Pauline Hanson - Is She Racist?

It's interesting that certain States in the USA allow girls to marry at the age of 12 through judicial process and marry as young as 14 with parental consent. As a fairly young Aussie in the 80's I was shocked to find out a young girl was allowed to marry at 13 in the States. Is it right? Well it is an emphatic no as far as I'm concerned. Interestingly the parents of the young girl were Christian.

Not all Muslim countries allow girls to marry at age of 9 or 12 but many align marriage age with western standards. Countries that mostly allow marriage at very young ages seem to be located in South America.

What's the moral of the story you ask? Well the basis for arguing against Islam is extremely shallow, especially when a first world country like the U.S. allows marriage at such a tender age and the fact that very few Muslim countries allow child marriage. Christianity is the dominant religion in South America. What do we do? Stop the yanks from emigrating along with South Americans and so forth. The answer is, if they live here they live by our laws and will be consequently convicted. Simple!

The wrist flapping carry on is just shallow hysteria and an attempted ad hominem and badly crafted strawman.

Hanson has never raised child marriage as an issue with Islam, it is just a couple of loonies looking to find some credibility based on their racist views and support of one of Australia's most infamous and divisive political figures. Give up and punch a wall because your silly little arguments aren't convincing here one iota. Yeah have a cry if need be... Hanson is the most unintelligent politician some Australians have elected and probably should go back to what she does best and that's fry me some fish and chips.

You watch, they'll come out with another strawman soon. We can't pick Islam on child marriage.....hmmm, what else can we think up I'm hearing them say

 

Along comes the spider.

Since the spider wants to portray child abuse as shallow and racist one has to ask,"just what sort of rock spider are you???"

 

Well kid brain is a term I've come across recently. This terms says it all.....lol!

Shamelessly desperate

 

it amazes me that an intelligent person like you, and yes I think you are intelligent, I might not always agree with you but I do admire the thought you put into most things.

However...

When it comes to this subject, Islam really, you seem to lose all reason.

It has been clearly demonstrated here that both TV and I are absolutely against paedophilia, or any sort of child abuse or exploitation what so ever. By pointing out that not only Islam, but Judaism and Christianity all support child marriage and by pointing out that most European and Western societies have in the past and some up until quite recent in a historical perspective.

Now child sex is not only wrong morally and ethically, it is also illegal in most countries, and in those countries where it is legal they have many more pressing issues then child marriage e.g. Nigeria.

read this link ...https://quranalyzeit.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/cii-vs-islam-does-the-quran-really-permit-child-marriage/

Pointing these things out doesn't make us rockspiders.

 

I think that this gets to the bottom of it. http://www.uws.edu.au/newscentre/news_centre/more_news_stories/whats_the_best_way_to_go_to_the_toilet_squatting_or_sitting

 

You have constantly negated one obvious fact in your deliberations on Islam verses Christianity & Judaism regards to child sexual abuse. Modern Christianity & Judaism no longer accepts and tolerates child sexual abuse though forced child marriages, but Islam does. You have been given links to demonstrate these facts, but you still want to ignore the evidence and proof that has been offered. Why?

Individuals are guilty of directly sanctifying and facilitating child sexual abuse by protecting the teaching of modern Islam and the followers of a religion, when these religious followers don't speak out against child sexual abuse that is condoned and encouraged by their religion Islam.

How about writing that you are against the parts of Islam and the followers of Islam that support child sexual abuse though arranged child marriages? I have never seen you write this?

 

You do comprehend that a human beings can still sit on a toilet and move their body fame to a forward biological position to acquire the same squatting motion, without devolving into a cave man and crapping on the floor?

 

Yeah it's a good thing we are smarter then them dumb arabs eh.

 

Hamlet???? Yep it sounds like a masquerade! When the argument is lost "well wow" out comes the most outrageous comments and accusations. It's an absolute giggle fest every time and extremely childish. Reminds of a traffic controller who was motioning for traffic to slow down and when no body did, he threw his helmet to the ground and starting stamping his feet in a fit of rage. It was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. He took way too much responsibility for his job. The strange thing was the traffic was driving to the speed indicated.

