RFK on gun control. FINALLY...

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by modernpaladin, Jun 29, 2023.

  1. Bowerbird

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    Bannon talked him into running thinking it would split the dam vote. Looks like it will split the conservative vote instead:p
     
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    As though I really care what you think.
     
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    You truly think you're saying something of meaning, don't you? :)
     
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    I'm with ya there. And yeah, I wouldn't put it past the CIA to pull something like that. It's also interesting that he's the last Democrat President who wasn't a complete POS... Well, I suppose maybe Carter wasn't either, but his policies were definitely ****.
     
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    Jimmy Carter followed the accepted 'facts' available at the time.

    Principle among them was that peak oil was in 1975
    and that because he was President from 1977-1981
    the oil price spike was going to become permanent.

    His energy saving measures were very effective and
    put OPEC in a weak position.

    His biggest failure was he didn't start a major war.
     
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    The relevance of Carter was that he was also a thinking President,
    and followed existing wisdom, just as RFK jr. is doing.

    And Pres. Carter changed some of his policies that did not work as well
    as expected, so he followed the results and he moved toward the center.

    It's evident in hindsight it was the media that rejected Carter and
    welcomed Reagan, who sold the family silver to give a temporary
    boost to the economy.

    I am convinced RFK jr 's intentions are good,
    and he is relying on the consensus of wisdom.
    I would suggest he is the best choice.

    And we must keep Donald Trump as a back up
    in case the DNC blacks out RFK jr.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Donald Trump got the big picture right, for example he didn't go in on any of our overseas military adventures,

    and there being an outsider and not owned by the military industrial complex was a big plus,

    in contrast Biden is owned and jumped into the existing conflict in Ukraine with both feet and
    made it a lot worse.

    But Donald Trump did not have the contacts to staff his departments with the right people,
    whereas RFK jr. has been fighting the big corporations in the courts for years and does
    have the right contacts and knowledge.

    I'm going to suggest Donald Trump did a good job, got the big things right,
    and that possibly RFK jr will get both the big things and the details right.
     
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    I'd be very surprised if they couldn't do it... They have 'superdelegates' which makes it a lot easier to do.

    As for the Republican side of the Uniparty bird, they have a harder time denying Trump because they don't have 'superdelegates', but they are currently trying to use the rules that they control in order to hurt Trump's chances (and to eventually try to deny him the nomination via changing the rules to keep Ron! DeSaster close enough to Trump in the delegate count and then eventually having enough rogue delegates to deny him the nomination... the lawfare against him is likely to be cited as the false pretense reasoning for going rogue on him).

    Their latest ploy is to use the fact that California's primary date is being changed to Super Tuesday as a false pretense for why they are "being forced to" (they aren't) switch the delegate rules to a proportional system rather than a system allowing for someone who gets over 50% of the vote to receive most/all delegates. --- They are doing this in order to help out their establishment boy Ron! DeSaster because Trump is absolutely CRUSHING him in California and California has the most delegates (thus they don't want Trump to end up receiving almost all or all of them).
     
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    I can end Ukraine war in one hour and reduce more death then RFK or Trump. But I am talking out of my F%%% A$$, and you should consider that my a%% doesn’t control Vladimir Putin ego.
     
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    RFK’s policies are great. Only nutty thing he is doing is running as Democrat. His supporter are on the other party, yet he is running as Democrat. What can be nuttier then that.
     
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    I don’t understand all this headache. During the GOP convention GOP should send back all the primary result back to state and ask them to send “ alternative delegates” , it’s a concept in constitution, developed recently about “alternative electoral collage” and if the candidate don’t like the election result , send the result back to state to re-consider which set of “alternative electoral collage” they should send to congress.

    Who cares who vote whom in GOP primary, at convention send all of the result back to state and have alternative delegates who support meatball Ron. Guys it’s not that hard, I understand first time you tried didn’t work, but you learnt your lesson, don’t do any breaking and beating up police, do it with civility.

    For Democrats, lucky for us, we have supper delegates. RFK has ZERO chance in DNC primary. Beside his 2nd amendment support already turn off anti vexer lefty looney from him.
     
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    I guess he didn't understand just how far his party had drifted from what it used to value. But I don't think it's 'nutty' to try to bring it back.
     
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    Maybe. I thought 'nutty' was too strong a word when the junkieturtle used it,
    but it might be that present day democrats have relativistic values,
    and with no absolutes are just going to be torpedoes going in circles.

    And of course they have totally misunderstood Pres. Putin who has absolute values,
    so they genuinely believe he is crazy or trailer trash. They just don't get it.
     
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    You nailed it. “ Used to” past tense. Democrats/ Liberals don’t live in the past. The party which wants to live in the past is Republican. He should change his party affiliation.

    In democratic party we have no room for people who are nostalgic of the days when a black man had to sit back of the bus, a brown family couldn’t move into white neighborhood or a lesbian had to hide her sexual preference. RFK dreams about those days, fine , he can move to the other party. He has no f$$$ place in democratic party.
     
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    you got that right , Putin the MF does have absolute value – killing his opponent.

    And we generally believe someone has to be crazy to support Putin the MF. Just don't get how can someone who claim to be normal support the killer. you are right " just don't get it"
     
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    None of that has anything to do with RFKs platform. You're making **** up. Why would anyone need to lie about him like that?
     
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    Does it matter. It seems like you guys’ love RFK yet he is running in a party where people don’t want him. If he is so good with policies and Republicans like him, he should run as republican. He doesn’t belong in DNC. Unfortunately idiot RFK don’t get basic politics.
     
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    You don’t trust scientist, but you trust yourself doing your own research on Facebook.
     
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    When you say “diversity of thought” you mean among white people, right? Because only 10% African American and 30% Hispanic/brown people give a f%% about conservative ideas.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's trying to be a uniter. I guess I can see why the partisanly obsessed would find that threatenning. Don't worry, there's plenty of other ways for you to keep hating the other team. May I recommend football instead of politics?
     
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    I wish there were more people in republican primary who put Trump #1 like you. I don’t believe in polls but if I pay attention I think there are more like you in GOP primary. You are right , there are more of you then Unipart RINO.

    As a Democrat I love Trump. Trump is like a “ ants in the pants” for Democrat. Any time Democrats hear the name Trump, their blood boil and they get out and vote. As a result


    GOP lost special election in 2017

    GOP lost Mid-term election in 2018

    GOP Lost Presidential election in 2020

    GOP lost special election in 2021 and lost 2 Senate position in ruby red state in GA.

    GOP lost Senate and to GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.

    GOP lost special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election by 200k. in Wi , President don’t win by more then 30K vote.


    Please, please nominate Trump. We love him.
     
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    And what better place to unite people who love to be United- Republican party.

    We, Democrat don’t like snow flake uniter, we like very divisive partisan politics. Look at our leader Joe Biden, he call 30% American people Maga crazy crowed.

    You don’t like partisan politics, may I suggest you join Sunday school choir, they hold hand and sing kumbaya.
     
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    He is still a Democrat. That part is NutJob. All his beloved worshipers are in the other party.
     
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    so what actual issues cause you to love the Dems?
     
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    During the pandemic my wife was showing me some Facebook post. Parents complaining about helping their sixth grade kid’s math problem. but the same people claim they have done their own research on virology and all other complex immunology and came to conclusion that COVId-19 is an hoax.

    These are the people who don’t trust scientists- they f$$%% can’t even do sixth grade math, but they are expert on immunology because they “Did my own research online”.
     

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