Over 200 Nigerian School Girls abducted by militant group Boko Haram.

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  1. Pasithea

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    An estimated 234 Nigerian school girls have been kidnapped directly from their school by a militant group called Boko Haram, a name which literally means, "Western education is forbidden".

    This is completely insane. And why did they take only girls and not boys (are they only targeting girls? Did they just happen to come across a girl only school)? Some of the girls managed to escape and they claim the men are selling the girls for 2000 naira, or $12 US dollars, to the militant men as brides. This has not yet been confirmed though.

    Their government has been completely wishy washy on it too first stating all the girls had been released, then that only 100 or so girls were kidnapped and just blatantly lying to these families left and right.

    All this does is remind me how much of the impoverished and third country world still views women as mere objects meant to be bought and sold and that they shouldn't be educated. It reminds me how much of the world still needs to progress when it comes to women's civil rights as human beings.

    I can only hope all the girls are rescued and safely returned to their families, but I already know the worst will happen...

    I get so angry and frustrated reading stories like these. The world around us falls to pieces and we go about our daily lives like nothing bad ever happened. It angers me that as women we are so physically weak and cannot defend ourselves from radical extremist males like these as well. I just hate it and I wish there was more I could do.

    http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/fury-grows-over-nigerian-kidnapping
     
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    Islamists do not accept "Western" education.

    You deliver the explanation yourself. Most likely they want to sell them.

    I would not be surprised if you finde the Nigerian government mixed up with Islamism. When it gets out of control, they surely want to play down the problem.

    Many societies are sunk in archaic traditions and an extreme form of religous fanatism.

    I am not sure. The question will be, is Nigeria going to pay for these hostages? A difficult descision, you safe these hostages, but ancourage the perpetrators to repeat such acts.

    I would not say that there is nothing you could do. Although there are many problems combined and no one give you a monocausal explanation or root for such incidents, it correlates highly with the militant Islam.

    Maybe it would be a progress if the people in the US and Europe could push their governments at least not to support this ideology.
     
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    300 villagers killed in new Boko Haram attack...
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    Boko Haram holds girls, kills 300 Nigerians
    May 7, 2014 -- Nigerian families awaiting promised help from the West to free hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped weeks ago by terrorists are blaming their own government for the failing to stop an Islamic group that struck again, killing as many as 300 Nigerians.
     
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    And Christians do not accept "Western" education either. Look at how many want to keep their kids at home or in private Christian schools.
     
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    Boots onna ground...
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    US Forces Are in Nigeria to Aid Search for Kidnapped Girls
    May 08, 2014 ~ The U.S. military said almost a dozen staff officers were in Nigeria and would form the core part of the U.S. team to aid in finding nearly 300 schoolgirls who were abducted last month in northern Nigeria.
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    Girls Abduction, Crimes Against Humanity, says Nigeria Official
    May 08, 2014 ~ An adviser to Nigeria President Goodluck Jonathan says the abduction of the school girls and the increasing violence carried out by the Islamic militant group, Boko Haram, are crimes against humanity which have enraged Nigerians and the rest of the international community.
     
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    I am glad to see our government stepping in to help these families when the Nigerian government won't even help their own.

    Still I am afraid there is little our own forces can do when a months times has already passed and these girls have probably been moved out of the country, sold off as brides, sex slaves or even killed.

    This terrorist group has been around since 2002 and it appears they have comitted plenty of heinous terrorist attacks focusing a lot on schools that teach 'Western education'.

    This is a timeline of violent incidents they have incurred upon the Nigerian people since 2010.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Boko_Haram_attacks_in_Nigeria

    Perhaps if these girls are not found we will still seek out and put an end to this terrorist group so they cannot terrorize any more families.
     
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    Nigerian girls likely taken across border...
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    Officials: Abducted Nigerian schoolgirls likely split up, taken across border
    May 9, 2014 -- Former negotiator believes Boko Haram targeted girls to force concessions; Nigerian security chiefs call on those with information about the girls to come forward; Search must expand to Niger, Cameroon and Chad, a U.N. official says; France joins United States, Britain, China in search for girls abducted by group
     
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    I respectfully suggest that your endorsement of USA involvement is ill advised.

