Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press

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    The lies continue. ^^^^
     
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    The Democrats are disgusting. They don't care about the people who need the help the most which are blue collar workers and small business owners who live paycheck to paycheck and don't have large savings accounts. We can only hope that the US voters remember their actions is November.
     
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    The article in the Washington Post was by Tim Morrison who was purely a political appointee chosen by Trump and has no expertise in pandemics or pandemic organizations.

    So lets hear from someone who actually worked on Global Heath directorate for the USC.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/69197/...fense-of-streamlining-away-our-bio-readiness/

    'The directorate formalized the whole-of-government, domestic-and-international focus that Ron Klain had instituted as Ebola czar, and created a hub for expertise and institutional memory. The architect and initial leader of that Directorate, Beth Cameron, recently wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post criticizing the Trump administration’s historic error of judgement in closing it. And that in turn prompted former National Security Adviser John Bolton’s rebuttal to defend his decision with what can only be characterized as disinformation.

    The organizational structure that is left after a concerted effort to “streamline” reveals what you actually care about. Bolton’s chosen approach to NSC “streamlining” involved decapitating and diluting the White House’s focus on pandemic threats. He eliminated the Senior Director position entirely, closed the biodefense directorate, and spread the remaining staff across other parts of the NSC. That’s the opposite of streamlining. Instead of giving the issue a distinct institutional presence, expertise, and voice in the policy process, Bolton’s reorganization left it fragmented across other directorates that were focused on other higher priorities.

    That statement is no defense; it’s a sleight of hand. Global health is NOT the same as pandemic readiness. U.S. global health programs focus on all sorts of valuable efforts overseas. AIDS programs. Vaccine programs. Safe childbirth programs. And a lot more – all noble and strategic parts of U.S. foreign policy.'
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    The so called bio defense team had no leader for two years.

    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/0...diately-fill-global-health-security-position/

    Schatz and the senators urged immediate action because the top global public health position at the NSC has remained vacant for almost two years. The senators also cited the more than 44,000 people in more than 20 countries who have contracted the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 1,100 people.
    The World Health Organization has declared the outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, and on January 31, 2020, Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar declared a public health emergency in the United States.
     
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    The Article used for this above post is From the blogmess called "Red State'
    written by "Bonchie" a pseudonym for a writer who doesn’t have the guts to use his real name.

    We can tell what the Democrats really wanted in the stimulus package by seeing what House's original Bill included:
    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/othe...ulus-plan-compares-to-the-senates/ar-BB11CDBV

    "HOW THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS’ STIMULUS PLAN COMPARED TO THE SENATE’S

    By Caitlin Emma and Jennifer Scholtes

    HERE'S WHAT HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE INCLUDED IN THEIR BILL AND HOW IT CONTRASTS WITH THE LATEST PROPOSAL FROM SENATE REPUBLICANS:

    Bigger cash payments to Americans

    Democrats want to further plump the direct payments that would go out to Americans under the bill, proposing $1,500 per person, instead of the $1,200 on the table under the Senate measure laid out Sunday. Unlike the latest plan from Senate Republicans, however, higher earners would have to pay back part or all of the assistance over three years if their taxable income is $75,000 or more for a single filer or $150,000 or more for couples filing jointly. The money would be available to anyone with a tax ID number, and to retirees and people who are unemployed, rather than just to people who file taxes for 2019 or get Social Security.
    More help to hospitals
    Health care providers and community health centers would receive about $150 billion, while hospitals would get an additional $80 billion in low-interest loans. The proposal is more in line with industry requests, compared to the $75 billion Senate Republicans have offered. The House bill would also waive treatment costs, abandon certain barriers to accessing medicines and provide safety protections for health workers.
    Expanding unemployment, paid sick leave

    The unemployed would get an extra $600 per week on top of state or federal benefits in order to replace 100 percent of lost wages. The measure would also extend paid sick leave benefits to cover individuals, such as health care workers and first responders, who were cut out of Congress’ second coronavirus response.
    Emergency funding for federal agencies
    House Democrats want to go much bigger in sending emergency money to federal agencies, proposing hundreds of billions more than the $242 billion Senate Republicans have pitched, according to a Democratic aide. The White House, meanwhile, has made a narrowly tailored request for $46 billion.
    Companies would get credits against payroll taxes for giving employees any kind of sick or family medical leave, not just for coronavirus-related reasons.
    Businesses would get to deduct losses from this year, last year and 2018 from their taxes for any of the last five years. The Senate bill includes a similar “carry back” provision. The House did not include provisions allowing faster write-offs for restaurant and retail business investments or bigger deductions for business interest, both of which are in the Senate bill.'
     
