Phasing out coal is the most significant environmental change the US can make

we need a comprehensive system using solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, tidal, wave , biomass , and hydrogen sources of energy.

we need the electricity grid to have a comprehensive overhaul ( POWER STORAGE)

this will not happen in the u.s. i believe because there are unimaginably rich ppl in the highest of places that will fight it till the death , litteraly i believe they would be willing to polarize and make controversy over the issue till it hits a flash point.

our current system is so unstable and use a FINITE resource. all you A***** need to think of your grand children and great grand children lets make the switch now the tech is there we could put the whole country to work making ourselves 100% independt, left to determine our own fate not relying on something we know is going to run out. Donald Trump says the U.S. cant rebound because of OPEC????!!!?? wow so lets remove the dependence on foreign oil every president for the last 50+ years has said that in state of the unions and we havent done jack.

seriously AGW aside why wouldnt we push for a system that has a limitless (in functional respects because sun goes out - we die , tides and wave stop- something super F'd up is going on) supply ??? All we need to do is maintain a much less sprawled system once its built.

think regional with input. coasts go massive into offshore wind , tidal , and wave. fertile land uses a hyper efficient biomass system incorperating live stock animals, areas close to desert go full solar

and to everyone that thinks like a 7 year old and says " durrr the sun doesnt always shine and wind always blow" think outside the box seriously our entire world is built on principles of evergy transfer. Huge percentages of that energy could be stored through various mediums that are already proven and could be improved upon

We really are asking for it how S.O.L. would we be if we lose all oil out of the middle east in 5 years because rick perry wants to pick a fight with radicals or some event that cant be forseen. And anyone who says run our cars on natural gas has problems A) because fracking is detrimental to surronding areas and B) IF YOUR GOING TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE OVERHAUL WHY NOT MAKE IT LIMITLESS AND SUSTAINABLE??? i.e. hydrogen/electric/ and Bio diesel for heavy equipment.... a 13 year old could make bio diesel with homemade equipment and readily accesible ingredients if he is slightly mechanicly inclined and has a good role model to show him the ropes.
Investment in oil sands and coal-to-liquid fuel is pathetic! Its what the NAZIS did when they had little oil from an unstable source.

You want an example look at the blistering break neck speed china is jumping into renewables with it makes us look pathetic. Do you really think that its because of enviromental concerns and AGW? There is a slight chance maybe but i doubt it. Its because they know fossils wont be around much longer and they will be more expensive and unstable as they run out

If we dont get going on this fast it will be the downfall of the US fossil will be in very very short supple come 2036. we use more and more everyday as we expand. think about it we talk about % expansion of the economy everyday, that is compounded every year....it gets added onto next years expansion.

All you FOX loving nut cases stop making this a partisan thing if you love AMERICA stop fighting renewable so much and jump on board . Your all brainwashed seriously propaganda is alive and well in america and its funded by the people who dont want to see a comprehensive energy switch. Why would the oil and power companies want to see a middle class person who buys dirt cheap , renewable fuel and powers/ heats/ cools his house with something that is totally free after an intial investment. Why in the world would the conservitive actors on fake news programs have such animosity towards an idea like this? because thats what the people who fund them want repeated every day or so

DONT FORGET ANYTHING TO DO WITH ENERGY CHANGE OR THE ENVIRONMENT IS A LEFT WING LIBERAL CONSPIRACY TO END APPLE PIE , BASEBALL, AND YOUR 13mpg IMPORTED FUEL BURNING WAY OF LIFE

 

Is "phasing out" the new euphemism for "government-forced bankruptcy".

 

patrick what did you use to come to the conclusion that phasing out coal with bankrupt our economy? a conclusion like that is something that would require mountains of data to support , its a claim of grandure.

please do us a favor and when you make wild claims have a basis for them included . your propaganda filled brain actually can do alot more than your letting it.

 

Only scientists do not know that one does need mountains of data to support the warning - don't cut the brach you are sitting on.

We are sitting on coal and scientists are sweating to phase it out. We better handcuff them and put in jail before it's too late. Scientists prove again that they represent a clear danger for society.

 

What is the cost effective replacement for coal, that can provide the energy that the US gets from coal (about half to total).

This is like your sky diving instructor stating they are going to phase out parachutes, 10 seconds after yhou left the plane.

I agree, what propaganda are you reading?

 

Where did I say it would bankrupt the economy? Are you drifting into socialists fantasies again. President Obama promised to bankrupt the coal companies and I was asking if "phasing out" was a euphemism for bankruptcy.

Rather like Rep. Waters saying she wants to tax banks into bankruptcy.

Socialists do things like that and I'm just trying to get the new terminology straight. Phasing out=forcing bankruptcy. Right?

Sadly, Independent, I don't think your propaganda filled brain can do more.