Radical Feminism

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  1. CountryLiving

    CountryLiving New Member

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    So much hate against feminists!

    I'm a feminist. I'm not ugly, I don't hate men, I DO think men and women should have equal opportunities regardless of gender; they should paid the same for doing the same job; that men can be just as good a parent as women can be; that occupations don't have genders; that people should be able to go the route they want to go in work and life without being told "no, you can't do that because you're a man or because you're a woman".

    I'd go on, but hey - why should I stop you all from your blind hate?
     
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    I always find it interesting that one of the most outspoken disparagers of feminism on the Right....is Ann Coulter.


    Here's a woman, in her 50s, never married, no children, focused entirely on her career, noted for dating numerous men but rarely for long (including porn heir Bob Guiccione Jr.)....

    lamenting how feminism has supposedly 'demeaned the role of motherhood and marriage, to focus on career and having a good time.'

    And her fans never even notice the hypocrisy or irony.
     
  3. OverDrive

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    She is more of a political humorist than a role model. Usually promoting herself.

    She is the Lady Ga Ga of the Right...but shud be looked at as on the same level as Dick Morris.

    Dont get me wrong, I enjoy her rants and digs on the Left!!!!
     
  4. taikoo

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    Huh. Almost as bad as some of the things guys are saying about us, right here on this forum.
     
  5. ryobi

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    It sounds like you are an egalitarean, not a feminist? Feminists only care about inequality when they percieve the inequality effects women. When the inequality effects men, at best feminists don't care(i.e the sentencing gap), and at worst feminist look at the inequality as a good thing (i.e the gender achievement gap at universities)
     
  6. CountryLiving

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    Nope. You have a warped view of feminism. Feminists are about all genders achieving what they can without regard to gender.
     
  7. ryobi

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    fem·i·nist
    [fem-uh-nist] Show IPA

    adjective Sometimes, fem·i·nis·tic.
    1.
    advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.
     
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    And white nationalists are all just about "white equality"? :lol:

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    Some white nationalists really just care about white discrimination.

    Young earth creationists look sane compared to most feminists - even the ones which don't really look like the derogatory stereotypes.

    Feminism is just white nationalism, except with 'white centrism' replaced with 'female centricism' - there's no reason to be a member of a 'feminist' group, since women legally are denied no rights just for 'being women' (the only possible exception was women being banned from serving in combat, and that was recently repealed) - just as there's no reason to be a member of a 'white nationalist' movement other than white elitism, or contempt of 'brown people'
     
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    That's the whole point of the movement, and other 'centric' movements like it - it's just about 'taking pride' in something that's not an accomplishment (whether it's feminism, 'white pride', or anything else) - movements like that tend to attract insecure narcissistic types, because it's people like that who need to take pride in trivial things that they can't control (such as their pigment level, or their genitals), rather than their actual accomplishments (if they even have any)
     
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    No, it is a simple fact, it is ridiculous to deny it. Else it would be ridiculous to discuss with men haters men hating, because from their point of view men are as filthy as they see them and they wont see any reason to correct their image of men.
     
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    I love people who claim to know my and other women's thoughts, it makes me smile. :)
     
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    Women can't be equal unless men are equal as well. it's for both genders.
     
  16. CountryLiving

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    What a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*). When women make up 50% of the CEOs, of the Senators, of the House of Representatives, of governors' offices, etc - THEN we can talk about maybe women don't need to fight for equality anymore.

    When men are the stay-at-home parent and get NO MORE kudos (but no less kudos) than a woman does for staying home with the kids - then we can start saying maybe the battle is won.

    When you can walk down the girls' toy aisle and not see all pink, then maybe we can start thinking we're done.

    And yes - when boys are encouraged to achieve at school; when they are taught not just to be "tough" but to nurture their artistic, intelligent, emotional sides... when they can do what they want to do without being labelled with a pejorative label - then maybe we can start thinking we're done.

    We've come a long way; got a long way to go.
     
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    Or when men make up 50% of registered nurses instead of a paltry 8% :lol: Men make up those positions because they're genetically more cut out for them in general, so they get those potions naturally, that's why there's no point in fighting nature, and trying to 'force' women into positions that their genetics aren't suited for. It'd never work

    They already have equality - men make up those positions because their brains are better suited for them, not be cause of 'inequality' Women and men are 'where they are' because nature dictated it, and whining about reality's not going to change genetics or evolution. It's a pointless fight you can't win

    Men's brain structure are less adept for being a stay at home parent, than a woman - men are more geared toward left brain thinking, which governs logic and discipline (making them better as CEOs, politicians, businessmen, etc) - women are right-brained and more emotional, socially skilled, and artistic, making them better as nurses, stay at home moms, artists, therapists, etc

    I wouldn't want a man staying home and raising a kid, that wouldn't fit his brain structure usually.- a woman would be much better at that

