RNC Colorado 100% Crooked

Millions of Republican Voters have be disenfranchised by this rigged crooked RNC system, wall street special interest, big pharma will do anything to stop Trump to make sure wall street Hillary Clinton sells us all out. You are the last person anyone around here should be taking serious, you are rapid wall street Hillary fan.

 

/sigh

Do you get anything right?

Example: Trump's daughter most definitely IS registered to vote. If you were aware of NY, you would know that in order to vote in a primary, you must declare a party. She has not declared a party so she can't vote in the primary. That's all. And you pretend to be knowledgeable about Colorado? OK, then.

 

Once again the Tourette's like parroting of Wall Street and Hillary.

How can anybody take you seriously with your one-note broken record litany of mindless posts?

Nothing personal, just asking.

And you really do need to learn to spell (or use spell check). I can let a spelling error, or grammar, slide (every now and then)--but, you don't even try to avoid simple spelling errors.

What is a "rapid wall street Hillary fan"? Is that a contestant in the 100-yard dash?

 

You are criticizing me and YOU don't get it right??? Either you can vote or you can't. And, for the umpteenth time, Cruz knows the rules and out trumped the Trump. I don't know squat about Colorado's rules... and obviously you don't either. What we DO know is that Trump had the same access to those rules as Cruz did. Cruz read the rules, out trumped the Trump and all you have is some lame excuse as to why Trump is losing.

 

lol. Obvious. Or New York's. Closed vs. Open. Research it. Learn from it.

 

Wall street Hillary is a shill, shes no freaking democrat her son in law runs a hedge fund, this is nothing more then one big con job.

I meant "Rabid" Hillary fan like in a sickness. it may have been a Freudian slip, rapid is about the speed in which she will sell out the democrat base once elected.

 

I have had no problem admitting this over and over. Conjecture is ok. It has to be ok if we recognize that events do occur that can later not be proven. I am not convicting anyone of a crime, which requires proof. I am not demanding that you join a religion that believes the way I do. I am not criticizing your dissent from my opinion. But I do insist that my opinion can not be dismissed since it fits with certain facts we can prove: that establishment republicans are virtually unanimous in their oposition to Trump and that there is a massive amount of money at play from donors to stop Trump. You don't have to accept it. But if anyone has a single ounce of cynic in his body, it must make him go "hmmmmm...". This is conjecture, but it is not unreasonable.

The guy with the most delegates despite a potent onslaught of political and media attacks and millions of donor money was suddenly incompetent in the place where ordinary voters are least represented in the process. Your position is not unreasonable. But I would hope you can see why reasonable people disagree.

I don't get a nominee unless I wreck the corrupt parties that have set us on the road to global peasantry. I want to stop them is why I point to their corruption. I want people to see that and get on board with wrecking them. That's why I complain.

Who do I see to file for grounds to complain on the internet?

You are making an error here. What I said implies that something is not valid just because they did it that way a long time ago. See, if you rearrange it, it changes the meaning. It's something like "denying the antecedent."

 

Sorry, I can see how it doesn't really make any sense. You referenced hypothetically voting out state legislators for denying the vote and in my response, I used the pronouns to refer to the party establishment, who is the real life analog of the state legislators of your analogy. Sorry for the confusion.

My point was to vote the party out since we feel like their primary is bullocks. There is no rule that we have to vote for them so that their rules matter at all.

 

The both have to go.

Sorry that it's going to be your party first.

 

So we don't like the decision and we aren't going to vote for them because of it.

 

Trump intentionally or unintentionally completely exposed how undemocratic the USA has become. It's all about both parties elites. Party apparatchiks put themselves before the country and ordinary Americans.

What I find astonishing is that some so called democrats here defend and justify Cruz methods. People and their families were/are threatened to fall into the line. Gestapo methods and scorched earth tactics are very democratic, eh!

 

You should practice not being such a smart axx and take your own advice.

Got some contacts, however, so here is the info I have:

"TO: Interested Parties
FROM: Sean Spicer, RNC Chief Strategist and Communications Director
RE: Delegate Allocation and Selection Rules
DATE: April 15, 2016

On October 1 of last year, 50 states, 5 territories, and the District of Columbia submitted finalized plans for how delegates would be chosen for the Republican National Convention. These plans were promptly circulated to all of the campaigns and the RNC held a briefing with over 100 members of the media in attendance laying out these plans the next day on October 2.

As a party, we believe in the freedom of the states to make decisions about how they will select delegates to the National Convention. And for decades, this grassroots-driven, democratic process has been transparent and effective.

This cycle is no different.

The rules surrounding the delegate selection have been clearly laid out in every state and territory and while each state is different, each process is easy to understand for those willing to learn it.

It ultimately falls on the campaigns to be up to speed on these delegate rules. Campaigns have to know when absentee ballots are due, how long early voting lasts in certain states, or the deadlines for voter registration; the delegate rules are no different.

Whether delegates are awarded through a primary, caucus, or convention, this process is democracy in action and driven by grassroots voters across the country.

