Rep. Cooper: We may have to arrest Postmaster General

UPS is not in the commercial mailing business. It's largely a shipping and retail operation. Though if they want to expand, I'd welcome the private market competition.

 

Here's a direct quote from the report you linked to above:

"the Committee found no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government in its efforts to meddle in the election."

Your thoughts?

 

No politician deserves the benefit of the doubt. The only relevant info is when the decision was made and the pieces of mail per sorting machine.

Trump is not the one trying to change the rules. Cancel culturers and police defunders need to see the other side of their barbaric ideology. "Me no like! Me smash!"

 

Yes, and shouldn't this thread be in the conspiracy section?

 

Ok, I shall see your arrest of the Postmaster General and raise you an arrest of Nancy Pelosi. See how that works.

 

So if the decision was made after states started talking about moving to vote by mail, that’s a problem right?
And I have no idea what your rant on cancel culture has to do with the post office

 

They would arrest him for defunding the postal service, but since they defunded the police, there is no one to arrest him!

 

Not really, unless there's some actual evidence that it was made in an attempt to prevent mail-in voting. Mail-in ballots will be like 0.1% of the total pieces of mail the post office will handle this year. The idea that the Postmaster General would order the removal of enough sorting machines to "cripple" the election strikes me as an idiotic conspiracy theory. Unless we're just going to shut down the USPS entirely, they've got more than enough capacity to handle the election-related mail. In fact, they've got so much excess capacity that they're retiring old sorting machines, because the volume of mail has been in a steady decline for years.

 

That would at least make this a story. The other factor is how many pieces of mail that go through these machines. This type of mail is steadily declining. I can't remember the last time I got an envelope in the mail.

Those who want to defund the police should have no problem with this!

 

Jim and his brother (mayor of Nasvhille, are both peevish little turds. It is instructive though when you get someone like Cooper in office to witness the willingness to abuse his authority in pursuit of his own personal profits though. Of course, democrats applaud this behavior.

 

In person with an ID. Works for everyone.

 

Yep, none .

 

So all the people saying their getting huge delays on their mail are lying?
I know my mail used to come around noon, now it’s closer to 7pm.

 

And those how want to defund schools should have no problem defunding the police.
So you don’t beleive the people who report new huge delays in getting prescriptions and things?

 

I read through that. Clicked on the many links that was in it. Many of the links went to WAPO or other articles by Forbes and a few to other news outlets. Not a single link went to the letters that was referenced that DeJoy sent out. Though some of the articles did admit that some of the policies were implemented before DeJoy took his position. Other parts use words like "seems to indicate"...which means that they are not telling you exactly what it said. Only what they are reading into what it said. Why was the letter not linked to directly? Why are they telling us what it said instead of showing us what it said?

I see a lot of assumptions being made. With no actual proof that DeJoy and Trump are trying to rig the election.

 

You made a good example. Schools also have unions protecting pay and pensions ensuring the need for more funding while giving less to those who fund them. These unsustainable operations need to be reorganized.

As far as medications being delayed, I thought these sorting machines were for envelopes, not parcels. Also, I noticed UPS packages being delivered by USPS. My son is a seasonal worker for UPS and they are also experiencing delays. They just don't have the manpower to keep up in spite of calling in their seasonal workers that normally don't start work until November.

Of course, we do need to make sure people are properly medicated before seeing who is on the ballot

 

No it isn't. Obama removed 60 THOUSAND mail boxes and you didn't say squat.

We all love left-wing Discussion Form "Lawyers".

Oh, he fully intends to win. Nobody believes the lies and propaganda directed at Trump and Americans, and no one likes the Looters and Rioters that some folks think are going to help prevail in the upcoming elections.

You put "profit" in quotes? Are unaware that we would like the Post Office to quit losing BILLIONS of dollars every year?

What evidence do you have that your voters are too dumb to just use the mail box at their house?

Cite the Federal law that you claim is being violated, or take a hike.

Is Cooper a bit of a desperate retard? He seems disturbed and deranged, in fact, he would fit in well with the haters speaking at the DNC, except it's over, and with it, the ambien sales slump.

Here's another nut-burger, who coincidentally, also hails from your side of the aisle.


“F*ck! F*ck! F*ck! – Democrat Senator Tom Carper Caught Spewing Profanities During Postal Service Hearing

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Tom Carper previously admitted to giving his wife a black eye.

Claimed it merely gave her "some discoloration of her left eye and some puffiness.”

Seems like things are coming apart on your side.

