Republicans Against Trump

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    The bigger the sign, the bigger the insecurity.

    Polls mean more than signs.
     
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    The RINOs of Trumpery are being targeted by conservative Republicans who are determined to take back their Party and fumigate it.
     
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    The only thing in need of fumigation are the democrats in the house.
     
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    After the American people issued their verdict on Trumpery in 2018, chances are conservative Republicans will be able to take back their Party from the Trumpers in 2020.
     
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    Once again. Total fantasyland.
     
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    In 2018, the nationwide "blue wave" of Democratic victories carried particular weight in Wisconsin, where Democrat Tony Evers defeated Walker (who had, since 2011, won two general elections and a recall election) and Democratic Sen. Tammy Baldwin comfortably won re-election over Leah Vukmir, whom Trump endorsed.

    Even more troubling for Republicans were the results from the high-stakes state Supreme Court election in April. Liberal judge Jill Karofsky defeated conservative Justice Daniel Kelly, who was also backed by Trump, in an election that took place despite the pandemic, with voters donning masks and gloves and braving long lines to cast ballots.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...-pandemic-response-fuels-disapproval-n1232646
     
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    You have got to be ******** me. Trump doesn't represent republican values? Free trade? Legal immigration? Alienating domestic and international partners?
     
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    Republicans lost ~390 seats at all levels of government in 2018.
     
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    And it's not even Trump is Toast Tuesday.
     
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    Yeah and democrats lost like 1100 before that... Your point being?
     
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    My point is that Americans punished Republicans for Trump's failures and hijacking of the Republican party in 2018.

    And given the signs from polling to fundraising to quality of candidates, the same is about to happen in 2020. And if that happens, then Democrats will control the drawing of district lines, just as Republicans gained that control in 2010, and then the Republican losses will exacerbate further.
     
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    Polls are completely meaningless. Signs at least show enthusiasm levels.

    I actually live in and travel around a good chunk of Wisconsin. I see what's going on from the ground level, and outside of Dane and Milwaukee Counties, there is little enthusiasm for Biden and quite a bit of enthusiasm for Trump...

    I got a feeling that liberals might be disappointed yet again come November...
     
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    Nothing But Crap fake news?? hahahahahahahaha

    But yeah, I've personally seen the political landscape from the ground level here in Wisconsin. I can tell you that this article is full of BS.

    I bet you dollars to doughnuts that King Evers does not win re-election if a decent candidate runs against him. Tammy Baldwin always performs well in the State (don't ask me why), and the Karofsky win was likely a fluke (Democrat Primary voting).

    I expect Republicans in WI to turn out in full force in November to support Trump. Especially rural WI, but hopefully the WOW counties turn out much stronger than they did in 2016. There's a good chance of that, as registration numbers in Washington County are looking good compared to Milwaukee County.
     
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    Trump squeaked out a win in Wisconsin by a narrow margin of 0.77% (22,748 votes).
    Don't expect a repeat as his numbers continue to plummet across the political spectrum.
     
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    No they didn't - they swung back the other way a bit like in every single midterm. You are trying to read tea leaves in a cup of coffee.
     
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    ~390 seats in one election and the House winning by the single largest popular vote margin in a midterm election is not swinging "back the other a bit."

    Trump lost more seats than get lost on average by an unpopular president.

    And his popularity has fallen even further.
     
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    Once again you have no concept of math.

    The Democratic Party suffered huge losses at every level under Obama - a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency.

    So how bout them apples.
     
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    My concept of math says that 1042 divided by the three elections is 347.33.

    And, surprisingly, 347.33 is less than 390 lost during one election cycle for Trump.
     
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    And I fully expect him to squeak out a Badger State win for a second time come November... Like I said, I actually live in the State and I actually get outside of uber liberal Dane County on a regular basis...
     
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    Whether you live there or not the political landscape has changed.
    Trump has failed to expand his base plus the support he received from independents and Republican moderates in 2016 has been steadily eroding.
     
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    How can anyone "fully expect" a "squeak" of an outcome?

    By definition, a squeak of an outcome is one that is extremely narrow.
     
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    Easy. I fully expect him to win a close race.
     
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    You're gonna be surprised as hell come November then... I'm telling you what I physically see when I physically travel around the State... Wisconsin (outside of Dane and Milwaukee Counties) LOVES Trump, whether you like it or not.

    Much of Wisconsin (again, outside of Dane and Milwaukee Counties), whether you like it or not, also thinks that this controlyavirus hoax is a complete political sham...
     
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    So there are a lot of morons in much of Wisconsin because they think "this controlyavirus hoax is a complete political sham."

    Got it.
     
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    That is utterly nonsensical. If it is close, then it is - by definition - not easy.
     
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