Pentagon ran secret multi-million dollar UFO programme

Ok, here we go! There was a secret UFO program at the Pentagon. While interesting I don't think it's the juicy stuff. Just a pet project that was a secret. I think this is a misinformation campaign. Just to show us stuff that was not important. Meanwhile there is probably a lot of secret UFO stuff that has not been released. Is this a fluke??? A trial run to see how we'll react???

Well, personally I think it should be shut down and any remaining funds re-allocated. I love the UFO subject, but this was a light hearted effort. Where's the aliens, when did they contact them??? Nothing here.

Pentagon ran secret multi-million dollar UFO programme
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42379749

 

USAF UFO projects named Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book ran for about 20 years total ending in 1969. All of the files and paperwork are stored in Alabama.

Gloria Allred is offering in the low to mid six figures to those who will come forward with allegations about those forty plus year old files because little green men committed sexual harassment in flying saucers.

 

Say What???

 

This was a Harry Reid boondoggle. Nothing more.

 

I'd like to link to a more detailed news article, but most of them are behind a paywall.

 

I don't like that this was all a waste of money, but now we're getting a bit more UFO releases between this and the Tom Delonge thing.

 

I would think that when our military makes contact with craft which are far advanced so much so, we cannot understand how they operate, that not investigate this would be unbelievable.

This may finally be the start of a disclosure of what our gov't has known for decades. Something is appearing in our skies, much more advanced than we are, and if these things are malevolent, we are in deep shi^t.

If we have a group which is in charge of keeping tabs on these craft, and is trying to understand what it is, it has been dark and in stove pipes from the get go. Congress has no need to know, and no access. So, that Reid and others would get this kicked off, is because they have no access to any programs we might have in regards to ufos. Yet anyone who has paid attention damn well knows there are too many sightings of these things over the years, from credible people, for there to be nothing to this. And finally, people within our gov't are letting the cat slowly out of the bag. So, a decision was made up on high, to leak out the military videos of the craft, and to release this news on the existence of that program. I don't think people realize what just happened, and just how unbelievably important this story is. It is a game changer.

For the ufo community, this has been a long time in coming, After years of being ridiculed, called all kinds of names, this must have been a great day. They have known there were advanced craft in our skies even when even the scientists said it was impossible for anyone to get here. And yet, something in highly advanced craft are here, and that can no longer be denied. For now it is official, something is here, and we better hope they are peaceful. But since they have been here a very long time, and have not destroyed us, is good news.

What is so telling is the reaction from some in science, who refuse to believe those military pilots and their fighter jet videos and dar, and their own eyes, and still maintain it is impossible for these craft to be here. Of course when such craft defies natural law, or our understanding of it, one might get a bit testy because something knows more than they do. It will be worse than when MSM found out trump had won!

 

So, the evidence from that fighter jet and 4 pilots, video, radar, and what this craft did, is boondoggle? Should we not investigate this? Or just ignore them when they are operating around a carrier group, conducting exercises? And then just say, we saw nothing, nothing.

Perhaps some of us need to buy a jar of mustard, so when you have to eat crow, it will go down a little easier?

This could be the long awaited disclosure of what we have known since ww2 or right after. That not only are we not alone, but there is more than one species and they have been here for thousands of years and are the source of the myths of all of those ancient gods.

Or we are seeing a psyops in progress. I will go with ETs who are so advanced as to appear to be magic. God like. It will be fun to watch how people accept or reject it. Right now some of these scientists are in denial, and will not believe observation and hard evidence from jet fighters and advanced radar on our ships. One of them said he would believe it when you bring one home for dinner. Or, it is beyond my understanding as a man of science, and so I must reject it,. Or, my understanding does not allow these craft to exist, and so I must reject it. We will see human nature exercise itself with these men of science. So pop us some popcorn and get ready!

 

Well there are those in the UFO community who, after these releases, are now declaring that Trump will be the disclosure President.

Take this video for instance:
Steve Bassett: Why President Donald Trump Could be About to Announce that ALIENS EXIST
Dur: 5:54

 

there is a psychological operation on the internet that says jews are an extra terrestrial reptile species, 'that have been here for thousands of years and are the source of the myths of all of those ancient gods'.

that usury or debt slavery from the catholics, jews, and protestant yankees in the north, was invented to enslave good human beings like evangelical christians of the south.

