Rich White People, Tell Poor White People that, their Problem are Brown and black People.

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  1. grapeape

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    Another racist thread put out by the Nazi/kkk PR machine/DNC

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    BLM is told, outright, that unless they can stop all the black on black crime, they haven't the permission, to complain about being shot dead for nothin'. SAID THE WHITE PEOPLE.
     
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    Why are you people so bent on dividing this country by race/sex/religion? The best thing to ever happen to the Nazis/kkk is there new PR machine provided by the Gazis(global socialist) and people like you.
     
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    United we stand, divided we fall.............That answer the question?
     
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    Well, yeah, but I was hoping one of them would parrot whatever the establishment talking point is on the issue. We all know how the collective feels about Americans and America.
     
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    Really......

    Democrats are telling the nation that the brown and black people are taking their jobs ?

    Democrats are the ones wanting to build a wall ?

    Democrats are the ones who support the travel ban ?
     
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    Why is pointing out any problem in America, anti-american ?
     
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    It isn't.
     
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    Lines can be un-drawn.
     
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    If that helps you sleep at night then go ahead and keep that close to your pillow.

    Nobody tells them it is white people. When you see a pattern whether the pattern is white people, or brown people, or pink people, the pattern defines the problem. BLM was spawned from more than one incident where people stereotyped based on their race. Now not every incident was, but there were many. The problem in this country is that we are so politically polarized that when something happens, before we know all the facts, the right instantly takes the side of the police, and the left automatically takes the side of the victim. Me personally, I am neither of them.

    The lines have been drawn by the right. To deny that is disingenuous. There have been many threads on this very board where the claim is made that wages are down because of illegal immigration.....the brown people. I don't support the left, and their "every black person is a victim", and I honestly dontt think everyone on the right instantly thinks that when a black person is involved that they are the ones at fault.

    But it isn't the democrats who are dividing people. I find it amazing when the right accuses the left of identity politics, and then in their very next sentence uses the dog whistle.
     
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    Whose going to do it and cut their political throats in the process?
     
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    Of course the left divides people through identity politics. Consider the tons of ink used to describe and decry 'white privilege." How you can deny the race hucksterism of the left is beyond me.

    And the right does it too, of course. Stirring up racial division has been the modus operandi of American politics as long as I have been aware of it.

    If you refuse to take a side, that is fine. But who do you decide to vote for?

    BTW, I certainly don't lose sleep at night brooding over the possibility that racial politics are not at the core of all American politics. And it is not a very effective ploy to suggest that I am.

    And also, BTW, it is also a documented fact that illegal immigrants depress wages in this country. Why should not the right should not point out this fact?
     
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    I don't think it's anything nearly as considered as that. That would suggest long range plans and a solidly preferred outcome. While these may be true of the likes of Soros and other such big money, it's probably never so much as entered the heads of those bleating about 'compassion'.

    Given that 99.9% of these middle class white Progressives wouldn't last a week outside of their urbane and profoundly cushioned ivory tower existences, I suspect that the very last thing they'd want is to see same dismantled. Can you imagine if these insincere posers actually had to live the life (they don't realise) they're 'fighting for'?

    Make no mistake, this is all mostly just self-righteous posturing and puritanicalism, masquerading (very poorly) as liberalism.
     
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    1) to provide a barrier against illegal alien entry. their status as illegal is the issue, not their light brown skin.

    2) a travel ban which affects people of different races and colours, and which is designed to protect Americans of all races and colours.
     
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    Sure. The issue is: who is going to end up picking up the pieces?
     
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    I didn't say that they don't do that ? To be clear, I think they have taken it overboard in the last couple of years. But I also think that the right has come to the point where they're not even trying to hide theirs anymore. Its become very open, and I really think that Trumps election has emboldened the right and their agenda.

    I vote based on issues that are important to me. I don't vote for a "D" or an "R".

    All due respect, but I think you missed the point of the video. He was saying that it is class that uses race to divide.

    There effect on wages is miniscule when measured against the rights war on workers rights. There are currently 8 million "illegals" in the workforce, in 2009, there were 8.1. NOW, put that into perspective that most of those "illegals" are foreign workers who have overstayed their visas, not day laborers. Day laborers do exist, but when we talk about "illegals", we need to better define what that is.

    Now to be clear, all I am saying is that we need to understand what the real problem is and stay focused on that. The real problem isn't illegals driving wages down, it's the right and their war against workers that have driven wages down significantly more than Jose the day laborer has. The rights war on collective bargaining, unions, and the rights workers have in the workplace that have stymied wages so much more than those that cross the border. So the right, via Trump has convinced their followers that the real problem is Jose, and not Paul Ryan and his war on your ability to bargain in the workplace. i.e. The rich guy told the poor guys it was the brown guy who stole his wages ;)
     
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    Hows that wall on the Canadian Border coming ?

    It affects them differently. Thats the point. Being "selective" in whom you keep out......that is by definition "identity politics"
     
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    Interesting how it begins apparently making sense (though probably not historically accurate). He speaks slowly and making his points with examples. Then his speech abruptly turns into a very quick succession of nonsensical statements that are made so fast, that you don't have time to think about them. I mean "Black slaves have your job"? But the reason they are made quickly is so that nobody notices that the conclusion has absolutely nothing to do with the rest.

    But it's a great example of how gullible minds are manipulated
     
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    Seems to me the ultimate scab is the illegal immigrant. Both the D and R are owned by Wall St. and both ignored the issue of illegal immigration and for that very reason.

    And just imagine if we could magically remove those 8 million workers. I think that might have more than a "minuscule" effect on wages!
     
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    There are over 150 million workers in the workforce. So their biggest impact is right at 5% of the workforce. Then account that most of the illegal workforce is menial labor, which really only impacts one sector of the overall workforce. Then also account that many of the "illegal workforce" are those who have overstayed a work visa. I do think they have an effect, but I still believe that impact is comparatively miniscule.
     
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    Or its a better example of how people discount what they don't want to understand. The whole thing made sense to those who were willing to listen.
     
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