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    Were they. Were they. Were they. . This is how Trump works he claims things or insinuates swithout a shred of evidence. This is how Trump shows contempt for the American people. Speading B.S.about himself or others without a shred of evidence.
     
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    You're right why have an expert set of voices merely fingertips away to warn you and inform you as early as possible. After all it's not like anyone died.
     
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    Bolton essentially took the pandemic team members and rolled them into other departments that had nothing to do with pandemics That's how Tim Morrison can claim that the members of the team were not fired but the ex-members were concentrating on issues that had nothing to do with pandemics. Also as I've shown in a previous post that the so called bio defense team hadn't had a leader for over 2 years.



    https://www.justsecurity.org/69197/...fense-of-streamlining-away-our-bio-readiness/

    'The directorate formalized the whole-of-government, domestic-and-international focus that Ron Klain had instituted as Ebola czar, and created a hub for expertise and institutional memory. The architect and initial leader of that Directorate, Beth Cameron, recently wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post criticizing the Trump administration’s historic error of judgement in closing it. And that in turn prompted former National Security Adviser John Bolton’s rebuttal to defend his decision with what can only be characterized as disinformation.

    The organizational structure that is left after a concerted effort to “streamline” reveals what you actually care about. Bolton’s chosen approach to NSC “streamlining” involved decapitating and diluting the White House’s focus on pandemic threats. He eliminated the Senior Director position entirely, closed the biodefense directorate, and spread the remaining staff across other parts of the NSC. That’s the opposite of streamlining. Instead of giving the issue a distinct institutional presence, expertise, and voice in the policy process, Bolton’s reorganization left it fragmented across other directorates that were focused on other higher priorities.
    That statement is no defense; it’s a sleight of hand. Global health is NOT the same as pandemic readiness. U.S. global health programs focus on all sorts of valuable efforts overseas. AIDS programs. Vaccine programs. Safe childbirth programs. And a lot more – all noble and strategic parts of U.S. foreign policy.'
     
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    If it is simply not possible for yourself to answer the question as it was presented, simply state as much rather than play foolish games.

    Once again, exactly what could the pandemic response team actually do, that the center for disease control either was not, or simply could not do on its own?
     
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    Don't you know that Trump had to reassemble an expert team through the months or January and February. An expert Pandemic focused response team with members who had experience fighting earlier viruses would have been warning and advising him in December. Most of the earlier experienced members were sent to other NSC departments that had nothing do with Bio Defense group and what was left did not have a director for 2 years.
     
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    Members of Congress who presided over the outsourcing of US manufacturing to China and importing of Chinese diseases for years should donate their salaries to the defeat of the coronavirus. The one person who campaigned against intertwining our economy with China's and banned foreigners from traveling from China to the US on January 31, 2020 over screams by globalists that his act was xenophobic should not be the only one donating his entire salary to HHS or other government agency.

    If you need a spit shine for that brainwashing you bought into hook line and sinker, let us know.
     
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    The US gave China most of our industries 30 years ago, that's why we hardly manufacture anything in the US anymore. There's more profit for US corporations to hand over the production to China because of the cheap labor. It's been nothing but corporate greed in this country for far too long, we screwed ourselves, nobody else to blame but us.
     
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    It was a policy decision. Politicians believed that if we introduced capitalism in China, the Communists would come around. They just became Communists who own us and know it. Xi famously said that China is the only sovereign nation in the world. They have built militarized islands in international waters. They have blinded our pilots with lasers off the coast of South Africa. They have stolen intellectual property to include stealth technology they bought from the Bidens. No company is going to turn up their nose to 1.5 Billion customers. It's up to Congress to place constraints, and they have failed ,,,, and are still collecting their salaries. We continue to educate Chinese kids, even after they came here and infected Americans and have been caught stealing intellectual property and sending it home.
     
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    A great portion of the intellectual properties China now has was due in part to US manufacturers handing it over to them. Our corporations sent our technicians, our engineers, our production managers to China to train them how to do the jobs those in the US were doing.

    I personally know two engineers that worked for Sikorsky Aircraft, now a part of Lockheed, that traveled back and forth from the US to China for a long time training engineers in China. My brother in law was a VP with Raytheon, and Raytheon was doing the exact same thing. What does Raythoen do? Missile defense, sensors and imaging. Most of our own technology is contained in nearly all the satellites China has circling the earth. No, China did not steal all of our US intellectual property, we handed it to them on a silver platter filled with money.
     
