On abortion, I say let's go with what we know.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    WHERE T F would you want to put abortion clinics?

    HEY, how about WHERE WOMEN NEED AND USE THEM !!!


    BRILLIANT...and DUHHHHHHHHH ...it makes sense!!!!!!


    Want to bring up the Nazis (since you have no good argument) ???


    Well, they believe in FORCED sterilization and Anti-Choicers believe in FORCED gestation....

    FORCE and destruction of rights.., what both faction believe in


    I see a bunch of hyperbole couldn't hide the FACT that you couldn't address my post..


    WHERE T F would you want to put abortion clinics?

    In a wealthy neighborhood??


    WHY would you want to do that?

    :) So you don't have a serious answer...



    NO ,I NEVER DID AND YOU WILL PRODUCE NO PROOF THAT I DID




    :) Just more silly hyperbole to hide the FACT that you CANNOT answer my question:
    WHERE T F would you want to put abortion clinics?

    HEY, how about WHERE WOMEN NEED AND USE THEM !!!


    BRILLIANT...and DUHHHHHHHHH ...it makes sense!!!!!!


    Want to bring up the Nazis (since you have no good argument) ???


    Well, they believe in FORCED sterilization and Anti-Choicers believe in FORCED gestation....

    FORCE and destruction of rights.., what both faction believe in


    I see a bunch of hyperbole couldn't hide the FACT that you couldn't address my post..


    WHERE T F would you want to put abortion clinics?

    In a wealthy neighborhood??


    WHY would you want to do that?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    The KKK was revived by the patron saint of progressivism, Woodrow Wilson. Yep. The same raging racist who segregated the Civil Service.
    Robert Byrd still stands proudly in the Capitol Rotunda. Democrats named the Senate Office Bldg after racist Richard Russell.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    BTW. Can you name a Republican Senator or Supreme Court Justice nominated by a Republican President to prove your point that the militant arm of the Democrat Party was taken over by Republicans?
     
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    Who cares ........ the KKK has nothing to do with the abortion issue .. other than these folks tend to be anti abortion .. being mostly red and all ..and religious right.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never said anything about some militant arm of Dems being taken over by Red. What is a fact is that Red took over the KKK Torch decades ago ....

    but, at the end of the day .. equivocating either party with being dominated by the KKK is moronic idiocy ... and so when we say "took over" what is meant is that the majority of the KKK are now on the right .. but this is a very small number . not representative of either party .. and who cares what side these morons call themselves ..
     
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    Bull
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    Now that was an enlightening response ..
    https://www.readex.com/readex-repor...ligion-and-rise-second-ku-klux-klan-1915-1922

    So you see .. the religious right and the clan go hand in hand .. provided you are the right kind of Religion .. as these folks were also anti Semite and Anti Catholic ..
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Being Jewish, I am very sensitive to the history of anti-Semitism in this country. I do know that Breckinridge and FDR conspired to deny Jews asylum by cooking the books. They were responsible for millions of deaths. FDR also refused to allow the MS St Louis with 900 Jews on board from docking. 555 were killed by the Nazis when they were forced to return to Germany.

    My grandfather came to the US at age 17 in 1913. He was successful enough that he could have brought his family, my Great Grandparents, Great Aunt and Great Uncle, here b4 they were murdered by the Nazis. I know what happened.

    My first real job was in Lynchburg, VA, home of Jerry Falwell and Liberty Baptist. The religious right was never anything but gracious, though they wanted to save me.

    I'm sure Socialists blame the internment of Japanese Americans on Republicans just like they project their part in the genocide of Jews on Republicans.
     
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    Interesting .. but doesn't change reality --- and this is irrelevant anyway .. having ZERO to do with abortion or eugenics .. Eugenics being the most ridiculously preposterous of your claims .. now knowing your background .. a lack of understanding of which you should be really embarassed .. like .. Seriously dude .. a Jew who doesn't know what Eugenics is -- using the term way improperly .. come on.
     
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    Nice try.

    The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics
    Historians/History

    Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a co-called "Master Race."

    But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

    Eugenics was the racist pseudoscience determined to wipe away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in twenty-seven states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning.
    https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1796
     
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    I am not a Jew .. but know their history better than you ..meaning .. the entire history .. from Abe on down .. and our Loving God El .. And Zedek prince of Peace - arbiter of Justice... and that Canaanites were semites too :)

    The religious right are generally nice people .. had plenty of Churching in my day .. baptized twice :) .. both Rabbi Hillel .. Famous Teacher of Jesus .. and Jesus .. as do did not condone political involvement on the basis of religious belief .. nor did Confucius or Buddha for that matter .. and that is my issue with the religious right .. Abortion being a prime example .

    On the matter of Eugenics .. Took 3rd year Sociology course .. "nature nurture debate" was name of course .. so rather well versed in those arguments .. know what they mean and stuff .. Had Adolf been following the tenets of that particular ideology .. he would have put Jews in High places ... as per demonstraged genetic superiority (from the Social Darwinist Perspective - that which Trump held ...

    Adolf added a few things .. twisted this and that and used propaganda to promote his agenda .. needed and internal enemy ..someone to blame for Germanies woes .. Jews were a perfect target .. these movements need some kind of black vs white paradigm .. good vs evil "God vs Devil" if there is a religious element. ..
     
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    The Vatican gave Adolph the perfect scapegoat and launched his own fear mongering campaign to beef it up, but there is difference between the 'End' and the 'Means' toward that end. For radicals and other varieties of fascists, the End justifies the Means. Jews were not Aryans and they were an easy target, so they became the major, but not the only targets of the Nazis.

    This is terrible --- Margaret's team
     
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    Well aware of the forced sterilization program in the US and Canada.. of the "genetically unfit" - before WWII .. anyone who was anyone in North America/Europe was on the Eugenic bandwagon... was hugely popular ideology .. especially among the elite .. the ideology justifying existing power structure and hierarchy in society. Hitler did not just pop up out of a vaccum .. he - like Trump in many ways - was a symptom of the times.

    When the masses become complacent - and opportunity for increased power due to this complacency arises .. someone is going to take it - take advantage of it .. "Sucker born every minute"

    Are seeing the same thing .. right here - right now. Look at the way the "Hierarchy" is taking advantage of Covid .. using propaganda to its full extent .. Read the other day that 70% of the sheep now favor a vax mandate.. for a Vax that has now been proven not to prevent transmission - on the basis that the unvaxed are some risk of harm over that of the vaxed.

    When you take a certain group "the unvaxed in this case" and demonize them with lies and propaganda - It works. How is the mandate any different than making some group wear a yellow star .. taking their livelihoods away - demonizing them.. this is exactly what that is ..
     

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