Over use of the dislike feature.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Look, I am good with someone wanting to debate points, cites, dates, names, examples, of ANYTHING.

    And I am fine with not being able to agree.

    It would be utterly dull if we all did.

    But, and I know others have experienced this from the same two members, there is something altogether sneaky, and really, against the object of the forum, for one person to obsessively go around (Over 35 times in one day, with one member), and not actually say a THING...but ONLY go around like a pretty weird and freaky jilted b/f, and do that.

    I got fed up with it, to the point, that the only way to stop someone doing it, is to place THEM on ignore, otherwise you end up with a bunch of BS alerts, that are like something from Single White Female.:email:

    There are PLENTY of posts I do not like on here, and if I see them, I will try to debate it.

    I do not tend to nip around like a sneak, not taking part, and acting like a person that gets a restraining order in the end.

    Anway, well done if you want to do this, because the only way to stop it, is to put you on ignore.

    Pathetic.

    Jack
     
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    There is nothing sneaky about using this feature as the person is reflected as having liked or disliked the post at the bottom for all to see. I have no idea why Jack would consider this wierd or sneaky or draw any comparisons to a jilted lover.
     
  3. IndieVisible

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    The dislike feature is abused on every forum, many have had to remove the dislike feature for the reasons you mentioned.

    Pity it can't be disabled on abusers only.
     
  4. Jason Bourne

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    Frankly I don't like the like/dislike feature. The add reputation feature is perfectly adequate and serves the intended purpose of rewarding a good post.
     
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    I have noted the same problems as Jack. And I do prefer the rep system, providing it isn't abused.
     
  6. Liebe

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    Any system can be "abused" I suppose. But is clicking on dislike sneaky or abusive? If a poster posts 100 times a day and another dislikes 33 of them, is that abuse?
     
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    Granny says anybody try to hit the dislike button on her...

    ... dey liable to draw back a bloody nub.
    :bandaid:
     
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    I actually think the like/dislike feature is pretty good. The sensible people outway the idiots, and the creeps like the one the OP described can easily be punished by a moderator. If you make a good post then you'll probably get a few dislikes, and a lot more likes - if someone is picking on you and disliking most of your posts then you should report them. The mods also have to take this seriously, though.
     
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    I agree on the dislike button. I think there is a fundamental difference between clicking like and dislike. Simply agreeing with a post is quite straight forwards - the alternative is posting a pointless little "Me too" reply. Unless you have something to add to the subject, clicking like is a quick and simply way to support the point being made.

    If there is something you speicifically dislike about a post though, it only really achieves anything if you explain what you disagree with and why - that's kind of the point of the whole forum. Clicking dislike alone doesn't really achieve anything.
     
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    I like this thread :)
     
  11. Jack Napier

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    Don't get me wrong.

    I use it, from time to time, but only on occasion, and, even then, I will still be man enough to state my case, and fight it.

    Imo, it is the actions of a trolling coward, and it really just a hassle to the member, who logs on, sees they have 45 notifications, wonders what they are....and find a page of freaky and pretty spooky stalking, by the same one member.

    I have to say, not all Zionists even do this, there is a non Jewish one on here, and we fight all the time, but...he is not on my ignore list...because...at least he tends to fight his corner, and tries to debate.

    I have more respect for him for that, at least.


    Jack
     
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    Indeed.

    The rep feature alone was just fine.

    If someone dislikes someone's view, 35 times in one day, then have the gonads to come on, and argue why.

    Otherwise, it is abuse of the feature, and really just trolling.
     
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    Is it a violation of the rules, for one member, to pick out other members, and literally slow down the page, and waste their time, by disliking what they say, 35 times, in one day? Without debating?

    I would say so, but is it covered in the rules.

    The only method that works, is placing them on ignore.

    Else you are just going to spend time filling our reports, I am here to debate.
     
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    Is it ever covered by the rules?

    To be fair, the mods cannot enforce a rule that no one thought would be needed, maybe..?
     