    Nigeria is an oil rich country that is endowed with multi BILLIONS in petro dollars. The government is corrupt and is elitist:



    competition for the profits that oil produces has created a great level of terror and conflict for those living in the region. Citizens of Nigeria believe that they haven’t been able to see the economic benefits of oil companies in the state. Additionally, because Nigerian government officials have remained majority shareholders in the profits created by the production of Nigerian oil, this leads to government capturing of nearly all oil production, and citizens are not seeing socioeconomic benefits, and insist that oil companies should compensate people.[2]


    Despite the wealth flowing into the nation from oil revenues many of Nigeria’s socio-economic factors are worse now than they were 30 years ago[28] According to the World Bank, most of Nigeria’s oil wealth gets siphoned off by 1% of the population.[29] Corruption in the government is rampant, in fact since 1960 it is estimated that 300 to 400 billion dollars has been stolen by corrupt government officials.[29] The corruption is found at the highest levels as well.





    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Nigeria




    Nigeria has long been one of the world's most hostile and intolerant nations towards its minority groups. The wealthy elites and corrupt politicians have profited to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Yet, the poor remain in misery.

    Therefore, if the USA taxpayer finances any campaign against dissidents the corrupt government will have no incentive to correct its problems. They will remain while the poor wallow in misery. The government must be forced to correct those injustices without our tax dollars. On that basis, you should not be glad that Washington DC is intervening as it will only prolong the problems while the rich and the corrupt government profit.
     
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    Interesting points.

    I am usually of the mind that the USA should leave other country's alone and mind their own business, but it frustrates me when another country's own government refuses to help it's own people or put a stop to such terrorist attacks.

    I know we cannot save the world, nor should police it, but sometimes I wish there really was more we could do as a nation and I do wish we weren't so driven by money.
     
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    Parents taking search into their own hands...

    Nigerians demand better government response to schoolgirl abductions
    Sat May 10, 2014 ~ Nigerians stage a daily protest urging a better government response; Nigerian President vows "to get these girls out"; First lady Michelle Obama made her first solo White House weekly address; Key Muslim leader criticizes Boko Haram
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    Nigerian families organize search for kidnapped girl
    May 11, 2014 — Frustration and despair over the fate of hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped by Islamic extremists in northern Nigeria is forcing families to organize the rescue themselves.
     
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    The international community can readily impose sanctions on the government if its corrupt officials and the plutocrats who run it refuse to impose changes. Military intervention only adds fuel to the fire of the terrorists as it creates "martyrs" for them. Then they cry about victimization and use that to recruit more soldiers. Then, when the USA or Americans abroad are attacked, it causes the George Bush and Dick Cheney types to demand another war which gives billionaire plutocrats here multibillion dollar contracts so that they profit while we pay and while Americans needlessly die overseas.
     
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    Did you mention the context? It is about 200 girls who were kidnapped and enslaved, because they visited a school. But let me guess you find the behaviour of Christians sending their kids on Christians schools rather more disturbing than this of Muslims, who kill, torture, rape or enslave "infidels" for visiting schools at all like Boko Haram.
     
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    I wasn't aware "Islamists" were different from Muslims in general, and was thinking you were saying all Muslims were against Western education, so I was making a similar statement about Christians, as some of them are against Western education.
     
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    While that may be so it was not a group of terrorist Christians that kidnapped over 200 school girls or committed various other heinous acts and atrocities. That would be off-topic.

    This thread is about Boko Haram and the violence they are incurring against others.
     
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    Granny says dey oughta let `em hold a prayer vigil...
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    Nigerian officials warn protesters not to hold sit-ins over missing schoolgirls
    3 Jun 2014: Activists are told that protests in Abuja could be hijacked by 'criminal elements with links to insurgents'
     
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    Granny says dey try to kidnap her an' dey gonna get the business end of a 12ga. Mossburg...
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    Boko Haram kidnaps more women near Chibok, reports say
    Monday 9 June 2014 ~ Armed Islamists alleged to have forced women into vehicles and taken them to remote, unknown location in north-east Nigeria
     
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    These terrorists need to be stopped. This is absolutely horrible, not to mention all the thousands of people they have injured and murdered over the years. These poor families. My heart breaks for them.
     
