Racial Ignorance; Willingness To Learn Both Sides Of The Story

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Zook, Oct 15, 2011.

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Have you ever visited a racist website and spent time listening to the viewpoints of

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I don't want to say

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  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    Ignorance is defined in the dictionary as such...

    It is of my opinion (and the opinion of most racists) that anti-racists are deeply ignorant. They usually grow up in majority White neighborhoods and live life holding only one opinion/belief having never researched racism properly through the eyes of racists themselves or never having lived amongst a large population of another race of people.

    Me, I grew up as a staunch anti-racist living in a vastly black majority hellhole. I hated racism and wanted so desperately for all races to live as one in perfect harmony. As I grew up around mainly blacks I began to learn that could never become a reality... and only one race was to blame... blacks. As an adult, I am now a proud racist.

    I have lived life holding complete opposite ends of the spectrum views on race. I have vast experience... have you?

    My question is this. As an anti-racist, have you ever visited a racist website and listened to the viewpoints of racists themselves? Have you the patience, rationality or the maturity to try? It does come down to maturity really... it's really easy to see the N word and say "this ain't worth my time." But a mature, rational, adult person can get past that and learn why the hate exists in the first place.

    As far as I'm concerned, if you assume why a racist person hates instead of researching and learning (like many anti-racists on this forum do) then your argument not only becomes redundant, but you're not even worthy of debating.

    Try visiting a right-wing website and spending some time understanding why racism exists. Then maybe a lot of your arguments against racism will begin to hold a little merit.

    We're all human whether we harbor extreme views or not.
     
  2. Zook

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    By the way... the poll question is supposed to read...

    Have you ever visited a racist website and spent time listening to the viewpoints of racists?

    I didn't have enough space to type out the last word.
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I voted yes and it was exactly as I predicted. The really hardcore racists are bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy. Anyone calling for a group of people to be executed, hung, sent back to their homeland, or forced to pay for their welfare because they cant make it are stupid.

    I believe in equal rise and fall for all my fellow man, and woman.
     
  4. Zook

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    I doubt you're talking about Stormfront. Have you tried Stormfront?
     
  5. Zook

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    I must say though, the hardcore of anything are usually crazy. Hardcore leftists are out of their minds.

    Anyone that advocates killing is crazy as hell. I read Stormfront a lot and the intelligent members (which is the vast majority) don't believe in murder, war or genocide.
     
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    Yes.
    I had an opinion of who cares but after reading those fascist websites it made me hate them even more.
    Hope the worst for nazis.
     
  7. Zook

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    Then you lied in the poll.

    You're one of the most irrational posters I've ever seen on any forum on the entire internet.

    Remember when I said...
    ...in the original post? I was talking about you and Ian.

    You've never gone to any racially aware website and spent significant time reading their opinions and arguments. You went there with a preconceived view and looked for the one or two views of the most extreme members and used that to justify your bizarre views.
     
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    Stormfront banned me ,I'm not sure if that made them smart or not .:bored:
     
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    I've been at stormfront, I dont go there anymore as it makes your IQ drop.
     
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    Imagine if your only 2 Forum/Boards were Stormfront & the DU ...:omg:
     
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    I also lived in a black ghetto and I am also white. I experienced the extreme racism of blacks toward whites. A white was in life-threatening jeopardy if out after dark on the streets there.

    That being said, I came to realize that, just like racist white cultures there are racist black cultures. In the area I lived, we called them 'street people' belligerent blacks who mocked authority, drank and did drugs openly on the streets and considered the main drag their 'turf.'

    I had many black friends in the neighborhoods who were not racist at all. I think to paint a whole population as racist just because of the overwhelming hatred of a minority of them is wrong.

    Also, keep in mind that a white friend of mine was severely beaten by at least 12 to 14 blacks just because he stopped at a hamburger stand to get something to eat. I do not blame the entire black race for that just as blacks should not blame all whites for the minority of rabid white racists.
     
  12. Zook

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    Thank you for sharing your story. I respect your opinion and viewpoint. I disagree with you, but you're certainly knowledgeable and experienced, which is far more than I can say about most anti-racists.
     
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    I got banned from DU after 1 post.

    also visited assata shakur forums. yes, I know they want to kill me.
     
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    I voted no because the asshles on Stormfront and any other racist website seem to think their opinion, based mainly on race, is the truth.

    No one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) if you think Jews were behind 9/11 or that black people should go back to Africa or that you like David Duke, no one with an IQ higher than their age anyway.
     
  15. Zook

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    Yeah, this question isn't really for black "people" anyway. If we could get more input from non-blacks that'd be great.
     
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    Just visited that "gem" of a site. Some interesting threads and thought provoking issues but still alot of the "we hate n******" and "we hate jooz", and we hate "f***".

    I don't think people should be judged for anything other than their character and actions and their desire to contribute (or at least stay neutral) to society.

    And yes, I saw several people wanting to introduce some lead into people just because...
    I read one forum about a black girl that asked if they really hated black people and it was almost constantly yes. Another one about gays saying they should be deported to Africa with the blacks or shot.

    I guess its the 5% of me that's liberal :headache:
     
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    Actuially the Anti-Zionism from the Left rivals Stormfront .:date:
     
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    Too right, I feel dumber just for looking at a "zook" thread.
     
  19. Zook

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    Well the N word is banned at Stormfront so I don't know how you saw that.

    You're going to find a lot of dip (*)(*)(*)(*)s at every forum and in every movement. Stormfront by and large makes lots of good points and has many intelligent members. To be honest, it makes this forum look like a retard convention.
     
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    With all due disrespect, I haven't seen anything from you that would make me think you have an IQ. The leader of Stormfront David Duke has a doctorate degree, and simply by reading one or both of his enormously successful books...."My Awakening" and "Jewish Supremacism" would bring your IQ up to at least to the standard of 50 for any liberal that has an ability to read and comprehend at the same time.
     
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    You're talking to someone who isn't mentally capable to receive you.
     
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    Successful cough cough
     
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    Doctorate degree =/= wise. Bill Clinton has a law school degree too, but he is not a genius either. Anyone can write anything and call it a masterpiece.
     
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    It was a "False Flag " lol:-D
     
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    I started a thread some years ago on the "opposing viewpoints" subforum stormfront.org offers for people to share exchanges. Those that were willing to participate in an exchange did so on a topic dealing mostly with the origins of their racial exclusivity. My question dealt mostly with the practicality of forming such a concrete view of a variety of cultures based solely on their personal experiences.

    What I found was that it baffled most of them that there could possibly be a plethora of personalities existent within a racial ethnicity, as an acknowledgement for said differences would inevitably trump their generalizations and frankly... core platform for ideology. I challenged them to give me the cons to mixing races with an established/well-off/mature person of color... and most of them (instead) resorted to the infantile tactics of things I shouldn't have to repeat. It was as if people actually thought that with melanin came a type of attitude, and once that was realized (and endorsed) there's really no reason to take you seriously.
     

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