Romney's "pink slips"

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  1. hilbert

    hilbert New Member

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    Can one of you explain to me how a GOPper millinaire like Romney whose daddy owns AMC gets "pink slips"?
     
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    AMC the failed US car company? Or Albany Medical Center? Appalachian Mountain Club? American Mathematicians Competitions? AMC Theaters? AMC Television?
     
  3. hilbert

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    "American Motors", of course. "American Mathematics Corporation" doesn't even exist (from my personal expertise] and likely many of these others don't either, but I rather not reseach these for a smart-ass who is too lazy to check things himself.
     
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    My but aren't we touchy??


    Are you saying Romney got fired by his daddy??
     
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    I think the message is a little different.

    The Government let AMC fail...there was no bailout of a broken business plan.
    That is free market capitalism at work.
    Obama bailed out the GM auto Union and taxpayers now own 60 % of GM.
    Look at all those closed GM dealerships around the country ..all those pink slips that the UNION and OBAMA forced upon the middle class.
    While they had a safe and secure pay check.

    You think Romney is afraid of this message and Obama 's planned attack ?
    Think of the millions of unemployed and failed green companies and jobs Obama threw away for political gain.The billions in $$$ chasing a dream...
    Obama and the UNIONS DID NOT INVEST OR LOSE ONE DIME.
    America lost.
    Romney will kick butt on this topic and win in a land slide.
     
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    Stop it! you are just confusing liberal republicans that love Mitt
     
  7. BuckNaked

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    Actually taxpayers only own 26.5% of GM, it did own 61%, but that has changed, not to interrupt your rant, but not getting facts straight like that will not help in any true debate.
     
     
    Everything democrats have done they learned and carried on from the republicans. The bail outs and the hording was the republican plan all along, uh, excuse me, the two party plan all along. Neither party is/has done anything to actually create jobs. They have protected their true bosses at each every turn.
     
     
    Romney's "investment firm" in any other situation would be a con-artists gold mine. They bought up failing companies fired most of the employees, "COOKED" the books, and sold a sow's ear (damaged goods) as if it were silk purse, and legally got away with it. The people and investors that purchased these defective companies almost all went broke/bankrupt because of the deception.
     
     
    What Romney and his band of merry shysters did was like putting a coat of paint over the black mold in a house and selling it to unsuspecting mark. No different than the scams of selling a car with a bad transmission, after dropping some saw dust in it to keep it running for a few days, or selling a bridge with a fake title, or pawning off a gold painted lead brick to a fool, and departing with their money.
     
     
    He is a con-artist, and he is working on his greatest con, assuming the most powerful position in the world, and only the lord knows what damaged goods he will be selling the public before it is all said and done.
     
     
    And as far as this thread is concerned, Romney has never had to "worry" about being fired, losing his home, or having to wonder where his families next meal is coming from. The average weekly paycheck for most working Americans is nothing to him, a nickel in a fountain in comparison.
     
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    You misunderstand.

    Mittens was worried that they wouldn't have enough pink slips to give out...
     
  9. MnBillyBoy

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    Ist off..

    Romney was not hired by his DADDY'S firm after college..that was
    Huntsman ?

    He did work as a security guard at the plant ..boy I bet he earned millions doing that..and he was hired and Paid AS A beginning ASSOCIATE NOT A CEO. So for the 1st several years it WAS LEAN..he was not that successful..TRY reading.

    2nd argument about GM ONLY being 20% something owned by the taxpayer.
    Has the GM business model improved or only been given a reprieve?
    DID you have a say in the takeover and bailout ?
    I sure didn't and it was my money Obama risked ..not his or the Unions..No comment on that is there ?

    Finally you get a pinkslip when you fail.
    Obama is about to learn that most basic principle of economics.
    He will cry..nash his teeth..spin about race as Some of those who get pinkslips often do.

    Romney hasn't failed at any step in his life to deserve that pinkslip.He's had failures like the rest of us..but he is an American success story.A person who's faith in America remained strong during those failures.

    The fact he doesn't use his minority religion like Obama uses his minority position should speak loud and clear. You can achieve success regardless of your Religion..Race or starting place in Life.
    The Obama message of Government entitlements and taxing someone else at some mythical FAIR SHARE rate is just un American.
    That FAIR RATE would just expand as LOSERS decide not to participate.

    When the Pink slip is not FEARED it means you are participating in a winning way.You are NOT A LOSER...and you will not need any Government to give you stuff in order to receive a VOTE.