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    Indeed.

    But it does achieve something, if you set out to just bug someone, and be a troll.

    It achieves that purpose v well.
     
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    This has always been a problem on Public Forums, from my experience especially on Science oriented ones, back to 2005. What was probably the best solution, was a limiting of (in this case) like/dislike usage or just offering the like. Keep in mind however, the usage is made public and anyone, including moderators, will notice abuse, or should.
     
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    I dont really care- i find it rather amusing when the most mentally challenged of posters here goes through disliking every post of mine in a thread.

    Seriously- why would I care?
     
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    I have never used the "dislike" button. Having said that someone who goes around with an avatar as offensive as yours shouldn't be a cry baby. What goes around comes around. I have zero sympathy. Frankly it makes me happy you've revealed that your detractors have gotten to you. Good for them.
     
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    Yeah.

    Thought you may bring that in.

    Israel merit it.

    When they set children free from prisons, and return lands they have stolen, and stop using Nazi propaganda machines like Memri, and stop dropping chemicals onto kids, and stop believing that law does not apply to them, then yeah, I will change it.

    Until then, they merit it.

    That said.

    At least the Germans fought their own fights.

    Zionist Jews just use everyone else, against everyone else.

    And, it may have escaped your attention, but I am happy to debate the curtian twitchers that go around like a stalkers, disliking something 35 times, in 12 hours.

    I will face ANY of them, in any debate, on here.

    How about that?
     
  20. Shangrila

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    Its the internets, where no one is ever pleased, ever. Some like this, some dislike that, and the key is to ignore what we can't help and enjoy the rest.
    We all say or do things, on daily basis, that drives others crazy, and, as I mentioned before, we can't please everyone at all times.
     
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    Harassment is against the rules.
     
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    Except it isn't harassment.

    The dislike function is also a mean of expressing one opinion about a subject. To say it is against the rule amount to censorship.

    The Japanese call this "to kill with silence" as in not responding but showing your disagreement in a silent fashion is sometime the only response that someone deserve.

    Now if instead of trying to censor people those that are vested with the duty of policing this board would do their job and clean all those silly Jewish conspiracies and neo-nazi crap, and also hunt the many sock puppets, maybe people wouldn't have to use the dislike feature that much. Btw there is a section for Jewish/Zionist conspiracy already in the conspiracy section, so why continue to permit them elsewhere?

    Either that or come in the clear and say that PF isn't really a political debate forum, but is instead just stormfront lite.
     
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    Have you forgotten that it had been abused, which is why we removed the negative rep option years ago? I don't understand why the admin would put a dislike option back up after she already had to disable it once due to abuse.
     
  24. Jack Napier

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    It is the actions of a sneak and coward, that cannot defend what you wish to defend.

    Any time you wish to debate, on any subject - name the time, place, and thread.

    You come with your 'facts'.

    I will come with mine.

    How about that?
     
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    I think when used as Jack described, it would be thought of by most people as harassment. Obviously we all have our own opinions about it and without doubt most people on this board do not use it as a ploy to intimidate. I had not intended using it. I gave 2 dislikes early simply because the post felt like a flame and personal abuse and I hit the button in response. That seemed in my mind to be why I would use it. However when people have given me a dislike for no reason I can see I have also usually returned the favour.

    What Jack is speaking about is harassment. I tried another forum where people had huge reputations and where they gave massive big red reputation stars with ugly words for the newcomers who said anything against the opinion of the old timers with the massive reps. It made no difference how well researched what you wrote was, indeed it seemed to cause even more anger when it was obviously true, that every post I and every poster critical of Israel would make would result in 2 neg reputation points from at least one poster sometimes several who just like Jack has said never argued the point. We are all human and it does effect us. I left that board.

    Yes, it is a tiny number of people who give massive dislikes without even joining in the debate and they are obviously an irritation, in normal life I think we would say harassment.

    You mentioned sock puppets I am pretty sure one of the mass dislikers is such and he also has an inflammatory avatar.
     
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