 

The trouble with so much of the ufo community is that it seems to be full of nuts. I give Stanton Friedman some creds, but he is the exception rather than the rule. I think it is because you can make a living by being a good liar and story teller, at these ufo conferences, and there is a group of people who make their living from it. Which eventually leads to fighting, as each one claims to understand the ETs while others do not. lol. To keep their paychecks coming.

UFOLOGY is business today, from its humble beginnings. And it could be that disclosure will leave lots of these people without a job. Of course if no one really knows the intent or nature of these things, that leaves a place for these same people to earn a living.

 

So, all of these big and rich jewish bankers, are reptoids? And Hitler was trying to do earth a favor, by killing out the reptoids?

 

its a psychological operation, there is no way to prove that extra terrestrial jews live among human beings.

unless you have empirical evidence to make this claim, the people who do mind control for the betterment of society are misusing their powers.

 

I dunno. Barbara Streisand kinda favors a lizard to me.

I am kinda like a democrat. I need no evidence, just say so works.

 

shut down, if there is unidentified flying things in our sky's, they should always be investigated to identify them as either ours or another countries flying things

though probably many are man made drones by jokesters

 

The New York Times published a stunning story Saturday (Dec. 16, 2017).

There are now alien alloys stored in warehouses in Nevada. They don't know what they are.

Did you hear about this???

 

I think one of them is that piece of laminated metal in something like 19 super thin layers that Art Bell had sent to him back in the 1990s from the son of one of the roswell service men who stole it. Perhaps now someone will come up with the money to do scientfic inquiry into these things.

I'd like to see more footage of military contact with these ufos, since there is probably tons of film. I think the reason our gov't has denied the existence of these highly advanced craft for decades is because they don't know what in the hell they are except a craft that relies upon physics that we know nothing about. And clearly if they wanted to take us down, they have the technology to do so. But since they have not taken us down, they seem to be no threat, and apparently are not war mongers as humans are. Although Tom DeLong believes some of them are evil, bad beings and a threat. We better hope he is wrong.

I am still in shock that this info was released to MSM, and that the head of one of their programs who left gov't to join DeLong says we may not be alone, and are being visited, if they don't live here already. It has been fun watching some of the scientists comment on this, while still saying these advanced craft must be something else, for there is no way for them to get here. But we have evidence these are some kinds of craft, unless you think our military are idiots and cannot tell the difference between a craft and a goose.

I want the ET presence to be revealed so I can watch the faces of the scientists and those people who think people who have seen craft not of this world are nuts. It is always fun when the nuts turn out to be right and the debunkers turn out to be the nuts. It strikes a blow against arrogance and thinking you have the key to reality in your hands or mind.

 

Well, this story about the alien alloys isn't from Roswell, New Mexico or the stuff sent to Art Bell in the 1990s. This is new and has to do with the billionaire who was running the Pentagon's black budget UFO department started by Harry Ried. The Billionaire has a warehouse in Las Vegas containing these strand metal alloys.

I have a news story about this, from Scientific American, but it's behind a paywall:
The Truth About Those 'Alien Alloys' in The New York Times' UFO Story
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...alien-alloys-in-the-new-york-times-ufo-story/
Is the government really stockpiling materials in a Nevada building that scientists cannot identify?

 

I'm not arguing that lights in the sky that aren't identified shouldn't be identified, my problem is with people, apparently you're one of them, who regard that the investigation is essentially over and these are aliens from another star system. That sounds like the least likely explanation since it fits so well with the current culture's fantasies. 500 years ago the same thing would be interpreted as angels, now we think we know better and use our current mythology to call them aliens.

I think best guess is that it's some natural phenomenon that we're not aware of yet. But your mind seems to be closed to any other possibility other than aliens.

 

I do not know where these craft are from, another dimension or outer space. But it is technology, unless we want to resort to magic and magical beings. And we are not talking about just lights in the sky, but craft, seen and picked up by military instruments and radar. So, we cannot deny these craft are there, that they come around our military, have appeared over our icbm missile sites and even shut them down, and we have testimony from retired military to verify this.

