New problem for the right in america

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Well-Known Member

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    Over the weekend there were some anti assault weapon marches. This was somewhat normal, but something interesting happened that the news is not quite covering. I live in retirement central Florida. Around here is where a lot of boomers are going because this area has a number of really great options for them in their retirement. Assisted living and 55 plus communities are not the restrictive nursing homes of the 80s.

    One thing that was different this time was that in all the marches outside of the fifty five plus communities you saw what would have been the Woodstock generation waving anti assault weapons signs. This was not happening in assisted living which would be their parents communities for Korean war age elderly. However, almost every fifty five plus community got out and made signs and were walking around on the main roads around here.

    That is trouble for the right. That means that the Woodstock generation is not becoming the new conservative voter. The boomers are going to be pro social security, anti war, and anti what their parents were. They are not turning into their parents, they are maintaining their independent minds from their parents. Not to mention they are more likely to be open to technology and their kids than their parents were.

    I live close to this and inside of this. I am actually making my living as a gen x forty year old helping out my dying grandparents and my retired parents and their community. Old people my parents age are not trumpistas. They are actually finding connections with their children and grandchildren through long distance communication like never before. They all want to have conversations and travel to see their grandkids, and they are not the burden that the world war two generation was to them. There is a huge difference in how my generation talks to their parents and how their generation talks to theirs. That means that they are not separated and alone like the severe elderly were at their age with the boomers out making a living.

    This is huge trouble for the right wing because the right relies on the old to be afraid and lonely. It relies on them to be bitter and vote against their children in spite. When I see the Woodstock generation out there protesting like they did in their fourth against their parents idiocy I see that faux news and the conservative elderly are a dying thing which will soon be replaced by an elderly generation of new liberal ideas and better education. It will be an activist generation that cares about the world rather than one that is bitter and voting against it.

    The NRA and the right better beware because you do not see their demographic out there protesting for the guns and the crazy like the dying elderly were. Every day the Korean war and world war two generation are dying off. They are not being replenished. If the republicans want a future and not a last dying gasp they had better start moving center and leftward because the Woodstock generation is not who their parents were.
     
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    All the more reason to buy more guns and buy more ammo.

    The criminals out there aren't going to suddenly stop using guns because some cucked leftist pieces of Nazi filth decided to trampled on the Constitution.

    These dumbass leftist marching around with their signs chanting "we're going to end gun violence yeaaaaa".

    Good ****ing luck losers because the criminals aren't giving up their firearms.

    And if the criminals aren't neither will anybody else.

    So where does that leave us?

    Well this Democrat Sheriff candidate has his opinion...

    It Begins. Democrat Candidate for Sheriff Suggests Killing People to Take Their Guns
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...f-suggests-killing-people-to-take-their-guns/
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Florida is a melting pot when it comes to retirement. Snow birds typically still vote in the states where they came from.

    WWII veterans typically voted Democratic in the first place and the new trend is for retirees to vote based on their economic situation more than anything else.

    If the people you are talking about really like the benefits of the area, then they should vote based on which candidates will likely keep the area that way.

    Plenty of Northeast voters have shown up and have virtually ruined some of the communities on the East coast of Florida by virtue of voting for the same stupid political ideologic crap that ruined the areas where they came from.
     
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    Your stating the 'leftist piece of nazi filth' shows you don't have any idea what's going on except your lips are flapping.
     
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    They're marching around demanding people's guns be confiscated.

    Have you listened to their rhetoric?

    Not the neatly packaged conjob kits the media arranges so that the masses can be fooled into thinking they're supporting something sensible.

    I'm talking about the word on the street.

    Have you ever been to one of these leftist rallies?

    I've heard some uber radical extremist **** from leftist calling for outright murder to leftist calling for citizens to be rounded up.

    If you have the chance to attend of these bigot-fests I urge you to do so (be safe btw) because it will change your mind.
     
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    Did you get on yer plastic panties before you found out?
     
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    Aren't you making a huge assumption with no factual basis?

    That is that "conservative voters" are primarily old people?
     
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    So your theory is that old people have to be afraid, lonely, bitter and spiteful to vote for Republicans.

    Brilliant.

    We are the center. The left are marxists.
     
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    Someone was triggered :(
     
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    Interesting observation. These kids have energized a lot of folks not normally attracted to public display. For all their profanity and bluster, the NRA crowd is worried and don't know what to do about it. These are people not drawn to compromise; it's my way or leave the country. Unfortunately, The Woman's March, The March 24 Rally, globalization, and changing demographics are not on their side. Their inability to adjust marks them as dinosaurs.
     
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    I am more referring to the block of faux news viewers who can be measured as being elderly, white, Christians. There is a large pitch for the right at those people, and it is not carrying to the next generation. The older faux news viewers are becoming more isolated and dying despite being very likely to vote. This means a huge shift is coming in some states.
     
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    The Woodstockers were always the Democratic party base.

    Have you figured out why the Democratic party wants open borders, uncontrolled immigration and awarding illegal aliens with amnesty and citizenship ?

    Because the Woodstockers are short timers and dying off really fast.

