Public executions and torture: ‘The Taliban have reverted to their true ...

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Public executions and torture: ‘The Taliban have reverted to their true nature’

In the latest example of public punishments carried out by the Taliban, two men were forced to wear a chador, a full-length hijab traditionally worn by women as a form of public "humiliation". But other punishments meted out by the Taliban have been far more violent, including flagellations and public executions. While Afghan activists have documented dozens of public punishments since October 2022, video evidence of them is scarce – only two videos document these brutal tactics.

We can thank Joe Biden for this. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Although it can be understood perhaps that the commitment in Afghanistan should not be indefinate there was no reason to flee Bagram airport in the middle of the night or not to conduct an orderly and well managed pull out. Biden dishonered the sacrifice of the thousands of American soldier killed or wounded fighting in Afghanistan. It should be noted that there was only one member of Congress that voted against the war in Afghanistan. The war was won when Biden conducted his cowardly and dishonorable withdrawal. He can't even show respect for the soldiers he got killed as a direct result of his abandonment of Bagram, i.e., looking at his watch in a bored manner during their funeral. And for the whatabout Trump crowd, the midnight flight took place under the leadership of Joe Biden. An athlete who dodged the Vietnam draft due to claimed asthma. Many of the afghans, e.g., interpreters who aligned with the US have been abandoned to their fate by Biden by being denied US VISAs. What message does this send for those who help the US in future wars. The Biden afghan disaster is a hallmark of his administration.

 

How many more years, trillions of dollars and Americans troops lives should we be willing to spend on a nation that will always revert back to this.

Remember this Americans, once you lose your nation to religious extremism that believe they are acting in the name of god it is next to impossible to ever reclaim.

 

Not our problem much like Ukraine shouldn't be.

 

Funny you say this...

You're getting tricked by your partisan media. Fascinating ideology indeed.

 

"Psychotic fundamentalist group known for harsh punishments reverts to being psychotic fundamentalist group known for harsh punishments."

Water is also wet.

 

A couple of questions before we proceed:

Do you comprehend the difference between a billion and a trillion?

How many American troops have been lost in Ukraine/Russia?

 

Thank god Biden armed them to the teeth...

 

How much and how long do you think we should send our taxpayer dollars to Ukraine?

How much have we sent them so far?

Should we really be provoking a world nuclear superpower by engaging in an open proxy war against them?

Remember when we used to do such a thing using the CIA and keep it somewhat on the down low? So we had a little bit of plausible deniability instead of engaging in an open proxy war?

 

It's all good as long as a democrat is in charge.

 

Winning the war in Afghanistan was easy. Our problem was we had no real plan for what comes next. Frankly...we armed and empowered the wrong people. We should have armed the women and put them in charge. They ultimately had the most to lose with a return of the Taliban.

 

Trump was the one who negotiated surrender with the Taliban, cutting our allies in Afghanistan out of the deliberations. HE LITERALLY BRAGGED THAT HE KNEW THAT AFGHANISTAN WOULD FALL AFTER OUR WITHDRAWAL, THAT THE WITHDRAWAL WAS HIS PLAN, AND THAT BIDEN COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HE. ****ING. BRAGGED. ABOUT. IT.

 

What do you think Biden should have done differently, that would have prevented this?

 

We need to be constantly doing a cost to benefit analysis. While I definitely don’t think it should go on forever it is important to note that this is destabilizing an enemy foreign nation that has frequently attacked our nation via cyber attacks including our energy grid, voting systems and banking.

I think after around the 2 - 2.5 year mark we need to do some serious reevaluation.

Different sources show different amounts. The most comprehensive list I can find shows about 70B in direct military aid and around 50B in humanitarian aid.

Ukraine was given assurances to give up their nuclear arsenal. The alternative of saying you are on your on to being invaded by a much larger hostile military force and the message that sends to the invading nation hasn’t been a net positive from a historical perspective.

Most of the developed world is doing it. Nations that have remained natural for centuries have started joining NATO (which in itself is another huge win) — everyone can see the writing on the wall of Russia is allowed to be the next Germany — the only nations not wanting to be involved are the ones that financially benefit from Russia.

Do you believe the US should not be aiding Ukraine in any way? What about the next nation Russia deems needing “liberation”? At what point do you believe intervention would be required.

Also note the differences between the Islamic nations and Ukraine, one is fighting an internal enemy that is involved in every area of life while the other is fighting an external enemy.

 

What are you talking about. Trump was the one who signed our unconditional surrender!

In fact, he ORDERED a quick and immediate withdrawal. But the military disobeyed the crazy order that would have produced thousands of American dead among contractors and military personnel.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...hdrawal-from-afghanistan-after-election-loss/

 

Remember this government doesn't want you or me or any other citizen to have so-called assault rifles but they left 600,000 of them to the Taliban..... Actual real assault rifles as in select fire weapons.

They don't want armed Americans but they have no problem arming America's enemies

 

Whataboutism, Much?
And, as to the actual OP Topic:
What could Biden have done different? Exactly?

 

What on Earth are you talking about? Are you confused about the thread topic and the fact that I'm talking about the Taliban?

That is the actual topic so you might want to stick with it

 

That was terrible!
If it were true.

 

$80B worth of arms doesn't lie....

 

Biden couldn't do anything about it? lol

Who is responsible for the Bagram evacuation that took place in the middle of the night without notifying the Afgan government? Was that Joe Biden or someone else? Do you understand that conducting an evacuation from Kabul got American soldiers killed?

 

Damn, why would trump ever let these guys out then negotiate with them? Crazy!

 

Lol what Afghan govt? Trump didn’t even bother negotiating with them, just the Taliban

 

Even liberal CNN, aka Communist News Network says 7 Billion of arms left behind by Joe Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html

Here is the lesson from Biden for future allies.

 

So Biden was just following Trump's orders? Couldn't do anything about it? What BS. Biden reversed many Trump decisions and policies. He certainly didn't have a problem reversing Trump's decision on deporting 11 million illegals.

I guess you perhaps forgot that Biden campaigned on reversing Trump's foreign policy decisions? It is absurd to say he had to follow Trump's afghan policy. Are you aware that Biden reversed Trump's plan to withdraw troops from Germany.

 

I definitely agree that Biden should have tried to fix some of Trump's mistakes before executing on Trump's plan, as I've said before.