No Veto: UN Security Council Adopts Anti-settlement Resolution; U.S. Abstains

Fantastic. If I go back far enough I can trace my roots right back to little black Africans tens of thousands of years ago, running around the savannah.

 

Does the United Nations (of tyrants too) offer the so-called “Palestinians” the West Bank at 1967 borders, which was previously annexed by and the sovereignty of Jordan?

“The Palestine National Charter, adopted by the PNC, consisted of an introduction and 29 articles. The Charter defined Palestinians as those Arab citizens who were living in Palestine up to 1947, whether they remained or were expelled, as well as every child who was born to a Palestinian Arab father after this date. The Charter also considered Jews of Palestinian origin as Palestinians if they were willing to live peacefully and loyally in Palestine. It considered the partitioning of Palestine, which took place in 1947, and the establishment of Israel as illegal and null and void, regardless of the passage of time. The same position was also taken with regard to the Balfour Declaration and the Palestine Mandate System. The Charter also indicated that the organization did not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities were to be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields.” http://www.palestine-delegation.nl/background/

That was a threat to the sovereignty of Israel, one of the reasons for this:

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(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

Failure to comply with that in a timely manner, and to declare independence over what they did occupy at any given time, does not give a State with 1967 borders to the so-called “Palestinians.” The so-called “Palestinians” cannot annex all the West Bank; they don’t own it, yet. International law cannot annex the West Bank for proposed ethnic cleansing of Jews, and be recognized evermore as legitimate.

Israel made the State.

 

Yep, that word is 'bull(*)(*)(*)(*)'

 

Which has what to do with the mandate, Stuntman and Borat were discussing?

 

It states n the preamble, and according to your source, Oxford dictionary, a "national home" is an an autonomous or semi-autonomous state occupied by a particular people.

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Its a fact.that there was a continous existance of Jews in the Land of Israel.

 

Yes many of those Jews are now Palestinians. The world moves on people change religion it happens everywhere.

No there is nothing in the peramble.


Please refer to your own answer as to why State=Homeland is incorrect.

 

The mandate is as irrelevant to this as the Koran is to Torah being revealed and the two distinct Promised Lands.

The fact is that the Koran claims the Torah was revealed by God, and Torah clearly establishes that Palestine is the Promised Land of the Jews, and the Arabs have everything else from Egypt to the Euphrates; unless Allah is an Indian Giver and a LIAR, the land of Palestine belongs to the Jews (Israel); if we are going to include irrelevant things.

“[2.40] O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and be faithful to (your) covenant with Me, I will fulfill (My) covenant with you; and of Me, Me alone, should you be afraid.
[2.41] And believe in what I have revealed, verifying that which is with you, and be not the first to deny it, neither take a mean price in exchange for My communications; and Me, Me alone should you fear.
[2.42] And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it).
[2.43] And keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and bow down with those who bow down.”
“[2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.”

 

Best you find someone to discuss it with, I do not discuss fairy tales from religious books be it Muslim, Christian or Jew.

 

It states national home. National home is a state.As I showed you.

I never said that it's incorrect to say state = homeland, but it is your claim, which was shown it is not correct according to Oxford cidtionary, your source.

 

Religious claptrap and fairy tales the Brothers Grimm would be proud of.

 

Roswell Georgia, where gold was found, is in the homeland of the Cherokee, but not in their State. The first Democrat saw to that, it is why I have cousins in Oklahoma.

 

As irrelevant to international law as the mandate is now.

 

I am sure the British cared and when they promised the Jews their Homeland, they were fully aware that Homeland is defined as state in the English language and all English, American, Canadian, Australiandictionaries.

 

So then- the unelected Brit crone is playing footsie with Trump. Why do people consistently vote for these duplicitous and hypocritical sleazebags ? Oh wait- nobody ever voted for this one.

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No- it isn't. ' State ' is simply secondarily associated with ' homeland '. A ' state ' is an accepted political entity. Palestine is now both, of course.

 

It might be a ' fact ' in the minds of committed supporters of illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing- but it ain't a fact.
Besides, it doesn't matter whose cave was stolen or whose canoe paddled wherever first. Modern international and customary law - as defined by the United Nations- is the authority on national borders.

 

And according to the intetnational law, which is Article 80 of the UN Charter, the rights that were granted to the Jews over the and of Israel are still valid. Thus the Jews can settle anywhere in the Land of Israel, among other rights.

 

I refer you to Stuntmans answer, where he uses an excellent example of England being a homeland but not a state!

 

Please refer to your own answer in which you say England is a homeland for the English, to understand why Homeland=State is incorrect.

Is England a homeland? Yes.

Is England a State? No

 

Homeland is a state, according to the English language and all English dictionaries. Establishing a Jewish homeland is therefore establishing a Jewish state. Which was the understanding of the entire world in 1948, when the UN established a Jewish state in Palestine based on the mandate's recommendation to do just that.

 

Lol i don't need your referrals, i am fine with the Oxford dictionary defining homeland as a state and the overwhelming UNGA vote to establish a Jewish state in Palestine as prescribed by the mandate.

 

Yes it is always a source of amusement to me why Zionists want to claim they were promised a state when the were not. After all as you have pointed out you got a state in the end anyway. Maybe you just need to feel you got it by right rather than blood.

 

So now you are dismissing your own source, Oxford dictionary, which stated that homeland is an autonomous or semi-autonomous state occupied by a particular people?

 

The Mandate was never fulfilled, because it was intended to be fulfilled on the Land of Israel including the West Bank and excluding Trans-Jordan. According to Article 80 of the UN Charter, the Mandate needs to be fulfilled, and until then, nothing could alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments.

 

Ok what part do you not understand?

1. England is a homeland for the English.

2. England is not a state.

I am happy to help a non english speaker to understand but you need to work with me

 

Yes, Israel has borders which were delineated in 1947. Anywhere else is emphatically not the 'Land of Israel'. It would be a great idea if Israelis gave up the notion of lebensraum and stayed within those borders. 'God' promised nothing. There are no 'gods'.