Planes, guns, night-vision goggles: The Taliban's new U.S.-made war chest

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  1. Tipper101

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...s-new-us-made-war-chest/ar-AANvhzL?li=BBnb7Kz

    Ho-ly-crap

    so if I’m the Taliban, I would immediately start hiding and dispersing US equipment as quickly as possible to ensure any effort to deny me these invaluable assets is minimized/made impossible.

    I’d also drag my feet like crazy in allowing refugees through to the airport, giving me time to consolidate my positions throughout the country, and generally act nice for the cameras.

    that consolidation should also include rounding up anyone who can teach me how to use all these new vehicles and hardware. That includes skilled and knowledgeable Americans and Afghanis, who will not be allowed to escape the country anytime soon.


    This is some crazy stuff. Thank God we didn’t arm the Afghan government with nukes huh? The Taliban would have those too.

    And we haven’t even come close to reaching the bottom layer of this crap lasagna Biden shat out of his butthole



     
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    So What?
    That should surprise no one.

    To the Victors Go the Spoils...
    Warfare 101...
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were the victors, then voter fraud gave us Biden.
     
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    :roflol:

    Huh?

    Off-Topic Much...:bored:
     
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    On the way to Pakistan. Will be on sale to the highest bidder soon.
     
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    So much for top-secret classified war tech, huh?
     
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    China and Russia will take at least one of everything, pls.

    How the notion of a good extraction from Afghanistan went:

    [​IMG]

    This is uber FUBAR!
     
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  8. Andrew Jackson

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    Totally...
    Probably to some Pakistanis that are going to open a University based on Margaret Sanger's Eugenics Comments.
    *cue copypasta*

    In any event:
    We can't control where the weapons end up, so why worry?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Who was in control of those weapons when the decision was made to leave them behind?
    And how much were they paid to make that decision? ;-)
     
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    I don't see this as a strategic loss, just an economic one and political one. The stuff the Taliban got a hold of isn't super secret military technology, its just top of the line and very expensive.
     
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    yup

    And your vote made this possible

    Democrat votes have consequences; own them
     
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    It’s hard to do that when Donald trump is on your mind 24/7
    It’s hillarious to me these lefties talk about trump the most. I bet they cannot go one day without saying or typing their name
     
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    It isn't my fault that the GOP put up the Worst Candidate in History...
    Lesser of evils, etc...
     
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    you don't know how this works do you? ... and such elegant prose is the last sentence of your post ...

    *facepalm* ... just curious though, do you think the fraud masters were white or OTW? ...

    yup ... ding! ding! ding! ... someones been paying attention the last 35 years ...

    and will be reversed engineered in another country ...
     
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    common, don’t say I don’t know how it works and not expound on it. Now I have to directly ask or stew in my ignorance, as blissful as that is to do
     
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    Wasn't the military we were supposedly training armed?

    No fan of the current admin. But this isn't news.
     
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    of course but they never had any intention of using them ... I'm sure the ANA and the Taliban had a deal n place years ago waiting for this ... I have seen nothing indicating that the ANA even tried to defend a single village or city ...

    the US got played ...
     
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    Obviously, as you’d learn if you read the link, knowing the full extent of what has changed, including what weapons of war the Taliban now possess, is important in knowing what can/will likely happen in the future and therefore what we should do about it now.

    for example, the article does give some silver linings in some of the new weapons the Taliban have, including pointing out a lot of the vehicles, like the helicopters, break down easily and require tons of maintenance and therefore we shouldn’t have to worry too much about it.

    If that’s true, great, but all this should play a role in Biden’s decision making on making strikes on these weapons depots. Right now, however, he’s frozen as all concern is going to the stranded Americans, which yet again brings up the fact that that wouldn’t be an issue if he had executed the withdrawal more competently. So with air strikes frozen, there’s not much chance of us mitigating Taliban gains here, which means what they can and will do with it is a meaningful discussion to have
     
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    To what end? That would like 'reverse engineering' a new Xbox or a new iPhone. Afghanistan isn't somewhere top secret military technology would be used or stored. Its likely the Taliban is in posession of some secret information such as the IDs of informants/operatives, and thats a problem, but theres no evidense or reason to suspect they have any of our classified tech. The tech they got isn't anything they couldn't have bought from Russia or China (or us prolly) for a lot of money. The problem is now they dont have to buy it. No one is going to be 'reverse engineering' it...
     
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    here's the good news, those apes will toss the M16's once it gets dirty and they don't like to clean weapons, hence the AK as the choice for the environment. Sadly they will get a nice choice of optics and bolt action weapons, and NVG's. The ANA totally f***ed up on this and it's of no surprise.
     
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    This means the victors have the legal and practical right to all the spoils they snatched during the war. It says nothing about the former enemy serving up the stuff on a silver platter.
     
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    so years of training the afgans to fight, weaponizing them

    and who do you think they will fight for... the Taliban... not us

    so how is that negotiating with terrorists working out?
     
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    As with any conquering, or re-conquering in this case, there are those on the losing side who will join the conquerors, some who will run, and some who will not be happy and that unhappiness can manifest itself in many ways, including a counter insurgency/rebellion, as we should be very well aware of ourselves.

    The Taliban will look to quash dissent, and certainly the lie being thrown around that the Afghanis en masse don’t want to fight is bogus and a spitball on the graves of the 70 thousand soldier deaths they’ve suffered.

    so there is no doubt in my mind that a rebellion can happen. 40 million people is tough to corral completely, especially when they’ve had 20 years of tasting how things could be different. That’s an entire generation of Afghans. That’s why the Taliban playing nice to the cameras is BS in my mind, because they are, without doubt, itching to start wiping out everyone they think might be a problem later
     
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    well I know what we left, surely no F-35s or nukes but worried about encryption tech possibly carried by internal Afghan ops who were probably compromised before any of this went down ... and this is why I agree with you on the informants/ops/networks ...

    it was bad form to trust ANYONE with classified intel in a tribal country ... not a partisan issue ... bad decisions going way back and the money trail stinks of dead flesh ...
     
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    It was a massive blunder to be sure. But so was taking 20 years to do it... We should've pulled out carefully long ago. ...but I'll take the blunder of pulling out hastily and Fing it all up over staying.
     
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