Race and Crime

Yes, I 100% agree that if official policies or practices are racially discriminatory, action should be taken to eliminate such policies or practices! Don't you agree with that?

 

No. Because HRW considers ANY policy or practice that produces a racial disparity that disfavors blacks as "racially discriminatory". I dont buy into the CRT BS that you 100% agree with.

 

I highly probably did. Even you quoted my source about structural racism in post 1152.

You quoted my source in post 1152 that them policies must end.

I gave a link / can lead a horse to water, can't make it drink.

 

I'm talking about ACTUAL racial discrimination, not as defined by the left!

 

There is nothing about racial profiling in that quote.

There is nothing about American governmental agencies in that quote.

Uh, you've already admitted that you did not quote from the US sentencing commission!

 

The left, CRT, HRW and you according to your previous post.

 

You do believe that there CAN be such a thing as ACTUAL racial discrimination, don't you?

 

Sure, lots of individuals discriminate on the basis of race. BUT, the police responding to citizen complaints of drugs being sold out in the open and the racial disparity they encounter when doing so IS NOT discrimination by individual police and IS NOT institutional or structural racism against blacks.

 

I agree. Again, I 100% agree that if official policies or practices are racially discriminatory, action should be taken to eliminate such policies or practices! Don't you agree with that?

 

It's mentioned in the HRW source,... extensively.

They do the racial profiling, mentioned extensively in the HRW source.

So what that I didn't quote. Why should I?
Racial profiling is mentioned 14 times by HRW. Why on earth should I quote it all of all of it?

I gave my sourcing proving systemic racism, with 7 sources.
You got nothing to dispute, except rant on questions about my sources leading nowhere.

 

I'll do it for you.

"There are many reasons for the racial disparities in drug arrests, including demographics,[55] the extent of community complaints, police allocation of resources,[56] racial profiling,[57] and the relative ease of making drug arrests in minority urban areas compared to white areas.[58] One analyst has observed that in the war on drugs:

Racial profiling is almost inevitable. Race becomes one of the readily observable visual clues to help identify drug suspects, along with age, gender and location. There is a certain rationality to this-if you are in poor black neighborhoods, drug dealers are more likely to be black. Local distribution networks are often monoracial; downscale markets are often neighborhood-based; and downscale urban neighborhoods are often segregated . . . . The law and practice of drug enforcement is market-specific, and the markets are divided by race and class.[59]"

So when the police get complaint calls on a bunch of "black" guys selling drugs on the street outside the callers home, and the police respond by looking for black guys selling drugs on the street, which will have a disparate impact upon blacks, HRW labels this racism. Even though the intent of the police is to serve the needs of the citizens making the complaint, CRT and HRW argue that the intent is irrelevant. Only the results determines if racism exist. If it has a disparate impact upon blacks, it is by definition structural racism.

 

Well first of all, that's not what racially profiling is about. And second of all, you make it seem the war on drugs is something that cops don't do a thing since they wait till somebody gives them a tip. ... which is not anywhere close to reality.

 

I and HRW disagree.

 

Your example how racial profiling works is not there in HRW. So you can claim HRW agrees with your idea all you want, but it's fiction.

 

And yet you did not quote anything about racial profiling. Simple!

And yet you did not quote anything about American governmental agencies doing the racial profiling. Simple!

So then why did you mention the US sentencing commission?

 

I don't see why that matters. I gave my sources. I proved my point that systemic racism is true.

You're not responding to my questions.

 

Its right there in the quote I provided. You are detached from reality again.

 

The "So when the police get complaint calls on a bunch of "black" guys selling drugs on the street outside the callers home, and the police respond by looking for black guys selling drugs on the street, which will have a disparate impact upon blacks, HRW labels this racism." is not a quote from my source. So your claim that HRW would label it as racial profiling is pure fiction.

 

I of course was referring to what I quoted
"Racial profiling is almost inevitable. Race becomes one of the readily observable visual clues to help identify drug suspects, along with age, gender and location."
When drug dealing "suspects" are identified by the caller as black males, the police go out looking for black males. AND can be expected to have a disparate impact upon black males.

 

If there was anything in your sources about racial profiling, and American governmental agencies doing the racial profiling, you would have quoted it already! Simple!

You specified the US sentencing commission, which is not mentioned in the HRW article.

 

You can easily search the linked to article and see the 14 references to "profiling".

Race, Drugs, and Law Enforcement in the United States | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)

Unless arguing about it for another week was your intent

 

I'm trying to get him to quote for themselves in making their argument.

 

I told you that racial profiling is mentioned there 14 times. So I regard it as trolling and utterly childish to demand I quote it all in context. That would involve to quote about the entire article... while you got the link to it.

And so I remark, that you got nothing to dispute. You got no argument and resort to childishly trolling around.

dito.

 

If this has been said before i apologise. I have not read all the replies.

What you leave out is the universal genetic trait of a tendency to fight against "unfair inequalities" within a tribe...in other words , your immediate social circle/geographical environment.
In history all those of any race or faith who have been deprived of equal status have had to be physically subdued or they revolt.

This has not stopped.

This has not been genetically engineered out of any population of any description.

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If there was anything in your sources about American governmental agencies doing the racial profiling, you would have quoted it already! Simple!

You specified the US sentencing commission, which is not mentioned in the HRW article.