What has been observed is against our understanding of physics, which only means there are things in physics we are not aware of right now. And this has been observed, by eye, by instruments, and now we know for sure this has been seen. No longer just conjecture. And these craft exist, which means some intelligent is behind them. That is just logical. Where this intelligence is from is what we do not know. But we cannot deny the existence of these craft which defy our understanding of physics. Those days are over. They are here, and have been here for a long time while gov't has denied it. That is understandable, for it would have created all kinds of problems, and I think the last decades have been used to slowly acclimate us to it. MSM never played a role in this, for they would chuckle and bring up little green men. But they had to cover this, given that DOD fellow in charge of investigating it came out after retiring from the DOD. Apparently he must have got the green light to do what he did. From someone higher than himself.

So these craft break the laws of physics that we know, they are real, and the question is, how does the tech work, and who is in charge of these craft? You don't have many choices on who is in charge. It could be ETs, who can get from there to here, or it is something from another dimension. What else is left? That these scientists are in denial and will not even think about the source is the funny part. They have no trouble thinking about theoretical things in physics, just when it comes to something we now know exists. And which uses technology they have no clue as to understanding because their understanding of physics is not on par with what makes these craft work.

What has increased is the frequency in which these craft interact with our military. We better hope we understand the tech before russia or china does. For this tech would give one nation complete supremacy over the other. So this stuff is very important.

This isn't some phenom that is an illusion, but are hard, solid objects, technology. That acts with intelligence. Perhaps you will have to see the material they are talking about showing the public? Which is not from here? Regardless, whatever it is, is not what we know of as reality, which is why you are having a problem with it. It seems unbelievable, just as the aztecs could not believe they were seeing beings, light skinned on top of these armored beasts attacking them.

 

I am not sure what art bell got isn't with Bigelow now, along with other materials. I know art tried to have his tested but not sure what came of that. I heard it mentioned that some of the material is laminated metal, which is what bell had. But it could also be other material, residue left behind, etc.

Bigelow has been involved in this research before he got the contract. He had a group of experts and scientists research other things prior, and is himself convinced we are being visited by someone from somewhere with much greater technology. He has spent much more of his own money in researching this stuff than the 22 mil given to him by congress. He is a billionaire after all. Yet anything discovered under this gov't contract is not his, but the US Govt. He cannot tell us anything about it. Yet he is convinced we are being visited. He said as much on that news program a few months ago when the reported asked him that question.

 

You're assuming they're "craft." That's a pretty big leap for something that you also admit violate the laws of physics.

 

I am simply repeating what the head of the program at the DOD said. You think he might know a little more than you? I think he knows more than I do. So, he has reasons to call them craft. Whereas you have no reason to say they are not, given you don't have is info. Right?

 

If the question has already been answered to your satisfaction, and the government actually has the evidence that UFO's are actually alien spacecraft, let them roll out the evidence.

I anxiously await. In the meantime, minus the evidence, your stance is more akin to a religious belief.

 

A religious belief does not involve craft, which are not illusions but solid objects. Perhaps you have another term to call what has been observed, interacted with, and showed up on our highest advanced instruments. So what woul you call an object which behaves in the manner in which these things behave? Come on, spit it out. I am curious.

Truth is, what these pilots have observed, and there are many cases involved here, and the things showing up on different sensors, is evidence. Evidence that a non man made object is around our naval forces, and we cannot keep up with them once they decide to leave. These things exist, there is the evidence for that. The only question is, given they show intelligence in operation, is what are they? Right? If they do not tell us, that is left up to us to use our brains to make guesses. You don't want to guess. I do. This is not a religious belief, but one of only a couple options which come to mind. But others are guessing, and some of these people are scientists. So I am in good company at any rate. You may call them, their stance, akin to religious belief too, if that suits you. I think I see someone in denial, but will not admit denial. Perhaps you are just not equipped to handle something..unthinkable? I think this is endemic on the debunker side. But the evidence this there that these things exist and are not illusions. Regardless of what they are, they are ****ing extraordinary and not what we would generally think as natural to this world that we both grew up in.