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Is this a mismanagement of taxpayer money?

  1. Yes;: there are Felon criminals that need to be investigated

    80.0%
  2. Yes; the political race hate is not worth it

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  3. No; race had nothing to do with it

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  4. No; a million bucks is cheap for one arrest

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  1. Clint Torres

    Clint Torres New Member

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    Is this the way to spend over 2 years and a million dollars to arrest one offender? A misdemenor offender at that.

    Why not go after felons?

    Appears a non violent misdormenaor is a very expensive crime in AZ.

    Do a search on the youtub for "JOE ARPRIO'S HUGE RAID NETTING 1 MAID"


    http://youtu.be/MveinS1jvLE

    Looks like the Swat was ready to take down armed millita, but netted one maid while nine others escaped.


    What are the so called policies for "Probable Cause"

    Another reason not to travel through AZ?
    Or A reson the beverly hillbillies should not inbreed and run for office?
     
  2. Clint Torres

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MveinS1jvLE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Here it is.

    Try youtube search

    Joe Arpaio's Huge raid netting 1 maid
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    The day we as a world eliminate borders and just treat people as people and criminals as criminals is the day we will finally be free.

    I don't know why more conservatives don't back this. It's like a free market for governments. Governments would have to compete for the best policies to get more tax payers moving into their country. All they have to do is register for employment. Punish employers for not hiring registered workers and simply give unregistered workers a slap on the wrist and a registration form.

    If we're truly a free country then people should be free to live and work here.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as long as they do not get to use our welfare and schools
     
  5. Clint Torres

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    That is true, and you are correct IMO.
    But the media propaganda like to demonize people and keep the massess hating on eachother. Reason for this is, those who control the media do not want the massess joining forces and focusing on their manipulative behavior.

    And as long as the media and political manipulators can get away with profiting off the public and manipulating them to no end. The manipulators will rule over them.

    This AZ state government is prime example of what happens when you get this type of people in charge. Out for profit and they want people to fear them.
     
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    I have no problems if they pay for it. But would it not be cheaper the other way around?
     
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    This would have been the ideal time to use that expensive raid to go after the owner of the day's in and arrest them for the feoloy of human trafficing and hiring one illegal alien. No?
     
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    Source???


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    Joe has captured well over 1 maid during his work.

    Also, how do you feel about Fast and Furious since this upsets you so very much?

    How many Mexicans and U.S. Agents did Sheriff Joe get murdered with his operation?
     
  10. Clint Torres

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    CBS local news in AZ.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't say what you are suggesting.

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  12. Clint Torres

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    What is it that I'm suggesting? Waste of taxpayer money is what my purpose was. Or what does it look like I'm suggesting?
     
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    You are suggesting facts that are not in the video.

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    Clint... if you are so upset about this $1 Million Dollars, please tell us how you feel about:

    • the 3 year investigation that cost over 10X the $1 Million Dollars the U.S. DOJ did from the time Barack Obama stepped into office against Sheriff Joe?
    • Fast and Furious which cost over 10X the $1 Million Dollars and resulted in hundreds of murdered Mexicans and murdered U.S. Agents?

    Please let us know that you are not engaged in massive hypocrisy.
     
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    I have no gripes with fast and furious. It too is a waste of money.

    I have no clue on the true numbers. But looks like their Local Network broadcast is showing how some of the AZ people view their politicians and the way they manage the tax money.

    Going after armed criminals is very different from going after a minimum wage worker in a Days IN. And what about the laws of hiring illegal workers?

    The criminal who hired the Maid should also be brought to trial for over a million dollars.
     
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    The Mexican Plolicia and Federal capture more guns in Mexico for less, they should have cut spending on that and paid the Mexican government a tenth of that to capture more guns ammo, and US money.
     
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    They say it cost over a million and over 2 years to make this raid. What facts do you get from this video?

    Tell me what it is you see me suggesting, and ill try to repost this poll. To get the opinions of people.
     
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    I'm not upset, as these things do not upset me. This shows how State governments spend their money and th people in charge are benifiting from it. Do you see past the emotion of it?
     
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    Tell me what it is you see me suggesting, and ill try to repost this poll. To get the opinions of people.
     
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    So you are cool with the way Sheriff Joe spent $1 Million and the way Barack Obama spent $20 Million + ????

    No real emotion here... Barack Obama only got about 200 Mexicans killed and a few U.S. Agents. I am sure their families are not emotional about it either.
     
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    You are mistaken yet again. Don't let the emotions of this issue to overcome thinking. What you are saying is backward on what I have been saying. LOL..

    Read the above post again. you will see your errors.
     
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    Please read the thread before posting rants that will embarrass yorself.

    Thanks.
     
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    Schools are paid for in property taxes. And welfare is paid for through payroll taxes. Both of which legal immigrants pay (And they all would be legal under my plan)

    So why shouldn't they be allowed to attend school or collect welfare? They pay the same they should get the same.
     
  24. Clint Torres

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    I agree.

    Any worker dispite race or looks who have a job is highly unlikely to be on welfare. And if they are illegal, they don't qualify for unemployment or welfare. They require citiizenship checks as it is on the application. At the State level, the illegals will be required to prove citizenship, Hence the opportunity to arrest them.

    Also, public schools in the USA are such a failure, the attendance of immagrants does not really matter, ast the cost is not reflective of the schools performance.

    However less kids in a class would make educators lives much much easier. If they could only reduce public school calss size down to 4 of 5 kids, their jobs would still be too hard.
     
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    You are making zero sense.

    Your dodging and hypocrisy is noted.
     

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