Patients Left To Die, No Treatment, No Drugs, It’s Murder, It’s Out Of A Horror Movie

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Registered Nurse in NYC Hospital: 'Patients are left to die, no treatment, no drugs, it's murder, it's out of a horror movie'

    This video is a stunning indictment of NY Gov. Cuomo and Red Bill de Blasio but the Democrat media complex will make sure none of this gets out. I am sure YouTube will take it down. Facebook did.


    Insane Murdr Going on in NYC Hospitals RN Discloses Go Viral mirrored, Apr 26, 2020, PowerOf One


    article here: https://sonsoflibertymedia.com/regi...o-drugs-its-murder-its-out-of-a-horror-movie/


    personal Opinion: They have to come up with something to get those coronavirus death statistics up.
     
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    NY....home of the Yankees...who suck dirty monkey butt....man I miss baseball :(

    Cuomo seems to be always ready to cast blame. I'm sure he will on most of his errors.
     
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    Cuomo the “ Rotten Meatball “ should be arrested for what he did to NY
    Destroyed everything
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are so many screwups in her rant that if that its no surprise that the doctors and nurses are laughing at this "friend's" beliefs she or he are "not doing", assuming there was any truth to this rant at all.

    And no doctor or nurse should be administering Trump's Magic Elixir, the one that is causing severe arrhythmia and heart failure, damn well sure shouldn't be administered to these coding patients.

    Propaganda, pure and unadulterated. Hope to hell she isn't a nurse practitioner.
     
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    I guess the question is whether or not FB (and probably YT) was able to independently determine that the video's content is "fake news". Sure, FB is privately owned, but they do the world no favor in censoring content they haven't actually debunked, or content that doesn't sit well, in the ideological sense, with the powers that be within FB.
     
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    QUOTE="ModCon, post: 1071637444, member: 71970"]I guess the question is whether or not FB (and probably YT) was able to independently determine that the video's content is "fake news". Sure, FB is privately owned, but they do the world no favor in censoring content they haven't actually debunked, or content that doesn't sit well, in the ideological sense, with the powers that be within FB.[/QUOTE]

    No offense but without verification from a more known source not showing so much obvious bias from the beginning this is pure shitposting

    FB can, will and should take down anything it damned well pleases. I'm sorry, but FB is basically Mark Zuckerberg's private 70.3 billion dollar web page/blog. (Jesu Almighty that's a LOT of money) If you don't like what he lets on or takes off it, make your fandango own. We mustn't forget that the man is running a business based on advertisers and if he lets the page be overrun by Communists, Nazis and Followers of Zardob the Horny he very soon won't have any and then we won't have any Facebook
     
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    pfft typical communists, pretend to give you free healthcare... what you end up with is road to hell
     
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    Always best to wait a little, thing is, could be true, a hospital shoved me in the back once, came within minutes of dying, pneumothorax without any drugs, that fast scary, and that was just a normal day. When the death toll exceeds Vietnam; need big marble monument that looks like virus. Vietnam in months, think about it.
     
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    sonsoflibertymedia......PLEASE!!!Giveme a break!!!
     
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    This stuff will be coming out in droves, who knows if this one instance of it is accurate, there will be REAMS of this stuff coming out. So obvious what was going to happen here within a known corrupt Democrat government. LOL and immensely ironic that the powerful and rich "trial lawyer" contingent of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM will turn on its own and to make the coup de gras of the big blue dungheaps. I LOVE to see the Complex eating its own, gives me a tingle right up my leg. Can;t wait for the "was your loved one murdered by medmal in NYC?" Won't be as big as all the asbestos ads but close. Watch.

    Enjoy all those trial lawyers you have supported for decades behind the scenes without realizing it, LW Democrats. Enjoy all their money they pour into the DNC and candidates while bankrupting this country. You think you are "safe" behind your rotten overpaid Complex wages, your rotten overpaid pensions? Keep thinking that. Enjoy! that's all you and yours.

    Watch. Get out of the big blue cities and restart your lives while real estate in other areas across the country is cheap. Watch.

