Oprah : People Hate Obama & Me Because We’re Black>>>MOD WARNING<<<

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  1. Doc Dred

    Doc Dred Banned

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    Both of you got to be kidding.
    tax dollars spent in the USof A

    http://useconomy.about.com/od/fiscalpolicy/tp/US_Federal_Budget.htm


    Social Security costs are currently 100% covered by payroll taxes

    Medicare is already underfunded. Medicare taxes don't pay for all benefits, so this program relies on general tax dollars to pay for a portion of it.


    I don't care for this inane passage of time wasted by reading SMW demanding that Obama is some sort of socialist. Lost in a flurry of philosophical agenda comments.
    I'm yet to read a factoid from SMW that actual proves this philosophy she so vehemently demands of the forum readers to comply with.

    in any case the thread is being derailed due to this flurry of philosophical agenda comments.

    Black people have earned the right to be cautious and see hate rallied against them on so many levels in the USofA.

    one should not just fluff this off to the side of paranoia.
     
  2. bomac

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    Not sure what you mean. Congress borrowed all those payroll taxes. And today's payroll taxes do not pay for all of the SS payments. We need to fix that and it can be done without lessening benefits.

    You know what we did in the past - we fixed it. And we can today. Obama stopped the overpayment to insurers on their Medicare Advantage plans and increased fraud investigations. There are other solutions out there that can improve the situation without lessening the benefits.

    Agree. I have commented that ever thread veers off into a hate rant on Obama.

    I keep asking posters to return to the original topic. I believe that, since the OP has been proven to be a lie, the right can't defend it anymore.

    It is about disrespect whether from hate or being black.
     
  3. stjames1_53

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    the fact that he is a Chicago thug , who couldn't run a buggy race has nothing to do with it? it isn't his color, it is him...........he's a freakin sham......a snake oil salesman. a socialist..oopsy, I forgot some socialist think he can walk on water and then change it into wine.......
     
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    Maybe things will turnaround when we get another cowardly, draft dodging, conservative Pres. who sends your son off to war.
     
  5. misterveritis

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    "Do you believe that governments confiscating ever greater percentages of its productive citizens' labor (since that is what our incomes represent) will increase the nation's wealth or diminish it? If you believe it will increase the nation's wealth explain your answer."
    Marxism is strong in this one. Kill it while it is young. When it grows old it will rip the nation apart.

    The right answer is that taxes are collected to pay to do the things that the government is required to do based on its enumerated powers.
     
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    "If you don't think you are taxed too much what is stopping you from writing a check to Uncle Sugar? Why would I care how much other countries are taxed?"

    Do you believe that governments confiscating ever greater percentages of its productive citizens' labor (since that is what our incomes represent) will increase the nation's wealth or diminish it? If you believe it will increase the nation's wealth explain your answer.

    I believe you know how wrong you are. That is why you dodge instead of answering my reasonable questions.
    What percentage of my wealth should government allow me to keep Jonsa? As a follow up do you believe you should be able to keep a different percentage than I am allowed to keep? How strongly do you believe in Radical Karl's primary philosophical point?

    "Do you believe that governments confiscating ever greater percentages of its productive citizens' labor (since that is what our incomes represent) will increase the nation's wealth or diminish it? If you believe it will increase the nation's wealth explain your answer."

    Explain why you believe this is responsive. You do know it is not, don't you? Other that the Interstate highway system which of those do you believe are constitutional?

    "Caring about the less fortunate is not the government's job. That is also not one of its enumerated powers."

    You have the heart of a tyrant. Understood. Government has no direct role. It has an indirect role of providing for the general welfare by establishing and executing good laws. That is is.

    "Caring about the less fortunate is not the government's job. That is also not one of its enumerated powers."

    See above. Tyrant.

    "And why did you fail to answer my reasonable questions. I will break them into two distinct lines so you can see them better.

    "If you don't think you are taxed too much what is stopping you from writing a check to Uncle Sugar?"

    And you are a fraud.
     