And why are you screwing around with this while refusing COVID relief for idled workers?

 

You don't consider 7 hours a "huge delay", do you?

Who are "all the people"? A few anecdotes that the reporters found?

You know what would be convincing? Some actual data.

 

Mail boxes is not the issue, most mail boxes aren't filled to capacity, and most people send mail in there home mail boxes at there houses and apartment buildings. Parcels are usually dealt with right at the post office. So Mail boxes are NOT the issue. See, during obama, we didn't see a slowing down of the mail, but we are now, so it's sorting machines, preventing overtime, which is often necessary to keep trucks filled to capacity ( as one employed told us) firing regional delivery managers, and various policy changes which resulted in the USPS mailling out notices to many states that the new changes will result in ballots not being processed in time to be counted, as the PG has already admitted to.
As stated in another comment:

DeJoy announced a major restructuring of USPS leadership affecting 23 postal executives and imposed a management hiring freeze, which was criticized as a “Friday Night Massacre” and described by the Washington Post as “centralizing power around DeJoy...and de-emphasiz[ing] decades of institutional postal knowledge.”

Letters sent to officials in 46 states indicate the Postal Service has reversed a longstanding policy that treats election mail as speedier first-class mail while charging lower marketing mail rates


Sorry, it's bullshit. the jig is up, we're pullin' the right's covers and exposing to the world who the right really is, desperate and the only way they can stay in power is to cheat.

What I said about the Postal regulatory commission requirement for policy changes is law, and fact. Your retort does not refute it.

Non argument, meaningless drivel.

Sure, being profitable is nice, but you don't do it by slowing the mail down. The the post office is established by constitution. It's a government entity. The postmaster general's first duty is to get the mail out on time. It would be nice to be profitable, but the PG's job is to speed things up, not slow things down as this PG is doing. As a government entity, it doesn't have the imperative to operate at a profit that a private enterprise does so there is NO need to slow things down, not ever. There is only one agency that delivers mail, and because of that fact, you can't run the post office like you run a business where there are alternative services. This may be true with parcel delivery, but not mail. The post office has had a fiscal albatross hung around it's neck given that The 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act required the Postal Service to pre-fund future retiree health benefits for 75 years. No other agency of the government has this requirement, and republicans have been accused of putting this on the post office to bankrupt it so they can clammer for 'privatization'. The law put a financial strain on the service, which has defaulted on some of the statutorily prescribed payments. Thanks a lot, republicans. Republicans are conniving, deceitful, dupiclitous, and republican administrations are rife with criminality evidenced by the numerous indictments and convictions, far more than any other party.

? What are you talking about? This is non-sequitur.

First, Trump is gaming this system by not letting the Senate approve of an offically appointed PG, so he installs an 'acting" PG.
This is a ruse so he can control the post office by threat of firing the acting AG, also he's appointed an acting AG that was not qualified to run the post office, and he's a Trump mega donor, so it's got corruption written all over it and the whole thing about the entire Trump administration stinks to the stars.

Second, an Senate approved appointee can be impeached for dereliction and/or incompetence. Slowing the mail down is either an indication of incompetence, or if deliberate, if there is a conspiracy with the president to thwart the vote, that probably has legal dimensions. This would be a serious matter.

It's not about crime, it's about getting the mail out on time, and not playing games with the electorate, cheating the vote to win.

That's what is going on, and I don't give crap what you think, the GOP is a runaway criminal enterprize and they are going down.

Non sequitur deflection. Stay on point. If you have some other point to make, start a thread and we'll debate it.

As for 'side of the isle' if you want to get into a pissing contest on who has the most clowns in your ranks, you'll win that contest, hands down.

 

Nah and he came at noon today. So bad anecdote. The senators sound like they’re getting a lot of calls. You think it’s all made up? For what reason?

 

You make a very good point. If most mail is left out with the flag up, voting by mail is far more dangerous than I thought.

 

OMG He's gotta go and see the mail cops!

 

I'm 69 years of age, and have been putting up the flag on my mail box since I was a preteen, and not once have I experienced danger.

so what in tarnation are you talking about?

 

They need the $25 billion to pay illegals to vote for Biden.

 

Vote in person or don't vote at all. If your cowardice is so great that you are afraid to vote because of a virus, YOU DO NOT DESERVE THE VOTE. I can't believe how fast the American people devolved from heroic warriors to simpering weak curs. We idolize the weak, the indolent and the useless. If the Presidency means that much too you, you should be willing to risk something for it.