You can't be so bombastically patronising and sanctimonious. When one wants everyone to kowtow to their every comment like a forum guru, you've lost the plot. You certainly can't pontificate and expect people to take you serious in any setting let alone on an online forum. Certainly don't insult people's intelligence by expecting that everyone is going to bow. Get real I say and stop being so cocksure!

Post no: 208 certainly puts things in perspective in my opinion. It should be general knowledge where many of our educational advances derived from. The Middle East was the epicentre for commercialisation.

Anyway, I think the discussion on Islam and the misconceptions have been cleared up and debunked thoroughly.

On that note it actually demonstrates the superficiality of Hanson's views and if those views are incorrect it can only be suggested that she is a brainless nincompoop who doesn't have the capacity to add 2 and 2 together. Either that or she is blissfully ignorant and I'm sure we all know where that inference is heading.

 

I am sorry but this is no longer about Islam. If you consider this to be the case, you really do need to comprehension lessons.

I have already stated that I question your stance on child abuse and I give you the opportunity to set the record straight about YOUR stance on such given the ambiguity of your statements as explained.

You have not clearly demonstrated anything of the sort. In fact this very paragraph demonstrates the ambiguity of your claims by attempting to use it in opposition to a stance directly opposing very issue of child abuse. By making argument to the claims of Islam being no different on historical grounds and so needs to be addressed in the same manner, again for the last time I give you a hint Child Abuse Royal commission. While my point is NOT about the difference of any religion or theological teachings of any kind, it is about the very fact that Child abuse is wrong regardless and inexcusable. YOU appear to me to be quantifying child abuse. OR in other words allowing certain criteria to make excuse for it…

Again, here we see ignore issues of child abuse because you think there are more pressing issues…

Oh sorry, did you really consider I was calling you a rockspider??? Your projection of my comments to another is something incredible... I make that questions to a person who simply believes child abuse is shallow and racist, if you concur with such stance then YES it does make you a rockspider… let us know.

I offered YOU the chance to clarify your comments as to what you are portraying. As I said simply saying you are against such is nothing. When you wish to quantify child abuse and forgive it due to religious beliefs then all you statements of objections are demonstrated as lies. Possible the most poignant part of your comment,

I don’t care what you wish to think this comment means, the truth is that you are forgiving child abuse due to YOUR ideal that this person is not responsible for his religious beliefs as tort by others. I don’t care who you are and what excuses you wish to pose, child abuse is child abuse. It does not change to accident because YOU want to forgive such activity for your own ideals.

So when you say “It has been clearly demonstrated here that both TV and I are absolutely against paedophilia, or any sort of child abuse or exploitation what so ever.” I say your entire comment is BS. I point to your ignorance of the subject as being your cause, you complain. So if your child abuse excuses are not from ignorance then it must be from more insidious intentions.

Clearly apparent that you wish to continue your stance of child abuse is not child abuse if there is a cause or reason that meets your standards of reasoning. I offered you a chance to clarify your stance on child abuse YOU chose to twist and continue to claim there are mitigating circumstances that gives some excuse. While the resident Troll you wish assist in protecting is clearly a rockspider who wish to ignore child abuse, ergo protecting the perpetrators of such, there seems to be a huge issue of your mentality toward child abuse.

STUPIDLY, you think this a point of debate. Nowhere, have I stated my stance will be changed… Child abuse is WRONG and everybody needs to stand against child abuse, NOT when it is politically expedient.

 

Seriously??? You make jokes of a subject because you stupidly think it is fun to marginalise child abuse for what??? So you really believe the stupid comments below are funny on the subject of child abuse???

This stupid moron seems to think he is winning an argument about child abuse. The rockspider thinks he can argue the point of child abuse being trivial and racist and believing this has some credibility. This one comment alone demonstrates why the others who stood back and demonstrated their grubby stance that child abuse is something they can score political points with have run off and changed their personas this one remains demonstrating his ignorance.

This truly demonstrates exactly the type of scum this poster is… Guess who is on the bottom supporting such comments… another scum bag eh DV…

I do believe you two will be happy together supporting your own degradation of everybody around you...

 

One really has to wonder just what sort of people would stand to trivialize child abuse.