  7. misterveritis

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    "Caring for the children is not the government's job. That is not one of its enumerated powers.
    Caring about the less fortunate is not the government's job. That is also not one of its enumerated powers."

    Here they are. Show me which one you believe makes caring for the children a federal obligation.

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

    To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

    To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

    To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.​
     
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    I couldn't help it.

    [video=youtube;C2cMG33mWVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY[/video]
     
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    ya mean like Obama?
    Dude, there hasn't been one generation in America that hasn't had a war to fight. Think we should just surrender America to who ever wants it?
    I did notice that you failed to acknowledge that Maobama could walk on water..........
    why wasn't the word "racist" in your reply? That is one of the Libs favorite word.
     
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    Without delving into specific politics people hate Obama because he is a politician , politicians and bankers are the worst of us .
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    Whaaaa? You left out lawyers (which most politicians are).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Nah, you forget that Obama is never responsible for anything his administration does. After all, he only hears about what happens on the news after the fact you know.
     
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    heard a rumor that he gets his news from Letterman....................
     
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    He is smarter than that. He probably gets his news from Jon Stewart like most liberals do.
     
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    I don't like the color purple. I guess I'm a racist.
     
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    racist!!!!!! absolutely detestable I bet you don't like mauve, either...........:roflol:
     
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    If I say that I don't like mauve, would that mean I hate bi-racial people too?
     
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    :tp: let me consult the Lib Handbook of Insults and Racial Profilers
     
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    Again, Asians come here and don't cause crime. Don't live off the taxes of working people. And don't try and use government to force themselves on others.

    This is why Asians have a higher standard of living than even white Americans, and why you don't see a lot of hatred towards Asians.

    When other minorities do the same, they will not have to worry about "earning the right to be cautious".

    Social Security is only paying for itself through payroll taxes for today's expenses. But every Ponzi scheme works perfectly until you run out of people to take money from.

    http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/

    Bottom line..... All aspects of the socialist system are in a state of decay, toward failure. Disability Insurance is going broke. Social Security is going broke. Hospital Insurance is going broke. And Medicare is going broke.

    Socialism ALWAYS fails. It's failing for us, just as it has failed for everyone everywhere, that has ever tried it.
     
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    Actually, my banker has done very well by me. Can't complain about the service at all. Politicians... yeah. Especially the socialist kind. Very much the worst of us.
     
  21. Doc Dred

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    as for the rest of your post&#8230;it's not really up to me to prescribe treatment for people.

    But where you come off using my post to do some diatribe about asians &#8230;i dunno&#8230;.

    now you can get on your high horse about me being some sort of racist&#8230;.you just went asian wacky on my post&#8230;


    in eastern Canada and BC&#8230;Asians make up the vast majority of criminal inmates in our penitentiary system.

    the prairies are filled with Native peoples&#8230;that i think is mostly due to the war our police force has with them&#8230;some sort of prejudice thang.
     
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    Hi!
    No.

    The overwhelming majority of Asians incarcerated in Canada are for illegal immigration laughably enough.

    http://www.internetjournalofcrimino... Diversity and Criminal Justice in Canada.pdf
     
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    REALLY???
    me buds inside tell me it's due to meth labs and grow ups and various underworld activities.

    I really don;t think illegal aliens get incarcerated in the heavy pens here in Canada.

    Me black friends when i talk to them about this&#8230;they always say Blacks are the numba one population &#8230;

    now as for toronto stabbings, and gun violence,,,yup mostly Jamaican drug violence related &#8230;
     
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    Get better informed buds.

    http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/pblct/ronwiebe/8-eng.shtml

    Asians are overrepresented per-capita for drug crimes, but most are there on immigration issues. You used to have a real open arms sort of policy... after 9/11 you agreed to not allow that to continue.

    This is a distraction (why they are there). It was your position that they are overrepresented, and like every western country, they are the least represented... and blacks are grossly overrepresented...

    This is your discussion with another poster. I just dropped in to tell you that you are wrong.
     
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    Another country where blacks make 3x the prison propulation compared to the general population? How can this be? I was assured that blacks don't actually commit crimes more often then whites.
     

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