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    Arab Muslims are the cause for violence and horror in this world 2014 .
     
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    Terrorists obviously can't be stopped.

    And while your kind heart is admirable girls, children, women are stolen and sold every minute of every day all over the world and not just by terrorists...sadly it has always been and always will be.
     
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    Boko Haram captures hometown of kidnapped schoolgirls...
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    Militants seize hometown of kidnapped schoolgirls
    Nov 14,`14 -- Islamic extremists in Nigeria have seized Chibok, forcing thousands of people to flee the town where insurgents kidnapped nearly 300 schoolgirls in April, a local official said Friday.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*) happens, nothing I can or can be bothered doing about it.
     
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    Well it's about time...
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    Buhari Willing to Negotiate With Boko Haram for Chibok Girls
    December 31, 2015 - Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari has told reporters he is willing to negotiate with the kidnappers of the so-called "Chibok girls," who were taken from their school dormitories in 2014.
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    Nigeria won't release 2 detainees despite court orders
    Dec 30,`15 -- Nigeria's government will not release two prominent detainees despite several court orders for their release, and will not comment on the situation of a third, wounded detainee, President Muhammadu Buhari said Wednesday.
     
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    First investigation bogged down...
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    Chibok girls kidnap: Nigerian president orders new investigation
    14 Jan.`16 - Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari has approved a new investigation into the kidnap of about 200 schoolgirls from the town of Chibok by the Islamist Boko Haram group in April 2014.
     
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    Chibok parents not happy with Buhari...
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    Nigeria: Chibok Girls Parents Unhappy After Meeting Buhari
    January 15, 2016 - A spokeswoman for the Bring Back Our Girls movement in Nigeria has again said it is the duty of the Nigerian government to rescue the Chibok girls from Boko Haram captivity, regardless which political party is in power.
     
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    To answer your question Pasithea Boko Haram also targets boys, but in the case of boys, Boko Haram slashes their throats with machettes, machine guns them down, and puts boys in buildings, locks the doors, boards up the windows, and burns them alive. However, there's no selfie protest for the boys.

    Yes women are treated poorly in third world countries and this is one of the few feminists arguments that has any merit. However, nearly everyone but the elite are treated poorly in third world countries, including male children...



    Boko Harem also murder boys. Where’s the protest for them.

    The kidnapping of the 276 predominantly Christian schoolgirls by Islamic terror group Boko Haram is an atrocity, but it is not the first atrocity they have committed. It is just the first one to trip the West’s interest switch. A girl’s right to an education has become an important pillar in western ideology, and an important pawn in the battle against radical Islam. It is why Malala has seen herself elevated to an almost saint-like position.
    The recent kidnappings have enraged western sensibilities, because they desecrate hallowed ideas about female equality. The West has responded in the only way it knows how: a self-righteous selfie protest using the hashtag ‘Bring Back Our Girls’. Michelle Obama, Cara Delevingne, Jessica Biel and Anne Hathaway have all involved themselves in it. On a more pragmatic front, Britain announced this week that it would send in a small team of Whitehall experts (the subtext being that they are members of our intelligence services and Special Forces). In a toss-up between a selfie and the SAS, I know who I’d back to ‘bring back our girls’.

    But Boko Haram – whose name means ‘western education is sinful’ – does not distinguish between the education of girls and boys. In February, the group attacked another school. After boarding up every exit, its men seized 59 boys and gunned them down or cut their throats with machetes. Some buildings were sealed up and set alight. The girls were ordered to go home, abandon their ‘wicked’ schooling and seek husbands.

    Where was the selfie protest then? Or does a savage affront to male education matter less than a savage affront to female education? The answer should clearly be no. For equality to count, both boys and girls need to feel safe in school. By focusing only on the girls – ‘Our Girls’ – we forget the boys who are also in danger.


    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeeh...-protest-then/
     

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