Noah Was A King Of Sumer

And people thought that I talked bad about Science and education. LOL

 

From ancient clay tablets, archeological digs, Kings lists of Sumer and flood sediment.

 

You want to spew opinions with no facts

 

There are many ancient cities that were NEVER flooded.

 

More opinions no facts

 

Jericho, Tepe Gobekli, Uruk, Babylon, Catalhoyuk to name a few..

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The six oldest civilizations that had an ongoing and well-established culture according to recorded history are: Sumer (Mesopotamia), Egypt, China, Minoan, Indus Valley, and the Holy Land or Phoenicia.

Sumerian civilization in Mesopotamia. Its first dynasty, according to Sumerian


King-Lists, dates to about 3,350 B.C, King-Lists, and other records which show a continuous, ongoing civilization from 3,350 B.C. well through the period of the Flood.


Of all ancient civilizations, that of Egypt is the most familiar. Egypt's dynastic history started with the uniting of upper and lower Egypt by King Menes about 3,100 B.C. The period of Egyptian history known as the "Old Kingdom," extended from 2,800 to 2,175 B.C., which covered the third through the tenth dynasties.

There was no record of a sudden and complete interruption within this great epoch of Egyptian history by a great deluge.

Further, the Step Pyramid, the Great Pyramid, the Sphinx and other Egyptian monuments that were built prior to the Flood would surely have been destroyed by the magnitude of the flood described by creationists.

 

Is the writer of Joel's conception of "God's Spirit" the same as what is being written about in Ezekiel ?

In Joel a specific time is being talked about.

Afterward - After What ? This is a specific event not a general condition.

Second: This has nothing to do with being "reborn" through the ritual of baptism and an invoking of the Holy Spirit by humans. This is an acting instigated by God on all believers.

Third: I like this passage because it is more proof that the writings of Paul should be non-canonical. (Not that there is not enough proof with James and Peter denying the legitimacy of Paul)

Paul idea's about women do not conform to this passage.

 

Educated yourself and you will find out. "The Mind is a terrible thing to waste"

 

No links Means nothing. Why do you hide your sources?

 

There is only one "God's Spirit."

A specific event for their general condition.

Says you ? Spiritual baptism isn't a ritual, only water baptism is.

Paul had a much better grasp about the ancient world then any of us.

 

Ezekiel does not say "God's Spirit"

God saying "I am going to do something" - in this case sending out his Spirit to do specific things - is different than a human being claiming to be able to invoke the Holy Spirit.

God can "send out"/invoke the Holy Spirit - Humans can not.

Spiritual Baptism is something that God does, and he did this to those who were already believers.

Paul did not do this and neither does the pastor at your local church.

In passage from Jeol "women" were made prophets and this is something that Paul was completely against.

 

It is God speaking to Ezekial ...

Who said anything about "invoking" the Holy Spirit ?

I'm not arguing this point,never was.

 

I am not sure what your point is then ? If it is that God can send out his spirit, or a spirit, then I have no problem with that idea.

 

Continuous civilization in places such as China, Sumeria, Egypt, South America, Europe and so on is no secret.

Pick a time period where you think the flood happened and go read the history of any one of these locations and you will find contiuous civilization.

Give a time for the biblical flood and I wil give you links that show continuous civilization.

 

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Then why do you have a problem with people declaring that they have daily communications with the Holy Spirit? Your statement above contradicts previous statements you have made regarding the Holy Spirit. You claim that you are a Christian, yet you reject one of the major tenets of Christianity, then you want to flip flop on your statements regarding that tenet.

 

1) Direct communication on a daily basis with the Holy Spirit is not a "tenet" of Christianity.

2) I do not have a problem with folks declaring they have daily communication with the Holy Spirit, in fact I welcome it.

What I have a problem with is fraudsters that claim to speak with the Holy Spirit but then can not answer simple question in relation to the Bible.

 

Then I suppose that the instruction to "pray without ceasing" is also not a tenet of Christianity.
"1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit. "

For what purpose do you "welcome it"? So that you can accuse someone of blasphemy?

If, you are referring to me as one of those fraudsters, then bear in mind, that the questions were answered; you were given instructions; and you have failed to abide by or execute those instructions. Keep the facts straight.

 

I will not do your research. Show proof. Margot refuses to show resources which tells me the source must not be credible.

 

That statement shows you do not understand what Christianity is about

 

My point is that you are born with a human,dying spirit (flesh is flesh) and that unless you are "born again" with this "Spirit of God," you will not reach salvation on your own. (Kingdom of God)

Jesus never said you had to die for a spiritual rebirth. Flesh is flesh means that you were born with your own soul/spirit. The redeeming quality of God pouring out his Spirit is your revival and eternal life force.

 

The flood was in 2900 BC based on the flood sediment, the King's list of Sumer and the hundreds of clay tablets that describe the event.

And, the city of Shuruppak has been excavated with its grain silos.

 

So what. That is no proof of anything. What was it Einstein said about the mathematics in relation to reality. "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality." I do believe Mr Einstein was a more prominent mathematician than your pseudo-scholars who made up such things as AD and BC and calendars and periodic table of elements.... Mathematics do not refer to such things, if such things are a part of 'reality'.

 

I did not ask you to do any research. All I asked is for you to state when you think the flood happened. I can pick a date for you if you wish.

As soon as we agree on a date then I will show you, with links, continuous civilization.