    Kinda looks like a new problem for the left in America.
     
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    That is not my theory that is what is traditional and faux news marketing. Have you dealt with the elderly, because they do get scared and alone as their friends die and their mind's start going. This is not some imagined leftist conspiracy. This is the effects of watching your body fail and your life get slowly stripped from you. It is scary and it is not some thing that lessens as time goes on. It actually gets worse and worse and as dementia and memory loss sets in it can be terrifying.

    There is a huge difference in the way the boomers are facing it from the way their parents faced it. The boomers are much more in touch with their children and technology than their parents are. That means less isolation and spite and more communication with youth. That is a huge thing when you think about how it will effect the normal ageing situation.
     
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    Strange because that statement is right there in your OP and I don't see a link to Fox.

    Oh I'm not questioning what aging is like, it's effects, or the more robust technology of 2018.

    I'm questioning your conclusions.
     
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    And I'm saying "do you have actual EVIDENCE that is true?" or are you simply taking it as "conventional wisdom".

    "Conventional wisdom" is very seldom "conventional" or "wisdom".
     
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    You might want to calm down a bit. However, if you are not one of the scared elderly who feels the world is going to get them because all they see is faux news then you are part of the fringe. Very simply that is not reality. The world is not going to end because a bunch of people lose their assault rifles. It is not Hitler invading Poland or the end of freedom. If our freedom was in the hands of the gun owning civilians of the US then our freedom was never protected at all because they are not going to do a thing to protect our freedom. They are not protecting a thing besides their safety blankets because I can tell you the authorities are not scared of your ar15. They know full well they can very easily take you and your gun and there is nothing that is going to stop them. That includes you and your gun. If they want it they will kill you and take it and you are not going to be able to stand against them because they don't have to even give you a shot at them to take yo and your gun out.

    You are not our great freedom fighting heroes. You are not the protectors of liberty. None of that relies on you so you can stand down.
     
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    Danger..
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    If you do not want to see the coming change that is quite fine with me. I am merely pointing it out and that it might not be the end of the world. However she you see the tide coming with every poll saying gun control is the popular choice it is just a matter of time before that wave crests. You can either be a part of the discussion and influence what comes next or you can ignore it and pretend the dwindling right wing core is going to be there after the wave comes through. I am sure there will always be a alt right fringe, but their voting block is taking a beating and it cannot be relied upon to move lock step with the fascist values of previous generations.
     
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    Feed these kids what they really want, MDMA that the kids call ecstacy and they'll back to their safe spaces.

    Most Americans will learn who's really behind this anti gun movement, who's bankrolling it and that David Hogg, Emma Gonzalez, Alfanso Calderon, Alex Wind, Sarah Chadwick and Cameron Kasky are nothing more than the Abbie Hoffman's, Jerry Rubin's, Bernardine Dohrn's, Tom Hayden's, Jane Fonda's and Bill Ayer's of the 21st Century.
     
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    You lost me (and probably others) when you say "fascist values of previous generations".

    Not certain why you think older generations were "fascists" since if you want to get technical a couple of those older generations bled and died to defeat actual fascists.
     
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    When you look at what they did back at home you see many of them wanted things their way or no way, which is fascism, here at home. There is a reason why domestic terrorism is often aligned with Nazi idealism. They were not necessarily fighting against fascism as much as they were fighting against those guys winning. You will find many of those so called defenders of freedom quite opposed to freedom and liberty when you really look at it. Freedom means being allowed to be gay and gay married. Freedom means being able to chose whether or not to have an abortion. Freedom means being an immigrant and that being ok. Freedom means wearing your pants around your knees if that is what you want to do. Freedom means smoking, drinking, and drug use as long as you are not doing things that endanger others like driving while intoxicated.

    There are a lot of these things those freedom fighters would like to eliminate because they really were not about freedom at all.
     
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    It's different this time.

    Parkland changed things.

    You are losing
     
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    There are times in life when you know things you just cannot say, but you just have to be amused when certain people become chummy because like the alt right believing in trump you have no idea who you are agreeing with. You seem to do that a lot.
     
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    Like when Michelle Obama said she was never proud of America until Barack won the lottery.

    And most Americans shook their heads wondering if she forgot what the "Greatest Generation" did defeating Hitler, Italian fascist and Japan.

    If it weren't for the "Greatest Generation" like my father and seven uncles, Britain and the Soviets couldn't have defeated Germany and Japan would have gone uncontested in Asia and in the Pacific and the world would be a completely different place today.

    I'm proud of my father, my uncles, one who was killed in New Guinea (my mothers brother) the four who were wounded in Europe.
    Proud of the 10 million who served and the women who built the planes, guns and ships in the war plants and those back home who supported the war effort and lived during severe rationing.

    At least my fathers generation wasn't back stabbed on the battlefield by their peers like my generation was in Vietnam.

    So I don't like it when Michelle or those from the millennial snowflake generation badmouth their elders.
    These kids have no freaking idea what they are talking about.
    These are teenagers who actually refer to themselves as children.
    And it's more than obvious they are going to have big problems when they enter the real world.
     

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