    Oh, and BTW, WRONG FORUM. This stuff belongs elsewhere than the NEWS. Will this forum ever learn that and start putting real NEWS on this topic where it belongs? It MATTERS with this issue moreso than average political back and forth.
     
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    'It's a horror movie. Not because of the disease, but the way it is being handled,' the frontline nurse said through the friend, who only was identified as Sara NP

    A frontline nurse working in New York on coronavirus patients claims the city is killing sufferers by putting them on ventilators, advocating against them. The nurse persuaded a friend, a nurse practitioner who is not working on coronavirus patients, to make the video to get the word out.

    Sara said COVID-19 patients are placed on ventilators rather than less invasive CPAP or BiPAP machines due to fears about the virus spreading.

    She explained: 'The ventilators have high pressure, which then causes barotrauma, it causes trauma to the lungs'

    Republican Minnesota Senator Scott Jensen told Fox News' Laura Ingraham that Medicare pays hospitals three times as much if patients are placed on ventilators.​

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ng-COVID-19-patients-putting-ventilators.html
     
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    Oh god dont give nancy any ideas or she'll put a covid memorial in the next bill.
     
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    Isn't that the core problem here? A random anonymous YouTube rant isn't going to change anything in the actual hospital if there is really the level of criminal behaviour being alleged going on. The are whistle-blowing routes available to healthcare staff and if they're seriously using words like murder, they should be going straight to the police. The video is a powerful political tool though (as you demonstrated). That isn't to say there isn't anything bad going on but this doesn't strike me as the best first step in actually dealing with it.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They probably did complain, and nothing happened. Do you think they should wait to see if anything is done about it before they go and take it public?
    That could end up taking some time, maybe a long time, and meanwhile more people would die.

    It's probably not the type of thing police could do anything about, since it has to do with medical treatment. I mean, it could effectively be murder, but due to the nature of it, the police can't just step in and do anything about it. This is an area for medical regulation or the courts.
    You normally can't just arrest someone for murder when they are a hospital administrator and they have put in place a policy that could possibly, by some stretch of the imagination, could in any way be argued to be for appropriate medical reasons. In that case, it would come down to an argument of what sort of medical reasons were really most appropriate for those cases.

    That does not mean it is morally/ethically not murder. It just becomes a very grey zone when you are going to try to hold people accountable for it. At what point do "bad medical decisions" arise to the level of murder? How do you prove whether medical decisions were really made in the best interests of the patient, or other the other patients in the hospital?
    You can see how what is murder can be disguised as a medical decision.
     
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    So now anonymous sources are good things? Honest things? Good to know.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we should only believe authorities?

    If the nurse comes forward herself, she will most likely get fired, and have her career ruined. (If you're a nurse who's been working at a hospital for 10 years, and your employer refuses to give you good recommendations, it can be hard to find another job. She'd probably have to pick up and move to some hospital in another part of the country then, which may not even really be an option for her because of her husband's job)
     
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    No - we should never only believe authorities. We should listen to whistle blowers. And we should listen to those who are too afraid to come forward for fear of retribution. I just wanted to be sure I understand your belief that those people now have credibility with you. I will consider this a whole new ballgame!
     
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    Well, let's not draw an equivalency fallacy. There are different types of "whistleblowers". It's not always so simple whether to believe them. I realize the huge potential for hypocritical double standards, but these things can be very situational.
     
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    Who gets to decide which whistleblower is believable? Who gets to determine the situational acceptance of unnamed sources? Is it left to each side to monitor themselves, or shall we just continue to bash those sources that say what we don't like? And what about Trump? He doesn't like anyone who doesn't include their names. So will he believe this video's authenticity?

    As for me, situationally, I think that one who has taken an oath to do no harm should not be hiding in the shadows when others who have taken the same oath are murdering people. Guilty, herself, by keeping quiet. All to save herself and her career. Not really a situation that I would respect. How about you?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good questions, and certainly ones worth discussing.
    Sometimes issues in reality don't have easy solutions. This may well be one example of that.


    Well, just look at what happened to Julian Assange.
    That would be adding a whole other dimension to what you are discussing here.
    In retrospect, if he could have remained anonymous, he probably would have.
     
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