Polish Intervention in Syria (questionable)

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  1. aspagnito

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    Did YOu know, that Poland was the first country to support USA in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? We really do bielieve that was really necessary and people may speak b.s. about NASA visiting Moon in a garage, but nobody will convince Central Europe that was not our war. We fought for something real. What did we get from America. Old F16 and a promise of a nuclear shield never came true. We, the Central Europe - YOu do not know about us. Poland and Lech Wałęsa liberated the world from the communism, not the "fall of Berlin wall". The Iron Curtain was about the WARSAW pact and we did do that. Every Central European will say that "tripple is good" so we CAN help YOu, but right now we know money means responsibility. Like I would like to go to the USA without visa and I still cannot. Why?
    Why does President (one of the greatest) Barack Obama visit Russia and England when Russia still just has palaces, but no money and they do not even wish to admit they're a.broke. Just like Great Britain.
    Poland doesn't say no. We complain a lot, cause we're very selfcritical, but we made pur lesson. The first constitutions of the world were the consttution of the USA and Polish. We demand respect and when Polish President says "no right now", he admits, that he doesn't have a custom of calling President Obama every morning and evening. The simple question is why because nobody in the world cries so much about a dying black man than a Central European... no matter how our "constructivism" sounds like. Simple as that. Presdent Obama has probably the greatest respect in Poland, but when two people never talk, they probably hate each other.
    Well. Do not cheat YOurself. YOu need an ally. Once YOu get one real ally and I can tell YOu, YOu'll need to negotiate about it more than YOu do now, others will join... and be reasonable. There are still young tigers with money from notheing that just want priviliges or conrete promises.
    Round table in Russia? That's a little bit of misunderstanding. Why does Obama get so freaky, when He sees Russian snobism of setting his chair further than Putin. That's funny because YOu really do not know nothing about Russia. They may seem very rich but the truth is capitalism is not even as little bit stable as America in the WILD WILD WEST!
    And one thing sympathical. There's a rumour about a Happy Birthday song and it is kinda funny, because I have something better. My mother doesn't speak English, but She sometimes tries. So the new version (open source for everybody - do notica that) is:
    "Hurry Burry chew YOu! Hurry Burry chew YOu! Hurry Burry, Hurry Burry, Hurry Burry chew YOU!!!"
    Why open source? Because one can always add "Mister President" inside.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    maybe Poland is playing the handout roll here, by showing support now there will be a payback by the obama administration afterwards.
     
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    Excuse me But the Australian Government has that Infamy.Prime Minister Howard was on the phone to Bush ,pledging support.

    We are still to have that question discussed in the parliament BTW!

    The Coalition of willing Servile stooges of US Imperialism ,Australia, Poland and Gt Britain.

    Knock Australia [middle of election ,couldn't make G20]and the Vote against,Cameron .
     
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    There are options and no one is coersed,
    as always it is based on principles, but the humanitarian oriented ones are always of the best option.
    We are all passers by and it is quite sublime if we do contribute towards the betterment of humanity,
    and be remembered as such.
     
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    My family was Polish and were WW2 refugees. Until his dying day my father spoke of his disgust at the humiliating betrayal by Poland's 'allies', in doing a deal with Stalin to divide Poland in 'gratitude' for fighting against Hitler.
    Polish military were also forbidden to take part in the VE-Day marches through London-again for fear of upsetting Stalin. Poland should play no part in Obama's mad rush to war; it has more than enough domestic problems to deal with as it is.
    Jeszcze Polska nie zginela kiedy my zyjemy!
     
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    Yeah leaving Stalin half of Europe was a very dumb decision and completely unnecessary. There was no logical reason to not have the borders go back to what they were prewar but some people just wanted WW2 to go away so badly that they didn't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about what happened to people in Eastern Europe. To this day I do not get why we allowed Stalin to march into Berlin even though we could have gotten their first. Japan was no longer a major threat after we took out their Navy for all practical purposes and we could have easily pushed Stalin back to his borders.

    Everyone knew Stalin and Communism were a threat and they had a chance to seriously curtail its base of power right from the get go. It made sense for the UK and France and other Western European countries from a strategic point to have as many "free" countries acting as buffers in between them and the Red Army.
     
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    if the us troops enter Berlin most of the German forces would of laid down there arms it would of been a roll over by us, but as you know the Russians wanted the Germans to pay and they sent in the worse troops
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    http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/berlin.htm
    to rape and butchered the civilians and the Germans fought back to the death and millions died on both sides.
     
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    you can calm down your father, the second polish republic was a classical apartheid(some will call it fascist) state , with the concentration camps , illegal settlements, 1000s limitation for majority ,Polonization , etc. i talk about the western Belarus/Ukraine/Lithuania so called Kresy which itself a resist term. so Stalin and allies helped humanity when they disbanding this fascist state

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bereza_Kartuska_prison
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Ukrainians_in_Eastern_Galicia_(1930)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists
     
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    show statistic, that Asiatic people have dominated the red army .

    mass-rape is a myth, sally use by neo Nazis
     
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    I hope not only that. We've learnt to think in a more flexible way. Like there comes a guy and turns the SCREW more and more. We might cry, but the truth is we're thankful for the real perspectives and not only "easy life". More or less.
    A joke?
    - Why does Polish people are so reasonable?
    - Because 95% of Polish marriages are the so called "reasonable marriages", so we have to be reasonable.
    By the way. That's a drama, because anywhere YOu look, all YOu see is just "Snow White".
    I mean watch a video of Emperor Hirohito, that joined Hitler while the WW2 if YOu're showing Japaneese People. That was a reasonable deicision. YOu'd have a different mind about the WW2 if YOu knew the real story of Enigma and not just Hollywood pictures about it. It is always better to sin and regret, than regret even more YOu've not sinned.
     
