Occupy Wall Street: Too Big to Ignore

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    I am so glad that the American people are finally voicing there disapproval of being run by bankers in wall street.

    And since Julia Swan and Bob are all in bed with the IMF who by the way are run by wall street, Australia is heading down the same street.

    The carbon tax is but the start.

    Yes once the people rise the news does have to cover it and it does get the presidents attention.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFLmDKs4MK4"]Occupy Wall Street: Too Big to Ignore - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Worldwide Protest For Democracy
    Saturday 15 October 2011



    *** OccupyWallStreet *** OccupyTheFed *** OccupyEverywhere ***

    OCCUPYAUSTRALIA


    We Are Anonymous
    We Are Legion
    We Are Many Divided By Zero
    We Do Not Forgive
    We Do Not Forget
    Expect Us
     
  3. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Hey guys

    Why doesn't the main stream media here in Australia cover this event?

    Is it because the business moguels wont allow it?

    Pity the poor journalist who wouldn't mind doing the story.
     
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    SiliconMagician Banned

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    ^^^^

    You see, this is the kind of anarchist revoultionary bull (*)(*)(*)(*) that keeps me from supporting this movement. You think I want to associate myself with hackers, hippies and socialists angry because the world doesn't work they way their twisted and warped sense of reality says it should?

    All these ignorant people think that if you just complain enough, tear up enough stuff, or aggravate people and keep them from getting to work that suddenly the world is going to change? You think the IMF is going to just shut down? You think the entire Global market and monetary system that has been built OVER A CENTURY is just going to collapse because a few naive fools who have NO ECONOMIC KNOWLEDGE whatsoever can just "make it so" by their will alone?

    Who's going to loan you the money to start a business with no banks? Who is going to make home loans with no banks?

    Without Globalisation and the Global Monetary System we'd all be living in animal skins and subsistance farming.

    As far as the above message goes.. bring it on (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s! I'm sick of all this talk.. talk talk talk talk.. Little puppies barking.

    Bring on the world revolution so I can pick my side, erect teh barricades and start busting some socialist heads.
     
  5. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Hey SM your ship is headed to the bottom of the sea, i think it will be sooner rather than later.

    I feel sorry for the American people, but not for those in power and the business moguels.

    And the one thing that i'm spewing about is my supper because when the US dollar goes under so will my super.:omg:
     
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    Where do people keep coming up with this crap that the US is suddenly going to collapse?

    Why isn't it worldwide news? Why isn't it all over the Wall Street Journa, LA TImes, NYT, etc? let me guess.. it's all being hidden by a giant conspiracy?

    It seems like these days, the best way people deal with stuff that they can't understand, is assign a conspiracy to it.

    The US isn't going to collapse because if it did, it would mean the collapse of all of Western Civilization with it.
     
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    Hey SM

    Maybe Max and Stacey will help you see the light.

    There are about 80 episodes have a look on the utube.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JJ9AgJkxZo"]Max Kieser.12apr11.Central bank murder.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    SiliconMagician Banned

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    you see, this is a prime example of what I'm talking about when I say that internet is screwing up people's ideology and making them radical.

    I'm not content to sit around and watch some home made propaganda vids.. I want a scientifically based white paper, written by real economists, peer-reviewed by real economists, and published in a reliable and peer-reviewed journal.

    Should I see such a white paper, or series of whitepapers.. then I might take it seriously.
     
  9. Anonymous_33

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    Wow, SM, talk about jump to conclusions, then argue for them being true. That is the sign of an ignoramas.

    1. I am not a hippie
    2. I am not an anarchist
    3. I am not a hacker

    I am however
    1. Very very angry
    2. A Patriot & Constitutionalist
    3. Self-Employed

    It isn't until people find themselves in the grip of the legal system, when they know they are absolutely and unequivocally ethically and morally right, that the unfairness and stupidity of the system makes itself apparent. It is too easy for people to stay in their comfort zones. It's not until you get bumped out of your comfort zone that you are actually going to give a sh*t. You are obviously still in your comfort zone. So I ask, why are you on this forum? Why not go watch football, and just pretend everything is all okay, its not really happening, go concentrate on a footballers knee and you'll be right mate. If you do care about the Constitution, if you are a Patriot, then tell me, what are you doing to help bring about change. If the answer is "... nothing, I'm just shooting my mouth off", then go shoot your mouth off at a football game and get off this forum. As for the Protest, it must be peaceful, because we must restore law and order using law and order. Violence just feeds into the system and gives them an excuse to tighten laws. Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd have been charged with treason, but no further action can be taken until the judiciary indict them.

    It will take time to unravel all the stupid laws, so I know it won't happen overnight. However, what we must do to start the process is to get them arrested and indicted for crimes against the Australian people, and then get the Constitution restored, and hopefully replaced with a better one written by the people for the people, that does not allow for amendments.

    Now as for "real" economists and the news. Are you aware that Sean Hoare, Murdoch hacking scandal whistleblower was murdered? You know that Julia Gillard will not investage bias in the media, therefore will not investigate Murdoch. This smacks of bias, corruption and secrecy. Now why do you think that might be? They don't want you to know what and how they are changing laws, so they want to keep you entertained with video games, football and television.

