Republicans' 2025 agenda

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Have you heard of the Republicans' 2025 agenda? I saw it in my news feed earlier today.

    Apparently, the Republicans are all getting together, and they will unite behind Donald Trump to make major changes to our form of government after the next election.

    Depending on who writes the story, the changes come as replacing the position of President with Donald Trump leading the way, or they are going to make changes to the employment situation in the government and make public sector employees firable and then they are going to fire the lot of them, or --one thing I thought of-- they are going to botch up the government's functioning seriously and require a massive re-hiring of government employees probably under the next Democratic administration -- making them look like a major bloat-a-saurus.
     
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    ..... and you believe that garbage????

    .... and you don't realize that Democrats are, once again, projecting their own plans onto others?
     
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    This is the biggest tell that the story is complete and utter BS... The Republicans (RNC) have been warring against Trump (and We The People) ever since he came down the escalator in 2015.
     
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    I have a hard time imagining Republicans are going to "make major changes to the government". They'll try to undo the changes the Democrats have recently made, of course.
    Some of that is most likely just rhetoric.
    There are a few Republicans who want to drastically scale down the size of the government workforce, but I think that is very unlikely to happen. There might only be a very small reduction.
     
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    I had no idea what you were talking about so I googled, and it's called Project 2025, a Heritage Foundation environmental policy guide. Since it's funded by the Koch Brothers, It has nothing to do with Trump. They hate the guy.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Thank you. Yes, I guess it's called Project 2025.

    And the juicy details are mostly on news sites behind paywalls which is why most people here have never heard of it.
     
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    Where did you read this manure? Was it Mother Jones, The National Inquirer or the Socialist Worker? I doubt that it was the New Republic or The Atlantic. They know better than to publish crap that is totally unbelievable.
     
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    There are several places to read about it: The Washington Post, The New York Times, the AP... Each with their own interpretation. Each behind a paywall.

    Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision (washingtonpost.com)

    Conservatives aim to restructure U.S. government and replace it with Trump’s vision | PBS NewsHour

    Trump Plans to Expand Presidential Power Over Agencies in 2025 - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision | AP News
     
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    Yep, “Mother Jones,” only under classier names like The Washington Post, PBS, The New York Times and The Associated Press. Every one of them are part of the corporate media which are 95 to 99% in the tank for the Democrat Party.

    Reading them is the same as reading The Nation and New Republic magazines. Those two publications are honest about the fact that they are opinion journals. The previous four can’t admit that their news and editorial pages have merged.
     
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    If you think that Trump and the Republicans have any business ruling the country after this then you've got to be kidding me!
     
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    Garbage? Dude, it has literally been documented . . . in their own ****ing words.
     
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    Yea, Joe Biden is an honest guy who gets money from China and Russia. His son, Hunter, “the smartest guy he knows” who smart enough to evade incomes taxes and get away with it. Al Capone never got a deal that good. He went to prison for tax evasion.

    And for last time I don’t want Trump!
     
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    Dude, Trump LITERALLY got money from China and Russia. WHILE IN ****ING OFFICE, and you haven't said jack **** about that. You have NO evidence that Joe Biden did the same.
     
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    Ooooooooooooooooooooookay then
     
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    Yes. Project 2025 is documented. I'm sorry that facts make you sad. They are still facts.
     
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    That's great! Yet another reason to vote for them.

    They're just finally on board with what Trump was trying to do, return the country to the original vision of the founders. As for axing the Deep State I think that's coming this Supreme Court term thanks to Trump's brilliant SC picks.

    Let the tears of progressives start filling the street!
     
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    LOL. That takes some chutzpa, to try to sell the idea that Republicans are "warring" with Donald Trump, rather than following him. And yes, Trump has been publicly saying that he is going on a great purge of government workers, in the event he is returned to the Presidency. And other Republicans, as well, have echoed his sentiments about the "deep state," and defunding the FBI, and so forth. Hell, in the one term that Trump's had at the helm he'd, in effect, taken an ax to the senior ranks-- that is, the most knowledgeable and experienced members-- of our State Department. And the Trump administration had censored government scientists, as on Climate Change. In fact, the Heritage Foundation (heard of it?) has a 2025 Presidential Transition Project, "Project 2025," that any reasonable person should find alarming. Heritage has, itself, noted how heavily Trump relied upon its plan, in his first term, for policy guidance, enacting 2/3 of its proposals, his first year in office. Part of the new plan includes an energy plan, which is to essentially pretend that Climate Change is not real, and so undo everything that Biden began, to help address it-- returning instead, to the "drill, baby, drill," philosophy. Totally irresponsible. And totally what Republicans would do, given the chance. The directors of Project 2025, btw, are both officials from the Trump administration.



    https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

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    The project is the effort of a broad coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government.

    The 2025 Presidential Transition Project is being organized by The Heritage Foundation and builds off Heritage’s longstanding “Mandate for Leadership,” which has been highly influential for presidential administrations since the Reagan era. Most recently, the Trump administration relied heavily on Heritage’s “Mandate” for policy guidance, embracing nearly two-thirds of Heritage’s proposals within just one year in office.

    Paul Dans, former chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) during the Trump administration, serves as the director of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. Spencer Chretien, former special assistant to the president and associate director of Presidential Personnel, serves as associate director of the project.
     
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    Yes.... the political left does a masterful job of accusing their opponents of what they actually are planning themselves. The Dems would love to fire anybody who generally accepts the Judaeo - Christian Ethic...... and refused to take the experimental vaccine plus two or three boosters!!!

    I am aware that the USA G.O.P and the the Conservatives here in Canada are terribly flawed.... but at least they are five hundred percent if not a thousand percent, more LIBERTARIAN than the most libertarian people on the political left.
     
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    If Trump is the GOP nominee, you will stand in line and vote for him.

    You saying “ I don’t want Trump” mean absolutely nothing.
     
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    Oh .. don’t pay attention to him when he says “ I don’t want Trump” . they would stand in line for 8 hours to vote for Trump. Trump redirected C-17 plan over Europe 800 miles so US air force personal will stay in Trump Golf resort in Scotland so Trump can make money. And these people talk about Hunter Biden.
     
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    I personally made some rather shocking statements a year or two ago..... that will offend many people who think that they understand basic economic theory.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...moshiach-ben-ephrayim.587238/#post-1072584694





    But... I have somebody in mind who I feel would risk his own life in order to try his best to save the life of President Donald J. Trump by diverting some of the controversy of this theory away from President Trump.... .and toward himself!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...on-to-the-world.612214/page-2#post-1074394770


     
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    If the Republicans do regain control, they need to clean house at the DOJ and the FBI. Those two agencies pose dire threats to the continuation of democracy in this country. Garland and Wray are fascists, and rot extends below them. Just how far is uncertain.
     
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    I think you've pinpointed why the Republicans are not going to gain control.
     
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    If you think that you can reduce the Federal Government’s civil service laws and get beyond the government labor unions, you’re dreaming. Those organizations have the Democrat Party, the corporate news media, much of the courts and most moderate Republicans supporting them.

    The best you can do is appoint a decent Attorney General and FBI Director, and hope that they can stem the tide. Donald Trump had a very poor record with his appointments while he was president. Many of them were dishonest with respect to their politics. Christopher Wray is a glaring example.

    Trump also burned bridges when trashed people in public. Chris Christy outlined that problem. Christy was a Trump ally who helped prep him for the debates in 2020. Trump’s abrasive style alienated him along with many others.
     
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    Government employees should be easier to fire. There's a lot of dead weight and corruption within the bureaucratic ranks.
     
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