The RNC is transparent about the rules and works with campaigns on a consistent basis to address any questions surrounding the process."

 

So let's stop the charade that we have any kind of Democratic process in America anymore. The very least they could do is be up front and tell us that it doesn't matter who we vote for. If the state and/or national party doesn't like who we vote for, they'll decide themselves. Don't put people through the time, effort, and tremendous expense of having primary elections at all.

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Again you missed my point entirely. But do have a nice day.

 

Your conjecture is not based in any facts you can present but does showing a lacking in the understanding of how the process works.

Yes he was incompetent in a state where the Republicans actually choose whom their state will support at the convention and now he whines about it. Had he shown this great leadership and organizing skills and ability to hire the BEST people they would have had his campaign there fighting for the delegates instead of now wondering what happened and crying "it just wasn't fair".

If you want a nominee then go through the process of either joining an existing party or forming one of you own.

Complaint for what?

 

Who ever said it was? We have a FEDERAL system here

It depends on the state party and their particular rules, why do you believe you as a non-member of a private organization believe you have a right to determine who that private organization will select to be their nominee? They may invite you too through a caucus or an open primary, or the may chose to hold local meetings who then send their delegates to the state convention where they hash out who they want to be their nominee.

 

When were we ever a Democracy, you do realize that up until 1968 most states did not have primaries at all, the state conventions decided whom their delegations would support at the convention. You do know you have NEVER had a right to vote for the Electors of your state.

 

I kinda doubt you were going to anyway. So since Clinton is going to win the nomination based on the super-delegates which I am sure you don't like either who are you going to vote for?

 

I'm an independent, haven't been a Republican since I was in high school.

So where are you going, I know of no other parties that are using a primary system to select their nominee they are all using the state convention system. Why aren't you whining about them, the Libertarians, the Socialist, the Greens........

 

It doesn't matter HOW the states do it. What matters is how the RNC does it at convention. I must be smoking something today that is screwing up the words I read here. Does anybody else understand that the RNC will choose the candidate they want to run in the general election and what has happened so far in ANY state won't matter if the people voted for somebody the party bosses don't want?

 

Of COURSE it matters DUH. It matters how the elect them, and how the candidates have to win them, how they apportion them, it matters what commitment rules they have (how many ballots they have to stay committed). It all starts on the local level.

The delegates at the convention will elect the candidate at the convention, no one wins until they get 1237 as much as Trump wants to claim otherwise. It Trump gets there with the 1237 needed to win on the first ballot he will win the nomination. If he does not win on the first ballot I predict someone else will win the nomination ESPCIALLY if Trump throws a hissy fit and orders his delegates to walk out, they will not be obligated to so on his order but if enough do then more than likely Cruz would get it.

Nothing ahistorical, nothing being "stolen", everything fair. This is the Republican Party picking IT'S nominee. Whether Mr. Trump likes it or not THEY get to make the rules and their primary goal is to see the most electable + holder of their party's positions to the nomination.

Geez talk about stealing look at the Democrat side, Clinton is going to win it because of the party selected delegates, the bosses, the super-delegates. It's not even the grass roots delegates.

 

I know how it works. And I think you'll find grass roots delegates difficult to come by at either convention. But let's just say you missed my point and that's okay. Seems a lot of people do.

 

No I think you'll find most are local party officials or elected local officials of the party who support the candidate under whose name they ran except for about a third of the Democrat delegates which are hand picked by the party to vote for the DNC choice of nominee.

 

I will write in Donald Trump and have decided to vote straight D if the gop's attempt to screw Trump is successful. I was not going to vote at all. But now I will vote D down ticket out of revenge. And I won't be the only one.

 

The reason we have a two party system is because people thought they got to vote for the nominees.

People like you, who support not having a vote, are on the fringes. That is why Trump is surging in the polls.

 

You should try to comprehend your stance on this. When people learn about the private nature of the parties and delegate allocation, most of them condemn the obvious corruption and seek to change those policies. Failing that, or recognizing the futility, they stop supporting the parties and maybe stop watching politics bs.

Understanding that the only way to change things is to educate the masses about the system while expecting them to have the moral aptitude to recognize it's failures makes it seem impossible.

You are a person who apparently understands the process, but lacks the analytical ability or the moral wherewithal to see that this is an undue power grab by undeserving people who, most importantly, DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

You also seem oblivious to the fact that we can use what voting rights we DO HAVE CONSTITUTIONALLY, to demand even more voting rights.

You also seem unaware of the somewhat recent historical developments that FORCED the parties to (kinda sorta) allow votes in their primaries. The people demanded it and they had to do it.

People like you who understand about one tenth of the actual issue, but believe and insist that is all there is to know, threaten to dismantle all that the citizens have worked so hard for in recent decades. And you threaten to halt the BREAKTHROUGH that we are on the verge of with Trump since the above mentioned "kinda sorta" is being exposed.

You are the problem here and it's because you think you are smart, when you are actually very very average.