    For the people who like to see what's going on, the ABC report only bare facts and will often leave information out, or twist their language to confuse. There is no questioning on official stories. The mainstream media is a propaganda machine that would make Geobells proud. Questions are very tame and answers are pre-determined, and can often consist entirely of rhetoric. They put on Economists who toe the party line, not Economists who are going to tell it how it is. These type of Economists are called "Physical Economists", like Lyndon La Rouche and Max Keiser. Max Keiser has a segment on Russia Today (RT News). RT News are not imbedded like other news reporters in places like Libya, and their studio was bombed by the NATO because they didn't like them telling the truth. They were called about ten minutes before and told to leave the building.

    As for lending money for loans, what's the point in engaging in this fraudulent activity of "home ownership" or "investment property" when in Queensland you only have statutory rights to the property title, which is owned by the State of Queensland Corportion/Brigalow Corporation?

    As for banks, Australia had a Federally owned National Bank by the name of the Commonwealth Bank, and they sold it off to private banks without a referendum. Australia has given away its right to print money. Until you understand how the Constitution has been bastardized, and until you understand that we have lost real democracy, you will remain ignorant. Ignorance can be forgiven, but arrogance just means you're stupid. So, are you ignorant of the facts, or are you arrogant, despite the facts?

    England has lost its democracy and is staying in the EU. We are an EU outpost. As an EU outpost five of every six laws are given to us by a foreign power and these are called DIRECTIVES. This is a Hitlerian, Fascist Dictatorship.

    When are you going to wake up? Probably only when they hit the Internet kill switch, and you can't use your computer, your ipad, your iphone etc, will you realise that we are right.
     
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    Who is real, who is not?
    Who is the puppet, the patsy, the mole?
    Who is the ASIO agent?
    Who has the university degree?
    Who has the job?
    Who hires, who fires, and why?
    Who decides who is your peer?
    Who decides you aren't good enough?
    Who pays for advertising?
    Who pays political donations?
    Who owns the journal, the newspapers, the media?
    Who controls the money?
    Who controls the laws?
    Who is behind the assassination of dissenters?

    Science is science because it is TESTED. Gravity is gravity. You need only drop something to see its force. Since when did getting your mate to agree with you become scientifically tested FACT, that gravity is now weightlessness because the two blokes who are peers, hired and paid for the same people who pay political donations, said so?

    When ... when there is money to be made, that's when. The Carbon Tax is a lie.

    Always follow the trial of money, it cannot lie, but it can try to confuse.
     
  11. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    WOW Anonymous_33 well said dude i agree 100%.

    Hey SM

    The bankers manipulate all the economies of the world dude, the sooner you realise this the better for you.

    Its more than likely that this white bit of paper yout so willing to believe from an economist will be written with the interest of banks in mind since the economist will probably most likely be working for them.

    Just like Al Gore and his climate change crusade all sponsored by Goldman Sachs and other banks.

    You think banks are interested in cleaning up the environment?

    OR

    Gathering the peoples money?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The movement will continue to grow and garner support of not only working class but those with strong moral fiber and character as well. I believe it will be the America of the future we are seeing and truthfully I welcome it; at this point anything is better then allowing corporations to essentially control our daily lives.
     
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    Democracy? Oh ok. That's what this is all about? Too funny.

    I like our Republic...thanks.
     
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    Yeah! Cause this is great for our country! Nice way to get your message heard. But, the tea party...those people are just disgusting!

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/media-see-the-moment-the-friday-protests-turned-violent-in-nyc/


    This will not end well I'm afraid.
     
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    Just a recommendation, when you post, differentiate between normal banks and central banks. Banking as a whole is an industry that provides society a service. It is central banks manipulating national currencies that is the problem. If you aren't specific, there are people who will jump all over that unspecified portion of your post to dodge the main message, or to trivialize it.
     
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    That all describes me as well.

    So true, and well said. Everything you wrote here sounds like you were describing my country, but you're talking about Australia. Amazing. See how interconnected this all is?
     
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    And who's rights were they infringing on? What did the tea party do? Can you answer that? It's just A-OK with you that these people are though, isn't it? Since freakin when did NYC become a KOA camp ground? These people who live and work in NYC have rights too, don't they?
     
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    What on earth are you talking about??? I never condemned tea partiers for protesting; I think likewise the protesters in NYC and elsewhere have a perfect right to express their views as well. Just that i think the OWS are correct in their views.

    If there was any percieved threat to the public or health issues, the city would have them move from where they are.
     
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    And I ask...what views would they be? And WHY can't they just protest with dignity like the tea party did/does? Why on earth would you support this shanty town way of protesting, no matter who it it? I have no problem with protesting either, but this way....is just flat out wrong!
     
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    Because one of the rights the constitution gives us is the right to protest in our own way; excepting violence of course. And if they or anyother group commit violence, then they are subject to arrest and prosecution just like anyone else.

    You don't have to support nor agree with their way of protesting, that is your right, but as long as its protected by the US Constitution, there can be no rational arguement against it. Thats the point i'm trying to make.
     
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    No. The constitution doesn't guarantee a person the right to do anything they like as long as they call it a protest (even if it's non-violent). It's quite a reasonable argument that these folks have a right to organize and express themselves, but not the right to live rent free on someone else's property indefinitely and without regard to basic sanitation.
     
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    Are you going to answer the question or not? What the the views that OWS have that are correct and that you agree with? And NO I do not believe anyone has the right to protest in such away that they infrige on other people's right. Ok maybe for a day possibly, but certainly not for a month.

    It's just a party down there....you know it and I know it. Quit the BS.
     
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    Rebels without a cause, or a bathroom apparently. I hear some have crapped on police cars.
     
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    My answer is just this; I take no position either way nor have any views on OWS; only that they have a right to gather and protest all they want.
     

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