Question about climate change

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Ronstar, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    So, you’re now smarter then every university in the entire world, right ? Did you go to one ? You’re smarter then everyother country, every major Corp in our own country. You’re getting really rediculous. Show any one that supports you in the entire world.
     
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    Fossil fuels are clean per clean air regulations. It is immoral to deny the benefits of fossil fuels based on global warming alarmism which is actually beneficial.
     
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    Do your homework.
     
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    Mechanical, electrical and processing jobs in relation to natural gas, oil, wells, refining, and transportation. Coal isn't as common.
     
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    Exactly. Spain committed to green energy a couple of decades ago and did great economic harm to their country. Denmark and Germany have done the same.
     
  6. dagosa

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    So, you don’t believe
    https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html
    Or you can’t read. Which is it ?
     
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    China is selling solar and wind to the west and making money whilst the western democracies reduce their economic growth.
     
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    You think if someone tells you the level rose a foot in the last 100 years, it must have risen the same amount every year ?
    This, even though https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

    Says the rate increased every year. Huh ? You can’t be serious ?
     
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    You already tried this. It makes my case. BTW satellite measurements of sea level are not reliable. What is claimed as higher rates is falsely claimed by splicing satellite measurements onto tide stations. That is dishonest.
     
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    Huh ? That’s a convoluted nothing burger.
     
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    That’s the same article which makes my point.
     
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    That’s a part of the Chinese world domination strategy. The Chinese a few years ago correctly determined that global warming was not a problem. They suddenly changed their tune to exploit the alarmist western democracies.
     
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    How does it make your case when the second line says, the rate is increasing. (
    Yes, sea level is rising at an increasing rate.)
    You don’t know what that means do you ? When rate increases, it’s called acceleration.
    Try reading it again. It’s high school math.
    Now, click and read. No where does it say the change is “constant.”

    https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html
     
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    Just because you don’t know math and science, don’t assume the Chinese don’t either.
     
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    You can’t be serious. You keep making those statements with no reference; are you ashamed or are you afraid someone can read them when you can’t.
     
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    In your diluted dreams. Just because you can’t read the statement :
    Yes, sea level is rising at an increasing rate.


    Don’t blame me because you slepted through English class.
     
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    A lot of rambling, we know what each word means individually.,
     
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    It’s rising at a rate of 1/8” per year which is 2mm per year. Your article clearly states that. There is no data to support the false claim that the rate is rising.
     
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    That’s hilarious. BTW the Chinese clearly know exactly what they are doing and are laughing hysterically at the alarmist western democracies.
     
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    I am suggesting that you do your homework.
     
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    What are the data that support that statement ?? There aren’t any. The article clearly states that the rate of sea level rise is ~ 1/8” (~ 2 mm) per year.
     
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    You refer to “we” and “our” in the context of a 600 million year time frame
    I think that modern have not even been around for 1million years.

    If your “we” reference ie a reference to the earth and all life upon it.... you are right that the earth has gone through all sorts of cycles and will get along just fine

    I think climate “alarmists” are more concerned about the comfortable climate in which we humans evolved and flourished. Of course there is no reason why we should be overly concerned to maintain that climate. No doubt any climate over the last 600 million years would be equally suitable for the “we” to which you refer
     
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    Ha ha, you need a reading class. The entire article explains how the change occurs erratically but increases. Read this paragraph carefully at the bottom from the article.

    In one decade from 1993, the level increased 2,6 inches, that’s .24 or 1/4 inch per year . SINCE 2014, it has still increased back to a rate of 1/8 inch per year. Therefore THE AVERAGE increase per year over 100 years is going up. The increase in the rate IS NOT CONSTANT. But it always goes up by at least 1/8 inch and in some decades are higher. Look at the graphs. Slope represents rate and the slope changes, is always 1/8 or greater. So over all the rate of global change is to increasing on average.
    Global is not local as well. This is HS advanced math idea. If you don’t remember it, don’t blame me. The RATE is INCREASING. The change in the rate varies.

    *The global sea level been rising over the past century, and the rate has increased in recent decades. In 2014, global sea level was 2.6 inches above the 1993 average—the highest annual average in the satellite record (1993-present). Sea level continues to rise at a rate of about one-eighth of an inch per year.*
     
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    This is why you guys are so gullible.....you need HS math. Look at previous post.
     
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    It may be that you are getting confused by thinking that co2 is the ONLY driver of climate change.
    There are all sorts of factors that can and do drive climatic temperature fluctuations.
    Such factors include various types changes in the earths orbit


    According to science, Co2 is one of many inter related factors that can impact climate variatios
    It is also a factor that we humans are tampering with
    The impact of our tampering is of course debated
     

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