    Obama's Pink slip is being written now...
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/04/us-gm-idUSTRE7730JW20110804

    So I think the answer to your silly question would YES...GM's business model obviously has improved. And Buddy...Even the president and Union members pay taxes...

    Tell me...HOW do you figure Obama USES his minority position?
    By appearing in public so we can all see the tone of his skin?

    SHAME on Obama for letting us see his skin colour!
    Bad Mulatto man...Bad Man...

    Comon...get a grip...
     
  11. BuckNaked

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    Romney? When did he do that? Summer job in High School?
     
     
    His bio reads like any other poor little rich kid who takes advantage of what he was born with. Born into wealth graduated High school, went to college, earned numerous degrees, became executive then CEO of multi billion dollar investment firm by age 36, buys his way into politics, becomes a governor, and now has his sites set on POTUS.
     
     
    Don't see had to work for a living anywhere? No rags to riches story? No self made millionaire? No worries in fairy tale existence what so ever?
     
     
    Am I missing something?
     
     
    The only thing we are agreeing on at this point is Obummer needs to go and 1/2 of the same two party scam needs to go.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Envy is very ugly.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    "owns" AMC went out a long time ago after Renault bought it and had their financial problems in France.

    Maybe you should do some of that research you refuse to do.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    Who told you all that garbage? Where do you get it?

    Here go learn
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7108500491449164.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

    "Certainly Bain Capital made sure that its investment partners were paid first, but the larger truth is that the invisible hand worked pretty well. Notice that because the overall job statistics for Bain investments are by all accounts positive, many critics attack the Romney record with claims about private equity in general. The left is cheering a study commissioned by the Census Bureau that found that companies bought by private-equity firms suffer more job losses soon after a buy-out than similar firms that didn't experience buy-outs.

    But this is hardly surprising since the companies were acquired in part because they were underperforming. The critics also don't mention that the Census study found that firms acquired in private-equity transactions created more new jobs in the ensuing decade. Imagine what might have happened if Chrysler or GM had been bought by private equity two or three decades ago. They might have been turned around much earlier, at far less pain to fewer workers, and without any taxpayer cost. "
     
  15. BuckNaked

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    Just pointing out the facts and the obvious reality of the situation. If it (reality) is to hard for you swallow don't bite. Romney hasn't got a clue as to the plight of the average American. It's time these rich/elites stopped lying about it.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Naw just venting your envy.

    I am an average American, what is my "plight"?
     
  17. MnBillyBoy

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    Yes..you are missing a lot ...try reading and not acting on your feelings to describe someone you dont like

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_romney

    Romney was born in Detroit, Michigan.[1] He was the youngest child of George W. Romney, who by 1948 had become an automobile executive, and Lenore Romney (née LaFount). His mother was a native of Logan, Utah, and his father had been born in an American Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico.[2]

    ( A guy whose family has to run away to Mexico over religious prosecution ..becomes the auto executive and governor of Michigan ? That was Mitts dad..I find that a great American life story. )

    Before Romney came on, the event was running $379 million short of its revenue benchmarks.[90] Plans were being made to scale back the games to compensate for the fiscal crisis and there were fears the games might be moved away entirely.[91] The Games had also been damaged by allegations of bribery involving top officials, including prior Salt Lake Olympic Committee president and CEO Frank Joklik. Joklik and committee vice president Dave Johnson were forced to resign.[92] Romney's appointment faced some initial criticism from non-Mormons, and fears from Mormons, that it represented cronyism or gave the games too Mormon an image.[27]
    Romney revamped the organization's leadership and policies, reduced budgets, and boosted fund raising. He soothed worried corporate sponsors and recruited many new ones.[87][93] He admitted past problems, listened to local critics, and rallied Utah's citizenry with a sense of optimism.[87] Romney worked to ensure the safety of the Games following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks by ignoring those who suggested the games be called off and coordinating a $300 million security budget.[89][94] He became the public face of the Olympic effort, appearing in countless photographs and news stories and even on Olympics souvenir pins.[87] Romney's omnipresence irked those who thought he was taking too much of the credit for the success, or had exaggerated the state of initial distress, or was primarily looking to improve his own image.[87][93] Overall he oversaw a $1.32 billion budget, 700 employees, and 26,000 volunteers.[90]

    Despite the initial fiscal shortfall, the Games ended up clearing a profit of $100 million,[95] not counting the $224.5 million in security costs contributed by outside sources.[96] Romney broke the record for most private money raised by any individual for an Olympics games, summer or winter.[89] His performance as Olympics head was rated positively by 87 percent of Utahns.[97] Romney and his wife contributed $1 million to the Olympics, and he donated to charity the $1.4 million in salary and severance payments he received for his three years as president and CEO.[98]

    End.

