Rhode Island legalizes Gay Marriage

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by exotix, May 2, 2013.

  1. conhog

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    Yep, more of the "I demand MY rights, screw yours " mentality. Of course that swings the other way to.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's called progress. The US is catching up with all the other developed Western nations... you know... the profitable, happy nations with a high quality of living, marriage equality and very few guns among the citizenry.
     
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    I dont have to demand my guns rights, I already have them.

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    Profitable? Really? Hey, hows that Euro doing?
     
  4. conhog

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    you missed the point completely.

    We all already have our rights, and every group has someone trying to take THEIR rights away from them. We should be banding together and telling everyone that they can't take anyone's rights. Instead most people are only concerned about the rights that they agree with.

    Sad really.
     
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    Point is, I and most others, dont see Gay Marriage as a right.
     
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    "Gay marriage" as opposed to marriage equality. This has nothing to do with equality and is instead all about winning respect for homosexuals.
     
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    "Gay marriage" has nothing to do with equality. INequality by definition.
     
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    And that is idiotic. The government has no authority over marriage under the COTUS.


    How would you like it if some moron managed to get a billed passed that outlawed straight marriage?

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    And that is idiotic. The government has no authority over marriage under the COTUS.


    How would you like it if some moron managed to get a billed passed that outlawed straight marriage?
     
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    "Federal Government" doesnt consist of only the "congress"
     
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    It does in terms of making laws.

    Civics 101 bruh
     
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    Federal government has authority over who is and is not entitled to federal tax breaks and governmental entitlements. this is all that DOMA does.
     
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    Easily correctable. Get rid of marriage based government entitlements.
     
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    US Supreme Court. Where currently several law suits are demanding that the federal government dictate that marriage must include gay couples. Elementary school Social Studies
     
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    That wouldnt provide the special treatment of "gay marriage" the gays demand. Wouldnt provide the gays "respect and dignity" these courts claim that only gays have a right to.
     
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    what special treatment are they demanding?

    What respect and dignity have which courts claimed only gays have a right to?

    Look, I believe there are many militant gays who need to just shut up. There are also many anti gay militants who also need to shut up.

    The word marriage or any form thereof should not be found in any government forms or legislation. PERIOD.
     
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    The special treatment of "gay marriage" and the respect and dignity the courts believe "gay marriage" would provide.
     
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    Why not a REFERENDUM?
     
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    who defines it as gay marriage? They don't you do.

    Rational people define it simply as marriage. Otherwise you start allowing people to define things like "black marriage" and deciding that well black marriage isn't equal to white marriage and so forth.
     
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    I'm from RI. I don't have anything at all against the state recognizing a mutual commitment between two consenting adults of the same sex the same as they do between two consenting adults of the opposite sex. I do, however, have a problem with the media presenting this issue as a major issue and one that we need to polarize over and spend energy discussing. It's a no-brainer from a civil rights standpoint. Whether you are opposed to homosexuality based on your religious/moral views or not, allowing homosexuals to marry doesn't hurt you in any way while preventing them from marrying does hurt them. Get over it and move on to more important things, like the marriage of big business and big government through the influence of money on the electoral and legislative processes and/or the lack of choice in governance skirted by the false presentation of the two party corporate oligarchy as ideologically opposed when they, in fact, both support a big government for big business agenda.
     
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    ???? The title of the thread and article cited
     
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    Just like 1984-
    Peace=War
    Love=Hate
    Stopping discrimination against Homosexuals = 'special treatment'

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    Why a referendum?
     
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    Can't, one of the major problems would be a housewife whos husband dies, she would not be able to collect his SS benefits even though in reality she contributed to the funds paid in.
     
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    Conventional wisdom (that I happen to agree with) is that they'll punt on Prop 8, and find the defender's lack standing, making the District Court's ruling that Prop 8 is Unconstitutional valid. But will only apply to CA. They could, in theory, uphold the Court's decision, which, depending on how they do so, could require all 50 states to immediately allow same sex marriage. While I hope they will, I doubt it.
     
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    There is no provision in the Constitution that allows for a National Referendum. You'd have to pass an Amendment allowing for them first.
     
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    The title of the thread and article cited AND the Governor in a NY Times Article he wrote.

     

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