PBS Frontline: Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    They most certainly are
     
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    resisting arrest Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, the first shot should be the best because you have more time to prepare but in the Kennedy assassination the last shot (which the Warren Commission attributed to Oswald) which struck the president was "perfect". The last shot came from somewhere else than the TSBD.
     
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    A, Do NOT call me a liar without proving it. Post reported

    B. Document your claim that snipers and hunters expect their first shot to miss
     
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    There's a video posted in that thread? No...there is not
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I never made such a claim and the accusation that I did is a lie.

    I did provide proof as well.

    Also stating a claim is a lie is not calling someone a liar good luck with that. The forum guidelines clearly state attack the message not the messenger.
     
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    Wrong the first shot is the least accurate for any number of reasons.

    For one thing it is one i at their most apprehensive. Once the shooting starts one is committed and the apprehension decreases. Often if one's sights are off or mis - aligned it will throw off the first shot allowing one to make adjustments.

    They call it a cold bore shot for a reason because it is the most likely to miss compared to follow up shots.
     
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    Your areguments are destroyed which is what I referred to and yes they most certainly are
     
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    You really need to keep up.

    Ventura's bullshit video has already been discussed exhaustively and debunked.

    I and others have shown many links, evidence and proof that many have duplicated Oswald's shooting.

    Ventura is a cheap fictional entertainer and a wanna be
     
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    You have post after post of personal attacks. We've let s lot of it slide.

    No longer.

    You're going to need to act civil
     
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    I'm no fan of Ventura...but your links have been no better.
     
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    They do in fact have much better.

    They prove your claims that oswald could not have done the shooting are false
     
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    Attacking the message is not attacking the person
     
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    Requiring posters to behave in a civil manner is not "attacking the messenger" unless incivility is so part of your character that you have no control over yourself. In which case...you don't matter
     
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    The last shot hit JFK in the right temple area (and can be seen clearly and sickeningly in the Zapruder home movie) and rocked his head "back, and to the left" in a brilliant spray of bone, blood and brain matter.
    It resulted in a massive exit wound in the back of JFK's skull and you are correct...it sure as hell did not come from the TSBD!

    Oswald bears no responsibility in that last shot and he would be a little known footnote had the Warren Commission not made him the sole scapegoat in their whole narrative of lies and cover ups It also makes moot, as noted before, the question of rather Oswald could have fired all three shots at JFK.

    From the instant the president was shot he (Oswald), and he alone, became the focal point of the FBI's investigation, to the exclusion of anyone else, and the Cold War hawks in the CIA that engineered the coup had their eye on Oswald for years (sending him into and out of the Soviet Union in order to attract foreign counter agents, but no one ever bit on the bait), putting his little "Fair Play for Cuba" show on in New Orleans and having agency "managers", like Ruth Paine and George de Mohrenschildt, watch over and guide their intelligence asset. It was Ruth Paine who got Oswald his job at the TSBD.

    We cannot know what, if any, Oswald knew in advance about the killing in Dallas because, of course, he was silenced by Jack Ruby (long time government informer) before he could speak (I wonder if any of the long interviews the Dallas PD had with Oswald while they were holding him survive or, more likely, they were destroyed not long after Oswald was shot down in the underground garage of the Dallas P.D).

    We do know that the man that the Warren Commission said wanted everyone to take note of his greatness by killing the president vehemently denied the killing (so odd, considering) and Jack Ruby, before dying, begged to be put before the Warren Commission because "very powerful men" were behind the killing and his only chance out of the trap they put him in was making his knowledge public.

    That never happened...again, how odd the investigating committee of Kennedy's death just didn't want to hear from him.

    How very odd, indeed!
     
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    Vehemently? Hardly.

    Your reasoning ignores that we didn’t invade Cuba which would be the logical first step of a “war hawk”…
     
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    All false.

    There was no entrance wound in JFk's temple and we have massive photographic evidence to prove this. The back and to the left movement was caused by a variety of forces including neuro-muscular response and the jet effect. The autopsy proves the bullet in the head entered from above and behind and you have proven unable to challenge that expert conclusion.

    The Warren Commission was not even assembled named or convened until well after Oswald was identified as the most likely suspect and murdered by Ruby. Your claim that they made him the scape goat is ludicrous.

    There is no evidence that Oswald came and went to and from the USSR for any reason but his own and he had no known connection to the intelligence community. Nor did Ruth Paine who was a teacher.

    There is nothing odd about a murderer vehemently denying his guilt.

    Your entire claim is pure fictrion
     
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    \You miss the point.

    Calling a lie a lie is not attacking the person and many of your claims are proven lies
     
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    Chuckle...Interesting you should contest that word that I specifically chose because that was the exact word (vehemently) that Oswald himself used when replying to a reporter about whether he shot anyone. "I vehemently deny it", he said. Look it up.

    This man who the Warren Commission told us shot the president because he wanted to become famous and important didn't want any notoriety at all, it turns out. Gee....can you beat that!

    Oh right...your favorite senseless theory again. Your idea of what war hawks would or wouldn't want to do in what order really doesn't impress me much.
     
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    Well it's based on logic; something you don't believe in quite clearly.
     
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    That was not the motive that the Warren Commission gave for Oswald's murder of kennedy
     
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    "Logic"? LOL....Is that what you call your imagination?
     
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=ken...wound&imgrc=rqq6tJjUYQjswM:&spf=1495646044865
     
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    No.

    One would have to account for why the “war hawks” would go through the trouble of Assassinating Kennedy then NOT invade the closest Communist nation to our shores….
     

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