    I can go on and on...What as Obama ever run before he was elected that had any breath of experience that comes close to this 3 year period?
    In fact what other civil politician does?
    What has Paul even come close to in his years as anything ?

    The Romney story is one of religious persecution..hard work.. success and failures..and ZERO CORRUPTION along the way. They are NOT THE KENNEDY'S..The HILTON'S..or some rich kid running on daddy's coattails.

    By character assignation you show yourself a fool...you are entitled to your opinion ..but not allowed to re write history or take stuff out of context to advance some made up charge.

    The life story of ROMNEY V OBAMA is one where hard work and ZERO government help to create a success to one of Obama's complete lack of detail about his educational records and earlier support.
    We know Obama had no successful company experiences..we know he never turned anything around budget wise..we think he is another Chicago style Corrupt politician...

    I WILL BET RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT ROMNEY THAN PRESIDENT OBAMA.

    You will certainly know more of his last 20 years than Obama ever showed of his previous 20 years.

    I do wonder why..
    Why Obama fears the Romney guy.
     
  18. BuckNaked

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    The company made money off of corporate raiding, it’s fact. They sold companies knowing they were set up to fail. Many of the companies pulled themselves out of the slump in better economic times, but that doesn’t mean that Bain, or Romney for that matter created the jobs later obtained. They took what they could from the companies and dumped them as fast as they could while they had raided them for all they were worth.
     
    Get real. These are republicans attacking republicans here, and yes Obummer and his crew will be all over this if Romney gets the nod.

    Romney is not any where near an average American, he’s not even an above average American. He is an elitist, using his wealth and the power he was born with to succeed, always has been and always will be, especially in this plutocracy we call America.
     
    http://moneymorning.com/2012/01/10/how-bain-capital-could-sink-mitt-romney/
     
     
     
    Bain Capital: Capitalists or Corporate Raiders?
     
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    No envy, reality. Say it with me. THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

    And the way you talk you are not an average American by any manipulated definition.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    No your whole post is just green with envy.

    I am as average as you can possibly get so what is my "plight"?
     
  21. BuckNaked

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    Billy boy, his daddy might have been a self made man but Mitt isn't or wasn't by any stretch of the imagination. Lot's of people from 1900-1970 could/did make it in those days. Capitalism still existed, and crony capitalism and the best government corporate money could buy hadn't fully developed and engulfed the nation at that point.
     

    Where is it stated that he was a security guard? That was the original question.
     
     
    If you really cared about ousting Obummer you wouldn't be cheerleading for the Romney's or the Newt's. These people are the epitome of what constitutes corporate cronies. They are the problem. They helped bring us the Obummer administration.
     
     
    I know enough about the both of them to know they are the problem not part of any solution.
     
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    You wish. :rolleyes:
     
     
     
     
    How should I know who or what you are? You could be a spoiled little rich kid laying pool side at mommy and daddy‘s estate, or a bored welfare queen ready to download #5, of your illegitimate clan. It's an anonymous forum here. Try and stop with the grandstanding and stick to the facts.
     
     
    The fact is Romney is a rich/elite, corporate crony, who used to run a corporate raiding investment firm, that eliminated more jobs than it ever created.
     
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    No I don't wish anyone to be filled with envy nor to base their politics on it, it is quite ugly. 

     
     
    I told you, so what is my "plight" you don't seem able to come up with any in spite of you declaring they exist.
     
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    The parking lot in front of Cranbrook, the boarding school outside Detroit that Mr. Romney attended as a day student in the 1960s, was crammed with flashy cars, gifts from top auto executives to their children.

    There was no sparkling car for Mitt Romney, however. His parents had refused to allow their four children to own cars in high school, even though George Romney ran American Motors, the giant manufacturer. It was an early lesson in moderation from his father, who had a poor, itinerant childhood, could not afford to finish college and paid for his honeymoon by selling aluminum paint out of the trunk of his car.

    "I don't think George ever forgot that," said Walter DeVries, a longtime friend and colleague.