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    We pay our politicians so that sensitive technology doesn't end up in the hands of our enemies. The good news is that people who are good at capturing and replicating existing technology aren't always good at the next step, creating and innovating.
     
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    Latest Gallup poll ... approve of Trump's handling: 60%. Disapprove: 38%.
     
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    Even if the above response is indeed factually accurate, what relevance would it have? Ultimately what difference would it actually make? Should the pandemic response team have been maintained indefinitely, during a time when there was no pandemic to be concerned about, on the off chance that something might develop later on down the line? What would the response team have done during the interim to justify its continued existence and funding for basic existence and doing no work?
     
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    Nothing you say here makes any kind of sense.
    Lol the Pandemic team had disbanded in 2017 2018. It hadn't met in years in part because it had no director. Its job was to study viruses all over the world so we would know how to react in case we had to deal with one in The USA. Moron-Trump doesn't believe in science, readiness, early warnings and saving as many lives as he possibly can.

    The U.S Senate had to force his hand by demanding that he have a director assigned.

    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/0...diately-fill-global-health-security-position/
    "Schatz and the senators urged immediate action because the top global public health position at the NSC has remained vacant for almost two years. The senators also cited the more than 44,000 people in more than 20 countries who have contracted the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 1,100 people. In May 2018, some of us wrote to then-National Security Advisor John Bolton regarding our concerns about this vacancy, noting “[t]he threat of a pandemic is serious, and it’s important families know we have a vigilant and experienced team in place and working to protect us against such public health threats.” We asked a series of questions about how the NSC would handle global health security threats. But we received no answers to our questions.
    in May 2018, “the head of global health security on the White House’s National Security Council left the Trump Administration.” Almost two years later, this position on the National Security Council (NSC) remains vacant. We urge immediate action, as well as your response to questions regarding the NSC’s readiness"

    By the way this 2- bit jackass called the Democrat's hoaxers because they complained about the exact same thing that the Senators complained about (lack of preparedness).
     
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    Yawn https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/
     
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    How soon we forget.

    He’s fared less well in other recent polls, but still earned positive ratings — until now.

    An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday, 47 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s coronavirus response, while 52 percent of Americans disapprove — a steep drop from the same poll taken just two weeks ago when a whopping 55 percent approved of Trump’s response.

    And in Trump’s favorite survey, the Trump-skewing Rasmussen daily tracking poll, his approval rating has dropped four points in a matter of days. The last time Trump was above water in that poll was Feb. 27, when his approval was at 52 percent. But he began this week with a -5 point net unfavorability, and finishes it nine points underwater with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/new-p...-show-him-underwater-on-coronavirus-response/
     
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    There's nothing here just pure B.S. and no proof. noevidence
    The proof is here:

    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/02/19/senators-call-on-trump-administration-to-immediately-fill-global-health-security-position/

    Schatz and the senators urged immediate action because the top global public health position at the NSC has remained vacant for almost two years. The senators also cited the more than 44,000 people in more than 20 countries who have contracted the novel coronavirus, which has killed more than 1,100 people. In May 2018, some of us wrote to then-National Security Advisor John Bolton regarding our concerns about this vacancy, noting “[t]he threat of a pandemic is serious, and it’s important families know we have a vigilant and experienced team in place and working to protect us against such public health threats.” We asked a series of questions about how the NSC would handle global health security threats. But we received no answers to our questions.
    in May 2018, “the head of global health security on the White House’s National Security Council left the Trump Administration.” Almost two years later, this position on the National Security Council (NSC) remains vacant. We urge immediate action, as well as your response to questions regarding the NSC’s readiness"
    https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/0...diately-fill-global-health-security-position/


    Trump was warned over and over again to move quickly but he refused.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/sen...osal-in-response-to-coronavirus-outbreak.html

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a March 9 press release issued prior to the president’s 0% payroll tax idea said that any proposal must prioritize paid sick leave, widespread and free coronavirus testing, affordable treatment for all, anti-price-gouging protections and enhanced unemployment'
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/sen...osal-in-response-to-coronavirus-outbreak.html
    Pelosi was dead on because enhanced unemployment was a proposal that was in the final aid package
     
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    How does such differ from the center for disease control, and what it already does? How was the pandemic response team better, or otherwise justified in doing what is ultimately a redundant duty already being done by another established agency?
     
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    And yesterday, he made a big deal about saying 'the cupboards were bare'. He didn't make mention of the fact that he had three years to stock them back up - just wanted to blame the previous administration.
     
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    It refers to both if you actually read it. From the article ...

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama...didnt-eliminate-the-pandemic-response-office/
     

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