However, since all about have stated their own stance which is in opposition to their excusing child abuse one would wonder WHY they continue to persist in such grubby behaviour. All you have to do is look to the troll who wishes to claim victory of some sort of argument within his head that others simply oppose his grubby stance. Claiming child abuse as a strawman (we really have to ask if he actually knows what that means) and considers child abuse as "an absolute giggle fest every time and extremely childish"

I was wrong when I said “nothing to see here”. Obviously we have couple of people who want to excuse child abuse. Frankly, the troll of the forum has demonstrated just what sort of grub he is and wanting to blame everybody else for his continued belief that politics is all about insulting everybody who does not agree with them.

I think we can all see just what sort of grubs are about on this forum, frankly they deserve the disregard of all about. I am guessing one day their apologetic attitude for the grubs who destroy children’s lives will one day return to haunt them, unfortunately until then the world will have to see the faces and words of the scumbags…

 

I would bet you a free vacation, neither of these two sanctimonious hypocrites would offer their 12 year old daughters or granddaughters to a 25 year old Muslim for an Islamic marriage.

However they tolerate everyone else's children being forced into sexual child abuse through Islamic child marriages, because it doesn't offend their sensiabilities.

 

The most issues about all this Garry17, is that these people have the intellect to know and understand that Islam condones sexual child abuse through forced child marriages in countries around the world. They also know and understand that no other religion on this planet currently condones sexual child abuse by allowing forced child marriages.

They claim “moderate” Muslims living in Australia and around the world are against child sexual abuse through forced child marriages, and are speaking out about it.

But why don’t we every see or hear these “moderate” Muslims publicly speaking out IF they exist?

I have never once said that every Muslim condones child sex abuse though forced child marriages; discrimination against women; killing gay individuals or the Halal barbaric slaughter of animals.

However, I have produced independent evidence that supports the facts that for an individual to call themselves a Muslim, they must have to believe in, and follow the teachings of the Islamic faith. There is nothing in the Islamic faith that distinguishes any difference between a “moderate” Muslim and a “fanatical” Muslim. A moderate Muslim and fanatical Muslim are both considered Muslims under Islam, and both believe in the teaching of the Islamic faith; including sharia law.

Its only stands to reason, that if certain individuals don’t believe is all the teaching prescribes by Islam, then they cannot call themselves Muslims. But under their own definition of the term Muslim, only an individual who believes in the teaching of Islam can call themselves a Muslim. Therefore, there can be no such terminology as a “moderate” Muslim as it applies to the definition of a Muslim.

A Muslim, sometimes spelled Moslem,[1] relates to a person who follows or practises the religion of Islam,[2] a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the Quran. Muslims consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophet and messenger Muhammad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim


Islam (/ˈɪslɑːm/;[note 1] Arabic: الإسلام‎‎, al-ʾIslām IPA: [alʔisˈlaːm] ( listen);[note 2] is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion articulated by the Qur'an, a religious text considered by its adherents to be the verbatim word of God (Allāh), and, for the vast majority of adherents, by the teachings and normative example (called the sunnah, composed of accounts called hadith) of Muhammad (c. 570–8 June 632 CE). An adherent of Islam is called a Muslim (sometimes spelled "Moslem")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam


There is no other religion on the face of the planet that forces its current everyday worshipers to use its religious “Identity Marker” to identify themselves as a human being - ONLY Islam.

How many people around the world identify themselves by their religious “identity Marker” besides Muslims?

This is why Pauline Hanson is gaining more support in getting a Royal Commission into whether or not Islam is really an antiquated religion or a political ideology.

How in hell would it be humanly possibly to trust Muslims when their religion (Islam) encourages and teaches them to lie to anyone who is non-Muslim to achieve it religions agenda?

 

Gosh, somebody needs some love LRL. How did I not know there was spray of paroxysms imminent. I guess Hamlet it is, there is no other explanation for the baseless and desperate tirade. It says it all

Oh dear, Pauline Hanson certainly attracts some looney followers but what can you expect with the calibre of person she is....or lack thereof. They'll say whatever it takes and cut across all contexts in their hypocritical Hypnotical state of mind, shamelessly castigating others in their ostensible carnage of aspersions.

Everyone has the right to follow and subscribe to whatever views they like but anyone who subscribes to the Hanson superficiality and hysteria obviously have the same intellectual quality.......wait up it is not intellect it is pessimistic emotional hysteria!

PS. Like at your own peril!

