Prediction-a gun banning feeding Frenzy will happen shortly

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Oct 25, 2023.

  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The laws reflect in the culture. So America's is about the gun, not the idiots in poor control of them. Other places, it's about the person.

    I'm gobsmacked I'm having to explain the obvious.
     
  2. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it should ament the constitution, bring it up to date. The US pinched the UK's Bill of Rights way back, it's just that, it's been updated to reflect society as times change. Times have been changing in the us, but they're stuck with an outdated constitution, hence the dreadful gun stats.
     
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    The difference you claim does not exist.
    Every US gun control law revolves around the person.
     
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    The US government cannot amend the US constitution.
    You cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship you claim
     
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  5. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why are the gun stats of white Americans not very different than white Brits given white Americans are the best armed private citizens in the world, and white Brits are not trusted to own handguns or semi auto rifles by their masters
     
  6. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brits have hand guns, the stock + barrel length has to be over a certain length.

    If I posted a UK gun law video that lasts 10 mins max, would you watch it? It's just that, if Americans etc.. did watch it, I would avoid such posts as yours forever and a day.

    It's as though, Americans are not interested in knowing anything outside of their borders, or they do but choose to flamebait. Which is it?
     
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  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Brits cannot own normal handguns. I have shot several times in Somerset/Exmoor and have represented the USA as a skeet shooter over there. I had long conversations with a former SAS member who then became an armed constable after his military service. He was active during the Brixton Riots
     
  8. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet again, would you like me to post the video, your posts are embarrassing. If you think you shot in Somerset and Exmoor, I suggest you were dreaming.

    Do you know what guns are legal in the UK ?

    I would guess - No.
     
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    I did not know that some of this was legal although I would have to say a pistol that yes I have a footlong barrel isn't exactly a pistol I would put that in the category of carbine.
     
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  11. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hat off to you for looking at the video, you're probably one of the very few that has done so and it is surprising what guns you can own in the UK, but, only if you have a suitable background.
     
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  12. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I was shooting Partridge. Look up John Marshall-Chargot* is the name of his shooting property. And Milton's. then get back to me. Go ahead post your stupid video. We all know about the reactionary bed wetting Britain suffered in reaction to Dunblane. Can you buy an AR 15 in England as a private citizen? A glock 17 or a Smith and Wesson 357 Revolver with a 4" barrel?


    http://www.spanieljournal.com/2ddibblee.html

    READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH
     
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    1) a privilege not a right
    2) extremely tough laws
    3) Irish cannot take guns to England
    4) "good reason to own a firearm"
    5) bureaucrats can decide "good reason" arbitrarily
    6) High powered AIRGUNS require a license
    7) LONG BARRELED 30CM handguns are allowed but that is a barrel ALMOST A FOOT LONG. centerfire handguns shorter than that ARE BANNED
    8) No centerfire pump action or Semi automatic rifle

    So what exactly did this prove-you cannot own normal handguns
    You cannot own semi auto centerfire rifles
     
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  14. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the UZI they picture is a rimfire copy of an Uzi.
     
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    I'm quite interested in UK and how they're different than the US
     
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    Kind of cool
     
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    yeah but it was clearly a bit dishonest-because it looks like a real class III UZI SMG
     
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    anyone here have a pistol with a barrel longer than say 8"? I sure don't.
     
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    2a.joker.jpg

    You mean like this?
     
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    I do.
    8.375".
    S&W 629 DX

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    I have handled and shot over 1000 different handguns. Other than some of the AR 15 rigs, I have never ever seen a handgun with a barrel over 11"
     
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    that still wouldn't be legal in England, and those are few and far between. I just went into three different big gun dealers in the last week-none of them had any handguns -other than a couple AR 15s that are part of the pistol brace BS that came close to 30CM long barrels
     
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    My 5.56" ARP is 10.5"
    A friend has an ARP in .450 - 12.5"
     
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    let's both note that the UK essentially bans almost all handguns and the stuff they don't ban is not the sort of handgun you will find in most stores or being used in traditional pistol pursuits.

    I am a life member in USPSA, NRA, USA Shooting and none of the events they sponsor use handguns with 11" barrels. Not USPA, not Steel Challenge, not NRA Bullseye or Bianchi cup. Not DCM nor the Camp Perry (McMillan Cup) national matches. Those pistols were an end around the SBR bullshit laws
     
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    Because firearms engineers are smarter than anti-gun liberals.
     
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