People died from mRNA shots...results from autopsies in Germany

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    NWolfe

    I presume you could not find the time to read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. You should check out what that book reveals about your hero Fauci.

    You likely have not paid attention to the release of the Twitter files. They confirmed what many already knew, that 2 doctors, Fauci and Francis Collins both conspired to block talk of the Great Barrington Declaration by Bhattacharya because that declaration opposed the fear delivered by Fauci and Collins.
     
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    Show
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  3. UntilNextTime

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    Cases are rare because many medicos are reluctant to report the 'adverse' effects. While the ones that are reported are by the medicos who uphold their Hippocratic oath.
    I haven't and I won't. Saving lives? :roflol::roflol::roflol:From what? I bet you didn't notice that the flu just 'vanished' for 2/12 years. Now we're all told that we "just have to live with it" [covid] Shouldn't that have been the case from the get-go, or are they covering up the fact that people are still catching covid after being shot and boosted?
    I can tell you, but can you tell me if it was worth taking the risk?

    Australia must learn to live with COVID-19, PM Scott Morrison says


    So is this the cop-out to adjust the narrative that the crap jabs don't work?
     
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  4. Death

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    The proof as to the effectivity of any or all of the Covid 19 vaccines is in the public domain and many have been produced ad nauseum in response to anti vaxers on this forum. However people like you ignore that information and make sweeping unsubstantiated statements that this information does not exist,

    Then you refer to yourself as people. You are not people.You are you. Swelling your size to make yourself look more credible simply reflects your insecurity. You speak for yourself. You are not a collective and being a collective would not make you credible your rational information might. You have none

    It is in fact not easy to deal with people like you who deny anything you disagree with. However its not relevant either. People like you who have a mandate to deny need be treated in one of two ways. Mostly ignoring you is the easiest way. Its only when you spread false bullshit it might be necessary to counter it and this is a forum after all to debate. However you don't. You engage in childish references to yourself and size.

    People. You are a people. That is quite a civilization you are. Now as for the effects of the vaccines either provide your evidence they are ineffective or move along and cough someplace else.
     
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    Data was examined from 18 million people across the world by Italian researchers. They found that vaccination reduces the risk of infection by half, compared with natural immunity alone. The also found that vaccinations halves the risk of developing severe Covid-19 symptoms during a reinfection.

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/985671

    "Our results confirm that, among the recovered, those who have received two or three doses of vaccine have a 50% to 60% lower risk of reinfection than those who are not vaccinated," study author Lamberto Manzoli, MD, a medical epidemiologist and director of the University of Bologna's School of Public Health and Hygiene, Bologna, Italy, told Medscape Medical News.

    "Considering that the number of people who recovered is now in the hundreds of millions worldwide, these results appear particularly encouraging and provide strategic information for future pandemic control policies," he said.

    Link to the study:

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2022.1023507/full
     
  6. UntilNextTime

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    I wonder how much they got paid, or perhaps how much they would lose should they create a study that proved the covid jabs are rubbish?
     
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    You obviously didn’t even read the links. Your response is absolute rubbish.
     
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    I don't need to READ your links within your post. The following statement in your post said it all so as to NOT read it.
    Any claim made to state that an individual is better protected by the covid shots, needs their head read. As there are countless studies to prove that your beloved false idol god [covid vax] is the be-all and end-all. The end-all part is the most pertinent part of the latter.

    Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines and measures to prevent them
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35659687/

    "Abstract
    Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported. These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk factor for infections in critically ill patients."

    https://community.covidvaccineinjuries.com/compilation-peer-reviewed-medical-papers-of-covid-vaccine-injuries/

    1000+

    You may want to look at all of these and then tell me my response is rubbish.

     
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    That's a meta analysis. It suffers from GIGO.
     
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    If enough studies state the same thing, it confirms findings.

    Your statement confirms nothing compared to 18 million except you are ignorant of studies that confirm the findings of other studies.
     
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    The point is that there is nothing about broad analysis that makes something wrong or right. A meta-analysis on viewpoint about the world around the time of Columbus would have just had loads of ignorant "studies" declare it is flat. Numerous RIGOROUS studies have confirmed that reinfection from COVID after a previous infection is profoundly rare and that natural immunity is robust and long lasting. It has proven to be far longer lasting and more robust than any vaccine immunity which actually shouldn't be called immunity at all since it doesn't prevent you from getting sick, dying, being a carrier, etc.

    If you are a true proponent of vaccination then you make sure the bad vaccines are dealt with so that public confidence in vaccination overall remains high and people are willing to use them. We have had bad polio vaccines as an example. We moved on from them. We didn't hide the data or use large numbers to try to dismiss the bad outcomes. We simply did better. These mRNA vaccines for COVID are a gigantic fail. The efficacy of them are measured in weeks on a good day and the efficacy often turns NEGATIVE after several months. Most government agencies have given up reporting on them because they don't want the public aware of the bad outcomes.
     
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    No, I need evidence that such bribes have actually been offered and accepted and that those bribes have led to scientists have falsified data.
     
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    I wonder if you have any actual evidence to back up any of your claims or implications.
     
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    Nah. I say that we don't admit Democrat voters to hospitals. ;) ;)

    Two can play the tyranny game...
     
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    You're okay on what a consensus is, but you obviously don't know what a conspiracy theory is...
     
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    It's
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, it hasn’t
    You’ve posted links to debunked articles, studies that haven’t been peer reviewed or studies that don’t say what you are claiming they say.

    All of this just goes back to the same point I keep making. You don’t have the knowledge, training or experience to know the difference between the BS you post and actual science/medical information.
     
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    I know exactly what a conspiracy theory is.
    The problem is that most who believe conspiracy theories are true don’t know what a conspiracy theory is.
     
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    What about the loonytunes at "America's Frontline Doctors"?
    Yes. And the links typically are contrary to his claims.
     
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    Yes.
    The links usually fall into one of three categories.
    1. information that has already been thoroughly debunked.
    2. Information that is from a study that has not been peer reviewed.
    3. Information from a study that does not say what they claim it is saying.
     
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    I don't present articles and studies, dude. I don't bother with doing any of that stuff because people like you just reject them on sight anyway (if they don't conform with what you already want to believe). I simply form my own arguments instead because I have learned for myself.

    You choose to mindlessly appeal to the thinking of others because you refuse to learn for yourself.
     
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    No you don't, and you (below) continue to demonstrate to this forum that you don't.

    Some conspiracy theories ARE later proven to be true. If you knew what a conspiracy theory was, then you would have realized this instead of operating under the false assumption that all conspiracy theories are untrue.

    YOU don't even know what a conspiracy theory is.
     
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    When this occurs, it's called denialism.
     
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