Rick Santorum Wins Louisiana Primary

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/25/us-usa-campaign-louisiana-idUSBRE82O00K20120325

    Santorum's plight of the inconsequential moves along. Seeing him win state after state makes you wonder, how clueless are average Americans on the issues?
     
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    And Mittens is still going to get the nomination.
     
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    Exactly. Anybody with a brain can understand this basic reality. My question is why haven't all Republicans come to this realization? Surely they know that lengthening the nomination process only weakens Mitt Romney against Barack Obama, and that Romney is one of the strongest, if not the strongest candidate on economic issues. Santorum is simply a burden upon the party, and unlike Ron Paul, he does not seem to have a purpose beyond winning the Presidency that compels him to stay in the race. He and Newt Gingrich should drop out.
     
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    Santorum lost me after the porn thing and then really lost me after he said Obama would be better than Romney.
     
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    that is pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.
     
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    See, you get it. Romney is going to be the nominee. Whether you see it as a negative result or as a positive result, it is an inevitable result. Romney does not babble on about what I refer to as the inconsequential. He stays in his wheelhouse, and frankly, the wheelhouse of every intelligent Presidential candidate in recent history, the economy.
     
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    You can't be a conservative and then say Obama would be better than Romney. it just doesn't work.
     
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    Mitt Romney isn't a conservative, and is basically the same thing as Obama.
     
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    it's one thing to play to your base, it's quite another to go over the edge. Hillary would have been better than Obama. :omfg:




    (ftfy, btw.)
     
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    I see it as positive. If he were the nominee in 2008, after the economic collapse, he would have won the election.
     
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    Mitt is what the voters want him to be...and at this point, Not_Obama is enough.
     
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    The acceptance of mediocrity at its finest. In addition, Romney is what Obama is, a corporatist and a collectivist. He is simply one that is conservative. Remember, there is another political spectrum, the authoritarian-libertarian political spectrum. While Romney is moderate to conservative on the liberal-conservative political spectrum, he is a corporatist and a collectivist on the authoritarian-libertarian political spectrum. Both those ideologies are authoritarian in nature.

    I find it intriguing that we as Americans, a group of people deemed at our nation's conception to be highly principled are willing to sell out in the name of political expediency. It is a somber reality.
     
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    no he isn't. not my any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    you don't' go to the polls with the candidates you want, you go with the ones you've got.
     
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    Unfortunately, you are correct. This is why the educated electorate needs to engage in a protest vote. Neither political party serves the best interests of the masses. You are kidding yourself if you think so. One party may have the best possible interests in mind, but those are not the same as the best interests. The best possible interests can very well be the worst for the nation.
     
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    Really?

    And tell me, other than the fact that Romney's got an (R) after his name, tell me why?

    Romney was the inventor of RoBomNey Care including the mandate.
    Romney's tax plan increases taxes on the middle class while lowering them for the wealthy

    Tell me what Romney believes in and I'll provide you a dozen quotes from Romney telling you he believes in something else.

    Willard Romney IS the emblem for the crash of 2008. He will sell your soul for an extra tenth of a point and would sell your wife and children for half that.

    You guys think the primaries have been tough on Romney when he's had a 10-1 money advantage in every primary? Wait till the playing field evens and the obama team gets hold of the Etch-a-Sketch candidate.
     
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    His tax plan is more complex than that. First, it simply extends the Bush Tax Cuts, thereby not changing the individual income tax rates for any income bracket:

    http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/shared/TaxPolicy.pdf

    You are correct that his plan reduces taxes for the wealthy. However, he does eliminate such taxes on capital gains, dividends, and interest for those making less than $200,000:

    http://taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/upload/Romney-Tax-Plan_March-1-2.pdf
     
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    Its not that one is better. Its just that they are the same thing.
     
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    Romney's plans add to the debt. So do Santorum and Gingrich's plans. Only Ron Paul's plan actually LOWERS our debt.
     
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    Correct. I have no idea how one can claim that any of the candidates besides Ron Paul are fiscal conservatives.
     
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    Mitt the pit is a walking empty hole of a candidate. He's twisted and turned so many times on so many issues that by the time he tries to untwist himself (in a general election) he will lose the enthusiasm of the most energetic group in the Republican Party, the conservatives. There in no way that Mitt-Romney-Care is going to inspire the conservatives to go to great lengths to elect him. And this will be only one of the problems that will hurt him.
     
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    Romney care was a state issue and was only 11 pages long. It was not a take over of all healthcare.

    Romney believes in the free markets.

    I could sit and list alot but he is much more and better a leader than Obama would be.
     
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    a nod from louisiana isn't a good thing and i should know


    if hell froze over and ron paul was somehow magically installed into the white house as president

    i assert that you'd see the epitome of a lame duck president for his whole term, much like his unproductive congressional career
     
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    LOL! There you go again deflecting the discussion. He's absolutely RIGHT. Ron Paul has the ONLY trustworthy and consistent record. Even if that record is "doing nothing" as you say. Of course most of us would love for the government to actually do NOTHING for a change.
     
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    He supported mandates. He supported bailouts. He will say whatever makes him popular. He was literally pro choice until about 7 years ago. I have nothing personal against pro choicers... but you need to STICK to your morals. even his people admitted that romney will be whatever guy is necessary to win. OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN EYES.
     

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