    The Romneys lived in an affluent suburb, Bloomfield Hills, with a housekeeper and two refrigerators in the kitchen. But George Romney still required his children to mow the lawn, shovel snow, rake leaves, weed the garden. "I know he worried that because my brother, sisters and I had grown up in a prosperous family, we wouldn't understand the lessons of hard work," Mitt Romney wrote.

    Friends learned to navigate Mitt Romney's packed schedule of weekend chores and his shift as a security guard at a local Chrysler plant. "You couldn't do anything on Saturday," recalled a classmate, Phillip Maxwell, "because Mitt had to clean the basement."

    Mr. Romney was entranced by the sleek, supercharged vehicle: at the end of a spin around downtown Boston, he turned to the employee, Marc Wolpow, and marveled, "Boy, I really wish I could have one of these things."

    Mr. Wolpow was dumbfounded. "You could have 12 of them," he recalled thinking to himself.

    But Mr. Romney had insisted on driving an inexpensive, domestic stalwart that looked out of place in the company parking lot -- a Chevrolet Caprice station wagon with red vinyl seats and a banged-up front end.



    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11345/1196219-84-0.stm#ixzz1jAmkO73w

    When Tagg was 16, he lost an inexpensive anchor off the coast of Cape Cod, Mass., where the family had a summer home. Finding the 18-inch-long weight at the bottom of the ocean, he told his father, was a lost cause.

    Mr. Romney insisted that Tagg search for it, but after the teenager refused, Mr. Romney excused himself from the guests he had been entertaining, put on a bathing suit and a snorkel mask, and set out in a rowboat with his son.

    "We rowed back and forth for about 25 minutes," Tagg, now 41, said in an interview. "Then I remember him jumping out of the boat. He had spotted it, and he went down and pulled out the anchor."



    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11345/1196219-84-0.stm#ixzz1jAn7VuZM

    Mr. Romney brought the same austerity to the companies in which Bain invested, like Staples, the office supply retailer. As a Staples board member, he successfully negotiated with the chief executive to reduce his base salary by $100,000, arguing that the money was better invested in the company and that the chief executive would be rewarded with a higher stock price.

    "He always had a thoughtful reason for why it was in your interest to share in his frugality," said Tom Stemberg, the chief executive.



    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11345/1196219-84-0.stm#ixzz1jAnNkOeO

    An Eye on the Bottom Line

    At Bain Capital, Mr. Romney scolded colleagues for flying first class. He batted away requests for high-end office decorations (preferring faux-wooden desks). To set an example, he ate bag lunches in front of his computer.

    Executives at the firm found it amusing: the business was awash in profits, but the boss still sweated the smallest possible expenses.

    Geoffrey S. Rehnert, then a managing director, recalled arriving at the office one day in 1986 brandishing a cellphone, an expensive new technology at the time. Mr. Romney lit into him, demanding to know why a pay phone on the road would not suffice. He eventually relented, but, Mr. Rehnert said, "you could tell it was painful for him.



    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11345/1196219-84-0.stm#ixzz1jAoJByof

    End for now..I CAN go on and on..Does this sound like a guy with a golden spoon ? Everything he has he earned.
    Does this sound like a corporate raider out to screw workers or a guy with REAL CONSERVATIVE VALUES.

    Read the link about those expensive homes...the ones you hate so much...

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11345/1196219-84-0.stm#ixzz1jAmOhxth
     
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    So is baring false witness. (hint, hint)
     
     
     
     
    Well a plight is defined as a predicament - state - condition - situation - pledge, usually related to a struggle for survival, dangerous, difficult, or otherwise unfortunate situation.
     
    If you are an average American you most likely have an underpaying job and you work for somebody else, don’t have a college degree, live basically paycheck or government check to the next. You most likely have a kid or two if you are over 30 and paying some form of child support, probably divorced if you’ve ever been married at all. Own at least one running mode of transportation, a couple video consoles, 2 or more TV’s, but don’t own your own home or have any considerable wealth to speak of, and you are probably 20-30 lbs over your healthy body weight, but still won’t stop eating at Macky’D’s. Oh and you name is probably not Bob, Rick, or Joe or any derivative there of.
     
    But you are not an average American because as the snob you seem to represent in most of your posts, the average American disgusts you, and is beneath you according to your upbringing, since you have that air of arrogance and supremacy about you.
     
     
    Now this isn’t anything personal and was only done at your request, but as an educated guess, how did I do?
     
     

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