"Overturn Roe, turn it back to the States"....okay, a question

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    Do "pro-lifers" believe there are States where pro-choicers are the majority and will keep abortion legal? California? New York? Massachusetts? Illinois?

    If so...what "good" does overturning Roe do?
     
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    I think their plan is to not only overturn Roe but try to get some kind of fetal personhood amendment into the Constitution.
     
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    Obviously. Even the most optimistic among them can't think they'd get state legislatures in EVERY state to ban abortion....so that means that those evil, vile, slutty women could leave a good, decent place like Utah...and travel to Californey to "murder" their "babies".

    But know something odd?.....even when the GOP (the supposed "pro-life party") had the House, the Senate, and Dubya from 2003 to 2006....no vote was ever held on the "Human Life Amendment".

    ALMOST...like the GOP knew how well it would fare....and how it would impact their political fortunes???
     
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    Making it a states issue would be wrong. Life must be protected at the federal level. We've tried the two different definitions of person thing. It didn't work out so well. We had a big ugly civil war over it.



    Yeah, I know. Crazy, right? Kind of like that whole "negro personhood" thing. I mean, what's next? Personhood for coffee tables?
     
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    Yes, it is crazy especially considering how many pregnant women, those who wish to carry to term and those who do not, it will affect on a massive and extremely negative scale.

    First you won't be able to have an abortion next you won't be able to choose how to give birth and after that if you cause the death of your fetus in any way you will charged with negligent homicide or manslaughter. A fetal personhood bill would be devastating to women nationwide.
     
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    I know! I know! Just like those poor farmers. How will they ever till their fields if a negro personhood law is ever passed? Negro personhood would decimate the farming industry. I guess they'll just have to.... *gasp* .....adapt!

    What does choosing how you give birth have to do with anything, though?
     
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    For one it returns constitutionality. If you were not around the time when Roe v Wade was argued then you would not know that many States were already considering allowing abortion. At the time two States already had. The decision was based on the weakest constitutional argument and even some liberal lawyers recognize that. It was a liberal activist court that made the decision.
     
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    And yet every attempt to overturn it has been shot down aand not only by Liberal courts. So much for that excuse.
     
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    Once you abridge the Constitution it is virtually impossible to turn back.
     
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    What does this have to do with abortion? How many slaves have been inside of their slave-holders wombs? Please explain.

    There have been women who wanted to have natural vaginal childbirth after having a C-section previously with another child. Some women have been forced by the hospital to have a C-section against their will. There was one woman in particular who was told that she was going to have a C-section due to a court order and she fled to a hospital and had her baby vaginally at another hospital.

    So this is what having birth the way you choose has to do with fetal personhood bills. It affects and puts women who wish to carry to term at risk. A C-section is much more risky and dangerous than giving birth naturally.
     
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    I may be wrong but I don't think Roe v Wade will be overturned.
     

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