    So there's no reason to try (and fail) to 'change anything, other than to appease some insecure (and likely overweight) woman with a complex of inferiority. It'd be like forcing left handed people to use their right hand, and right handed people to use their left hand - until there's a "50/50" distribution between righties and lefties - how asinine

    Pink is a color which fits the feminine side of the brain - brighter colors stimulate the feminine side of the brain (right side) more, while darker or neutral colors fit more with the left (male) side - therefore pink is in fact more of a feminine color, and should remain on the girl's isle

    But many of them are a pejorative label. :lol:

    A lot of kids like that just enjoy the negative attention - it's the same reason they have silly 'cliques' like 'emo', 'goth', etc - because they 'like' seeming different. If everyone at the school 'dresssed goth', then they'd stop dressing goth and start dressing 'prep' - or something.

    As far as "persuing art" goes, um well the majority of successful musicians and artists in history are men, and as far as I know, no one calls... um the Beatles 'perjorative' - just because they (gasp) are men and like music - I think you're just reflecting your own insecurities onto reality, and completely ignorant about what reality even is
    The only long way to go that any feminist has is on that weight loss routine - there's nothing you can do - trying to do that would be about as rational as trying to 'socially engineer' homosexuality away, by making boys play sports or girls play with dolls - it's unscientific hogwash for insecure and unattractive people who aren't content with what evolution made them and equate differences between the male/female brain structure with "inferiority"

    And it's not going to work - people enjoy the differences between the sexes because they make people more unique and interesting. They don't want the world to be the boring uni-sexual blob that boring people want, just so they can feel less boring in comparison.

    So your problem's with evolution if anything
     
  18. ryobi

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    Why don't you care that women don't make up 50% of the ditch diggers, loggers, Berring sea crab fishermen, construction workers, sewer workers, soldiers, ect

    I've never heard of men getting more kudos than women for being stay at home dads. In fact I've heard about men being criticized for being stay at home dads rather than working

    Manufacterers wouldn't make toys pink if they did not appeal to girls.

    School has become toxic for boys. Boys make up the vast majority of medicated students, suspensions, ect ect
     
  19. ryobi

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    Feminists who say things like, "we have a long way to go," remind me of this story I heard about a Japanese soldier who hid in the jungle at the end of WWII. No one told this soldier the war was over, so he continued fighting the, "enemy." He sabotaged planes. He set booby traps. He set trucks on fire.
    Generally, he did lots of damage. People on the island tried to tell him the war was over, but he did not believe them. Planes kept flying overhead because there was an airport on a nearby island, so he thought they were bombing Japan. When in reality, they were just passenger airliners flying from the island to Asia.
    Eventually, people on the island had to get people from his unit to tell him over loudspeakers the war was over, and finally, he was convinced, and he came out of the jungle and stopped fighting, people who were not his "enemy."
    My point is someone should tell feminists the war is over. It's not only over, but they won. They should have realized this when more woman started attending college than men, or when there were more woman making 70 to 80 thousand dollars a year than men, but instead they see things that make them believe the war is still going on, (just like the Japanese soldier seeing passenger airliners), like there are more men studying math and science than women, when this isn’t a result of discrimination, but of choice. So they continue fighting a war that's over, causing all kinds of damage when they could be doing something that's actually justified, like helping the poor.

    :roll:
     
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    Spacecricket, you need to go back to school.

    There is nothing genetic about who can do nursing; men can do it, women can do it, and yes, I'm cool with more men entering nursing and teaching and whatnot - I think it would be great!

    All the rest of your post is just so much nonsense that it's not worth addressing it.

    Men and women are not as different genetically as you propose, let's just say that. And males are not "genetically" better CEOs nor are women genetically better stay-at-home parents. You are reflecting the biases you grew up with; time to expand your brain a bit, if you are capable of it.

    Ditto to the rest of you idiots.
     
  21. ryobi

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    Ad hominine.

    Ad hominine attacks are the last bastion of a position that cannot withstand scrutiny.

    :wink:
     
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    Get back to us when you've spent a few years as a woman, let us know if it affects your perspective. Of course, a few years as a man would affect mine, I kind of wish that were a possibility for both sides.

    Or spent your time helping the poor instead of complaining abut women. :D

    I will say this, tho, that life is clearly what one makes of it. I dont choose to be a victim, or anyone's number 2.
     
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    What's wrong with women? Women are great. I love women.Female Supremacists on the other hand, not so much.Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't really like any group whose purpose it is to hurt people :shrug

    Female Supremacists are bad for everyone, men, women, and children.

    Promoting equality and truth is a worthwhile pursuit-as is helping the poor.
     
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    Cant you think of something for me to argue about? :D
     
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    Maybe you're an egalitarean?

    :smile:
     

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