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    And YOur telling somebody to calm down? Since when WIKI tells the whole truth? It is always difficult an' YOu seem to use some pictures and images of fake situations. I am not telling YOu how to be such a dick.
     
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    The rare case I agree with you, litwin. There was no fundamental difference between Poland and Nazi Germany in late 30-s.
     
  14. litwin

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    many of my family lived in fake "eastern Poland" so i know about this subject much more then you know . How can BBC call western Belarus/Ukraine/Lithuania for Kresy when in 43 out of 44 districts of the western Ukraine the Poles were minority? Why do not you call Nigeria for England?
     
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    Eternal Polish problemss - "Where is my saber, and what happened within yesterday?"
     
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    it ´d be more often if you ´d not act like Poskrebyshev 9 times out of 10. back on topic , Poles say "we got stabbed in the back by Red army",...ok, but did not Poles stabbed Czechoslovakia a year before? the Poles got a full bingo with Stalin victory : loooooong coastline , huge parts of Germany , even Belastok Voblast, all know the drunk story how Poles "got" piece of Bielaviezskaja Pusca , whats funny here that western Nazis call BP still by polish name even though that Belarusian part is 15 times more then polish one. Poles were very close to "get" from unlace Kobo even Vinia/Vilnius . territorial restitution is impossible in this region, everyone knows it, except some polish ww2 immigrants
     
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    ah our political leaders in the us at that time wanted to put the third Reich in the graveyard forever and they knew our solders wouldn't have the stomach for it so they let the Russians take berlin, knowing they would have no mercy on the civilians. patton knew this also
    [video=youtube;ELg1Jh0EcNs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELg1Jh0EcNs[/video]
     
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    Hilter once wanted to be a fashion designer. He climbed a great dream, but his Grandpa, that was a jew came to him and as a Jew He knew what to do... to calm Hitler down. But Hitler did not forgot the great dream and instead of fashion he started to be interested in FASHISM.
    But as the time came Hitler wanted to have a "Wunderwaffe", but no-one around was able to give that to him. So ask a Pole a question - a Pole will always give YOu one. We invented Enigma, even though the rumours where, Polish scientist broke the code. Why this was a "Perfect Weapon", because still if no-body knew how it works, one might engage all of the computers these days and they would work for bazillions of years still not having a sollution. That was enough for Hitler, whose scientist thought he can win thanks to the dogs able to speak. He hed his perfect weapon. It's not funny at all, because lots of people died in this conspiracy and one General had to do the Machiavelli stuff and fake to die. All that's left is "Whistler's Raport".
    People here tell different stuff without prooves gone long time ago. Like the place I live in, close to Lubiąż, where Michael Jackson wanted to buy this castle... there are 25 miles of underground coridors, but the entries were destroyed by Russia. The only entry still able to use is close to "Wały", an "Old Entry", on the other side of Odra river, that separates us from Germany right now. Why it's worth considering? Because some people claim they went there and that's the place where Nazis have hidden the greatest treasures of the German Reich... like the "Amber Comnat".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubiąż_Abbey
     
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    And YOu're acting like there was Paradise all over the world... just like in the States? What does the Syria leader say? Attack us and we will fight back! YOu think negotiations will help? I admire Barack Obama, probably like nobody in the world, 'cause he is fighting for something real right now, and nobody supports HIM.
    Well a Pole will always say that a Black Man is fascinated a simple tin plate the most. Why? 'Cause He cares! YOu on't. Living on the top of the world at a fast lane! What about these kids? What about Christians araound that place? All YOu can to is wonder. That is why they beat Black People in America, and that is why YOu kill Indians for Gas.
    Ignorance is a bliss and a sweet blessing.
     
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    Why does Joe Biden calls the Prome Minister of Poland./ He even has no support from the country. The President of Poland is responsible for our army and should be responsible for the conspiracy. Instead of that YOu engage YOurself in dirty games of PO.
     
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    What is PO mean?
     
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    i m still wandering ...you are a genius or you just need a mental care . buy the way you can bomb or stay away from this mess it ´ll change nothing
     
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    I thank for the genious and I do need mental care, but this is none of YOur buisiness. Americans right now know the case is not solved yet and YOu having a comfort of speaking LOUD at this forum should know that some people do not have that right... and that is wrong!
     
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    Platforma Obywatelska... meaning "Citizen Platform". The liberal side. We know we cannot deal without PO, but there should be a three party division to Polska Partia Koserwatystów and Centrolewica Polska. The centre-left (something like the U.S. Democrats differs that the left side. They no longer "support intervetionism", but include human factor in system sollution and give restricted help to the weaker.
     
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    i see your point, i m sure that the majority poles support you on this subject
     

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