NJ women’s prison inmates pregnant after sex with transgender

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ...Now we get to pay for the babies


    Two inmates serving time in New Jersey's only state prison for women became pregnant after they had sex with a transgender inmate, according to a report Wednesday.
    The unidentified jailbirds became pregnant at the Edna Mahan Correctional Facility after engaging in "consensual sexual relationships with another incarcerated person," the state Department of Corrections told NJ.com.

    https://nypost.com/2022/04/14/edna-...s-pregnant-after-sex-with-transgender-inmate/


    Just to let you all know, there are a lot of women in prison who are desperate to have sex... with almost anyone.

    Locked away and bored, without much to do all day. Some haven't had intimate access to a man for many years.

    Plus when you consider the type of women who often end up in prison...

    Getting pregnant by a transgender really isn't that inconceivable. Dozens of them may have been throwing themselves at him, desperate for anything with a penis.
     
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    Yet another example of a fantasy having real world consequences.

    Similar to trans women in women's sports, I think there will be some other real-world consequences that people didn't foresee at the beginning of this push to be whatever you want to be
     
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    Why didn't they put him in a prison for male criminals if he's still capable of making babies?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't seem to understand Progressivism very well. Haven't you been keeping up with the latest ideology? Telling a "trans woman" that they are not a woman because they can still get another woman pregnant is blasphemy.
     
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    Of course anyone could have predicted this would happen. Those living in an ideological fantasy world (that you can be whatever gender you want) don't want to think about inconvenient facts of reality.

    I see it in this forum all the time. Tell them something and they will just ignore it; or they will act like they are playing dumb and not be able to realize how that fact matters, as if their mind is incapable of making the mental connection.

    This ideology is almost like a fanatical religion. Their thinking process will refuse to let logic get in the way of what they are already certain "must" be true.
    They make up their own "truth", and don't care how ridiculously logical absurd it is. Just ignore the logical arguments that tell you you're wrong.

    The officials who run the prison just have to do what the governor and politicians tell them to do, if they want to keep their jobs and keep their career future on track.
     
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    So he's not a woman and does not belong in a women's prison. Justice should then make an exception and put him in a prison for males.
     
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    I have no idea how this could possibly have happened, because I'm not a biologist.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He says he's a woman. That's good enough for many people.

    Ask the politicians who made it a policy to put transgender women into women's prisons.
     
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    If you ask a progressive what the solution is to this, they'll probably tell you something like "Hand out condoms in the women's prison".


    Or Planned Parenthood will get a lucrative government contract behind prison walls.
     
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    The solution is to put them in a male prison unless they've had gender-affirming surgery for this practical reason.
     
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    The issue with that is I do not want any government policy passed that might push them towards surgical mutilation of their genitals.
    Treating them differently based on whether or not they have been surgically altered might very well create an incentive to getting that surgery.

    What about just requiring a vasectomy?
     
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    Maybe as an alternative that would be okay. But if they're truly, in their mind, transgender they want that procedure anyway. I suppose there are also non-binary people who claim attributes of both genders and just know a women's prison is safer. Regardless, they can't go into a women's prison with the ability to impregnate inmates. If you don't require the procedure, you also risk getting people who just claim to be transgender, but really just want to be in a women's prison. I don't think the vasectomy idea covers that group as well as requiring gender-affirming surgery.
     
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    Not all transgenders get the surgery down there. Some of them may be on the fence about it. I don't want there to be any government policy that might push them towards the decision to mutilate, or that could tip their decision in that direction.

    There are some of them that, while they may wish they had been born with different genitals, know that a surgery down there is very invasive and may likely not result in completely natural sexual function.
     
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    Well, some of them are obviously on gender-altering hormones and may have grown breasts or had their breasts removed.
    I think that partially answers the argument you are making here.

    There is no easy simple solution here.
     
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    Well to be fair, if I were facing heavy jail time, I would probably discover that deep down I'm a woman too. I don't blame the guy for trying that scam, I blame the justice system for entertaining it.
     
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    Correct, a trans should be full transition before being mixed with the sex they claim they are transitioning to.
     
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    Trans Women Knock Up Real Women in NJ Prison excerpt:

    Trans women are women, we’re told, and if you deny that, you could be banned permanently from Twitter, as was PJ Media’s Matt Margolis for the crime of noting that trans women aren’t women at all, but men. Nor is Twitter alone in enforcing this new woke orthodoxy: the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) recently fought for and won the right for twenty-seven convicts who claim to be women to be housed in an all-female prison in New Jersey. On Wednesday, however, in a heavy blow to the establishment narrative, it was announced that two genuinely female inmates of the same prison have gotten pregnant, and one or two of the trans women are responsible. It turns out trans women are men after all, and in New Jersey, there is absolute proof.​

    https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-...-prison-how-could-this-have-happened-n1589891
     
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    Many of them don't want to "fully" transition. What you are saying, many trans people would find very insulting.


    Oh, plus it is possible a transwoman could still produce sperm even though she has a vagina. What then?
     
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    What is the definition, or when is one considered, full transition? How does a trans woman with a vagina insert sperm into another woman?
     
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    Sometimes they might sow the balls up into her abdomen. This way she can still keep the balls and not have to give them up.

    There are many species of animals that don't have penises. You don't need a penis to be able to inseminate a woman, though of course it certainly helps.

    The inside reproductive system in a trans woman is not exactly the same as a regular woman. It's mostly just the exterior they change.

    In some very rare cases a trans woman might even choose to keep her balls, even though she has a new vagina.
     
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    Huh?
    Why would a trans woman sow balls into abdomen. They take hormones to reduce testosterone.

    And, with a vagina created, how does the trans release the sperm into another female?
     
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    Because once the balls are cut off, it's irreversible.

    There's always a small chance the trans may want to detransition someday in the future, though most of them do not think about that.

    It's pretty simple really. Remember, only the outside has changed. The inside reproductive system has not.

    It's the same exact way male animals impregnate a female in species that don't have a penis.

    It depends on the surgery, but in most "trans women" the reproductive system empties into their new vagina.
     
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