Rand Paul rips Biden over Flynn unmasking, says it 'should be a deal-killer' for ex-VP's White House

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  1. Zorro

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    PAY ATTENTION: The Fake News press is now going to try to normalize unmaskings like they tried to normalize Oval Office blowjobs under Bill Clinton:

    Fake News CNN’s Jake Tapper Was a Willing #Obamagate Co-Conspirator.

    Scott Adams:

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    Imagine that!
     
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    Imagine a Nation - where the anti Establishment movement is growing - one where the citizens were in a foul mood - in 2016. I claim that the AE movement was what tipped the scales .. alienated Bernie supporters on the Blue side sitting on the couch .. AE on the Red side motivated - as you didn't know for sure that Trump was not an Establishment wonk .. Hillary - we knew. Lowest turnout in 20years or something.

    Four years later - Four years of abject chaos in politics - and then a black swan event - that movement has grown - and they have no one to vote for - cause now we know that Trump is an Establishment wonk - and that the status quo was maintained as was the case under Obama/Biden .

    In 4 years - if the movement continues to grow - a combination blue/red = Purple Platform - might have a shot - especially of others from the various sides joined in on the party. The establishment might then have a little bit of a war on its hands - one that has not been fought for a long long time in this nation.
     
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    Dr Paul isn’t always right, but when he is he’s spot on. Quid Pro Joe is as corrupt as they come and his actions during Obamagate is a deal breaker.
     
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    Why has the Establishment tried to get rid of Trump for three years, and who is Durham investigating?
     
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    She is is an advisor, and policy likely follows the advice he gives. I have never seen him attempt policymaking. He was paraded by Trump, was asked questions, and he answered them.
     
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    It would be an incredible pairing, it'd be completely miraculous if it were to come to fruition.
     
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    It is much worse than Watergate.

    Nixon was never a primary player... Biden is at the core of the crime.

    Obama needs to be brought in to testify under oath.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, but a field office examined the whole case and found it to be riddled with corruption.

    Trump had NOTHING to do with choosing Jensen.
     
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    It doesnt matter how I feel.
    It's how you look when you yell "Trump" in every thread. So keep going. It's funny
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using this board as a bit of a sample - there are a bunch of rather hard core Red that liked her. Not many on the Blue side can make that claim - none to my recollection.

    I will sent a text massage to Tulsi !
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    We had a reality TV star as President - how about an ex Military Surfer Gal From Hawaii ! at least as VP

    "I'LL by that for a dollar " !? ;)
     
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    Don't know about Durham.

    The Establishment is not some monolith - there are different factions - and these factions sometimes conflict.

    Clearly there are some Establishment interests that did not want him gone - otherwise he would not be there :) You can't have "Everyone" against you and remain in power.

    There are many games afoot here - and sometimes things seem counter intuitive - especially if one does not understand the rules of the game very well.

    There are some things the Establishment disagree's on. On some things however the Establishment agree's - This is how you tell what an Establishment wonk is - both Trump and Obama towed the line - maintained the status quo with respect to these things.

    "The Wall" - Abortion - Gay Marriage -Guns - immigration - these are hot button issues. The Establishment does not care that much about these things - some interests might have a personal interest but - these are not what the big interests care about.

    There are many Establishment interests who are just fine with Trump at the Helm - and let the Hens squabble over this and that - keep the citizens distracted and divided - been three years and there had been nothing on the news pretty much other than Stormy - Russiagate - Ukraine-gate. Is the water safe to drink yet in Flint ? - apparently nothing else is going on in this nation or around the world.
     
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    Ah, you care how I look — I am flattered.
    Especially as you ignore the blatant corruption of trump and his cronies in every thread.

    I would say it is funny, but that isn’t the adjective I would use.
     
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    Democrats missed an opportunity with Tulsi. She's viewed positively by many conservatives, in spite of being legitimately progressive. She's stable and balanced... and the fact that she wasn't supported by Democrats goes to show precisely how far left the Democrats have gone.
     
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    Start a thread about it, or else continue to look comical
     
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    I like this one, thanks!
     
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    This thread is about quid pro joe and his role in Obamagate.
     
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    It is actually about comments that Rand Paul made about Biden in regards to an event that is being investigated under the trump administration.
    Did you read the OP?
     
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    Yes Sen Paul’s comments were about Biden’s unfitness to run office because of his role in obamagate. I agree.
     
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    You know that if you go far enough left - you end up on the right :) The Dems are now "Neocon's" .. go figure !
     
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    That's awedome.
    High laugh value in your posts
     
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    Trey Gowdy said nearly 3 years ago that he was fixin' to get the bottom of this unmasking stuff, I wonder if Trey could give us an update on his progress.

    The line between lawful unmasking and political spying — and what comes next
    Investigators looking for possible criminality will likely examine leaks, emails, discussions, and timing of unmaskings.

    There was about a three-fold increase in the search of Americans' unmasked phone records during Spying Obama's second term. Had a limited tool created for intelligence analysts become a tool for political appointees to target political enemies?

    With US intelligence increasingly searching phone records of Americans collected by the National Security Agency, it would become too tempting to seek to listen to specific intercepted conversations of political adversaries after the fact.

    Wednesday, DNI, Ric Grenell and two senators revealed that more than a dozen Obama political appointees sought to unmask more than two dozen intercepted conversations involving then-incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. And that occurred in just the two months between when President Trump won the election and he took office.

    https://justthenews.com/accountabil...een-lawful-unmasking-and-political-spying-and

    Most of the requesters were political appointees not career intelligence analysts, and included the likes of Biden, U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power, Obama Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, two ambassadors and a half dozen Treasury Department officials including then-Secretary Jack Lew.

    One of the requesters, then-Deputy Treasury Secretary Sarah Raskin, is married to Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin, one of Trump's harshest critics in Congress. Comey and Brennan, both who hate Trump, got in on the unmasking.
     
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    One certain crime: an unmasked conversation between Flynn and Russia's ambassador to Washington was leaked to at least two Fake News media outlets.

    Whether the unmasking requests were lawful depends on whether the requester had a valid intelligence reason to possess the name.

    If they shared the name of an American or the transcript contents with an unauthorized person, that could put them in criminal jeopardy.

    Has unmasking become too easy to do and therefore infringes on Americans privacy, specifically the Constitution's 4th Amendment protection against unlawful search and seizure?

    Power, whose name was invoked for hundreds of unmasking requests, didn't even try to claim a lawful purpose, she just put up the Weiner Defense and claimed her credentials were stolen. Trey Gowdy said nearly three years ago that he was fixin' to get to the bottom of this, perhaps he will have an update soon. The unmasking system was clearly being widely and systematically abused by the Obama Administration.
     
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    The NSA is forbidden from intentionally intercepting Americans phone calls. But if the agency does so incidentally, it must keep the name/identity of the Americans minimized or hidden in the databases that are routinely searched by intelligence analysts. Unmasking is a request to eliminate that protection and identify either the phone records or actual conversations of those Americans.

    The number of Americans who had their phone records intercepted by the NSA and their call records (metadata) searched and unmasked had exploded from more than 9,500 in 2013 to more than 30,000 in 2016. About one out of every six times an Americans phone records was searched, there was a request to search the unmasked contents of the call, the records.

    Both grew about the same pace. Meaning the more searches on phone records there were, the more searches there were to find the content of the calls.

    Trump instituted a new policy substantially tightening up the unmasking process and searches of Americans phone records have been cut about in half.
     
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    They are the criminals of the biggest political scandal in the United States since it formed.
     

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