 

Now we see the Troll seems to be stuck trying to garner support for their ignorance by attempting to insult everybody about. So your statement that your mate has clearly demonstrated they are against anything is a flat out lie.

As for your credibility on being against child abuse, if you were against it how in hell can you even consider these comments are even slightly accurate???

Since your justification of comment is through religious teachings, there is something you clearly have a new ignorance (possibly deliberate) of the truth of such. BUT let us move on.

Again the claim of objection to such, yet you wish to clarify child abuse into your own acceptable beliefs, which is opposed by everybody except your mate…

This last point again demonstrates the ignorance you are trying to bumble through with, obviously by more insidious motives than just trying to clarify anything.

Now one very important thing to note here is that you will try and suggest NOTHING of physical contact needs to occur. This belies the point that you are discussing child abuse in religious context due entirely of the point that religions do not even acknowledge a marriage by LAW and never has. If you had the slightest idea of what you were talking about you would completely comprehend why you appear to be lying from your ignorance.

Sure it is good you can post lines and lines of scripture, legal script or just quotes from others but obviously the capability to comprehend what you posts are the point of intelligence, not the fact you can post it.

Fact is, you have demonstrated just what sort of grub you are, and gained a friend. Two grubs together. Excusing child abuse because you can justify it by labelling it or transferring blame for the action from perpetrator to others either victim or preacher. So far, you have done everything but admit that child abuse is about CHILDREN BEING ABUSED.

I do believe we have seen the grubs align.

 

Hanson creates hysteria and the masquerading do gooder wanna be's jump on the band wagon hoping to vent their racist, bigoted spleens making light of child marriage by using as a strawman. Hanson herself has never raised child marriage, she just gets all hysterical over a group of people who have caused the least terror in the world but are created as the boogeyman man because the conservatives around the world know their emotional right will be filled with fear and doom. The nincompoops go wristflappingly mad

 

Suddenly the grub has realised the picture it paints for itself. The attempt to pretend it is not a slimy worm supporting child abuse by claiming it did not make light of a very serious issue and showing support for the belief that child abuse is not child abuse. BUT everybody can see the truth.

Of course it was everybody else, this grub is not a bad person. Well others will judge and I am sure the grubs will be told. Still, we expect nothing less from the resident Troll...

 

Oh, I forgot to mention Hanson sociopaths are bereft of any intellectual capacity because fear and control is their comfort and consequently become duplicitous in all attempts to convince the perspicacious.

 

Not being funny here but did anyone see the anti-Islam protesters in Melbourne? Half of them look like they come from the set of Hills With No Eyes, deadset. They look like some serious crazies. Outward appearances don't mean much to me at all but when you get a group of people with no teeth in their heads probably from doing some heavy sh!t and screaming murder you tend to get the feeling that these people are looking for relevance. If relevance is it then go and get yourselves educated or at least get a dang job. And these people think they're representing Australia.

These are the very people who support Hanson. They're terrorists to be honest, trying to intimidate people into supporting their bullsh!t. Go and grow a brain you numbskulls and stop bringing embarrassment to our country. The only thing you need to reclaim is your teeth and stay off the dang drugs it seems. What a shameful blight on our society, and that's what we will get with Hanson. People saying: just because Hanson has half a brain and can't speak she says what people are thinking. All of a sudden you get others without half a brain and little education with animal instincts repeating the bogan and simplistic message. Yeah okay, they need a voice.......but so do those of us who disagree with these intellectually challenged characters bringing embarrassment to the rest of us.

 

I think she's disgusted at the multiculturalist white genocide being inflicted on what was once a white nation.

She doesn't articulate herself well but I understand her stance.

White people globally are wakening to the reality of the plans for white genocide under the lies of communist multiculturalism.



From the pen of the founding father of the EU.

The Bolshevik ideology of multiculturalism

 

Are we talking Australia?

 

Don't have to be a genius to know that white people are being educated & manipulated to hate the colour of their own skin, and indoctrinated into believing every other culture is better then theirs.

 

Yep, the Jewish Bolshevik destruction of the white race was put in motion 100 years ago with the lies of multiculturalism, and Coudenhove-Kalergi's Pan European Manifesto

 

Anders Brevik keeps coming to mind. Where is this leading again?