Old, White and in Trouble, Poll says

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  1. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've been saying this for months ... The Demographics are NOT on the side of Republicans and it will only get worse ... and faster over the next year.

    The Good News is ... Younger, more educated Voters are becoming more prevalent and making thier own choices based on the world they are currently living in and not the world their Parents and Grandparents lived in.

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    I immediately thought of NEWT GINGRICH on Greta last night.

    15 minutes of un questioned political spin..

    Never a forced rebuttal to reality that he is losing Huge.

    Offering $2.50 gas to the "sheep " is no different than offering to pay for college loans from Obama.

    Quoting History as a message to continue looking back to see forward is just stupid.

    Newt is the REASON the democrats had a surge in popularity.
    He had the same back room ..closed buddy deals all the time..he failed in transparency..other than the fact he attacked everybody equally at the end.

    The happy newt ? :no:

    That was 30 years ago..kids and most younger independents dont want to back to that garbage.

    Fast forward to the modern day political numbers..

    ROMNEY is destroying his opponents with those who have college and post college education ..People who have a good paying job are supporting Romney for a reason..they understand the economy better than the low life of any race and gender who thinks that those who are successful MUST HAVE CHEATED.
    Those less successful people feel cheated..and now vote either to support a NANNY state so they wont need to do anything..or against anyone who has been successful.

    I am speaking in broad terms but I think exit polls generally support me..
    The poor .. regardless of party ..gender or race are generally suspicious of wealth..maybe envy..but a lot of anger..

    As if they were left behind for a reason.
    Romney and the Republicans need to do a better job showing the other side does't give a rip about them after the vote.

    Frame the argument a great economy is great for them too.
    Cheaper gas means less cost of all products and services they need to buy.
    A strong military supports and defends them also.
    ( Obama has started shrinking the military..while Romney will increase and keep it strong )

    More jobs means a better life for everyone..not just the Rich..but the middle class and poor.

    Just extending un employment benefits for 2-4 years is not fixing the unemployed..
    That is a failure.... :bye:
     
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    Now hold on..

    Nobody today really knows what conservatism or Republicans are about.. Its tainted by neo con ambitions, and religious extremism that leans towards the Rapture.

    Look at the candidates .........

    Educated "republicans" have become democrats or independents.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a problem with the white part , it should not be matter
     
  5. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't get me wrong ... some of my best friends are White (Oh my God ... did I just say that? wait until I tell them they are White).
     
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    AMEN BROTHER..

    Neither should religion..

    After the election will Santorum or Obama Pray us to a better economy ?
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember; try to “think” why Politicians run for Government Offices.

    They certainly don’t Run for Government Offices because they dislike Government and what to dismantle it. They Run for Government Offices, or should Government Offices, to reform it and make it work better.

    Example: Defense Spending.

    It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt … the Smart works far better that Volume. We have the imperial evidence to back that claim up! There’s really no need to send several fleets of B52 Bombers and hundreds of thousands of troops when you can send 1 Drown or 15 Marines to get 1 Guy!

    We have the evidence that smarter is better … way cheaper and infinitely safer!


    NO … being Smart is NOT Snobbish … it’s just Smart!
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what ... you're right it shouldn't ... but I'm not White, so why don't you tell me why the Demographics are what they are.
     
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    LOLOL..

    I am just saying that the notion of who is a Republican these days is very blurry..

    Its devoid of critical thinking regarding the issues we face.

    Its jingoism... or tangents into birth control and abortion or gay civil rights.. Issues that have long been settled in the US.
     
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    Well you're right about that.

    I thought Herman Cain was a hoot and him being Black or Conservative had nothing to do with him being a hoot.
     
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    Ultimately the Republicans will have to move further to the centre to get more of the popular vote. Get ready for a socialist democracy. Demographics is undeniable.
     
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    You' re oriental ??
    I would never have guessed :smile:

    Next you'll say you like camp fires and smores..
    and Baseball.

    We start small on things we AGREE ON and expand.

    and by the way..For a fun thought...

    Romney has never accepted any pay for government work.
    He actually doesn't need to stay elected for a power grab or money..
    I wonder if Obama can say the same ?? ..or newt..Paul..Santorum.. Perry is already doubly dipping the tax payers.

    One has to ask what Paul is in it for.. ?
    The travel and great vacation ?
     
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    Don't say it ...

    Don't say that nasty word ...

    Compromise


    Remember ... Ronald Regan compromised.
     
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    Democrats only compromise before they get creamed..

    see ya..:bye:
     
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    Actually I'm Black and I like Grits ... and unlike Mitt, I know how to Cook my own.

    The President "choose" his profession ... somewhere ... in the Conservative Movement, Community Organizer became a dirty word. Considering their narrow view of Americans, it's not surprising their demographics are going the way of the Dinosaur.

    Maybe The President can teach The GOP a thing or two about Organization and Community!
     
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    Do you ever put a few ounces of milk in your grits water?

    I didn't know you were black.. but then I tend to measure people from the neck up rather than on pigment. 8)
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... and Sugar and Butter .. .but don't tell my Wife that.
     
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    Funny I am white ..Old..and I hate Grits..but bar b que is better down south.

    Romney is trained in Morality..FACT..you may not like his school but he is at the top of his class.
    Romney is trained as THE business guy..Graduated at the top of his class..FACT..and is most successful with business practices of compromise and sales..If he doesn't balance his bottom line,he cant go community organizing for donations.. Neither can Obama at this level...

    Obama mania worked once..and then is fizzling...like our nations debt.
    He must divide and conquer//instead of unite and rebound...
    He must attack others as non compromising while he had unlimited power for 2 years and did nada...except pass a bad HC law.

    He had control of congress and they failed to pass any budget.
    he lost control for that reason..now the job is to replace what's broken..that's Obama and the democrats..NOT AMERICA.
     
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    Good grief... NOT sugar.

    Are you from Virginia?
     
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    Sugar goes in SWEET TEA..not grits.

    up north we call that oatmeal with brown sugar...mmmmm
     
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    Not exactly.. Mitt didn't save any companies (like Huntsman).. Mitt sold off divisions and assets.. known as pump and dump... which is an accounting trick... widely practiced in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

    He downsized and resized..
     
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    I haven't come across a White guy yet who can Barbeque better then me ... but if you're Barbequing I'll be the tester.

    Mitt has been failing at Elections for along time ... I'm guessing this loss will be his last. Maybe Matt .. who thinks Obama is great will take over the family business.

    President Obama's first mistake, was trying to bring the GOP together for compromise ... they are in office to do one thing .. defeat him.
     
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    And what is Obama doing with the Marine Corps right now ?
    And the Air Force ?

    The Romney business model is widely know to be different than what you suggest. It however can be characterized as ultimately SUCCESSFUL.

    Unlike President Obama's economy.:boo:
     
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    He was failing against a KENNEDY in MASS.
    I doubt he would have failed in UTAH..or Idaho.

    The best BB QUE is in Texas..on hwy 59 TOMMY'S !
    That ol Black fool can COOK.. I drive 200 miles out of my way just to eat there..

    President Obama had no Republicans opposing his agenda in his 1st 2 years..

    I burn meat on a grill..but for some reason everybody likes my FISH cookin best, Even my KY family..I dont serve GRITS..
     
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    Lord you are such a hypocrite. Back on this link: http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/238623-obama-drastic-fall-polls-show-his-reelection-douibtfull.html your exact words were "Polls Polls Polls ... what's in a Poll?" and like I replied then I will reply again that you a hypocrite...any time you can find any poll that shows Obama inches up one centimeter you post it. Troll is too good a word for you...you have been exposed yet again as being a liar!
     

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