it does with its opposition.

    Fascist they're not. Wrong ideology. Authoritarian, dogmatic, yes. Fascism is more on the Tory side as Reiver has pointed out. A look at the Tories in the 1930s will bear out that allegation.

    As for anti-Semitism. Is it more anti-Likud?

    Labour has a history of supporting the concept of the Jewish state going back to Laski. I think possibly even before that they were supportive of the idea of a Jewish homeland. I doubt if it's anti-Semitism as much as pro-Palestinian and anti-current Israeli government and its policies.
     
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    Momentum fear mass media?
    Hmmm...
    LOVE celery, it's a super food with negative calories targeting and burning abdominal fat; plus it's affordable unlike my Matcha Tea which comes from hard work and being able to afford Matcha Tea.
    Matcha Tea is 'good things comes to those who wait' with all the whisking involved as well as a testament to free trade getting Japanese tea and culture in London, UK.
     
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