Russian forces employing new poison gas grenades, says armament research centre

They have been caught breaking the fence convention by using poison gas grenades at least 81 times in the month of Dec, 2023.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/25/7438823/index.amp

 

Throw a normal grenade and they would die in seconds

 

Cluster bombs ok, gas grenades not. Got it.

 

Yet this violates both the Geneva and Hague conventions. Use of poison gas is a war crime. Own that, my Putin excuse making friend.

 

Cluster bombs are legal under the Geneva Convention where as poison gas is not. Russia is a signatory of the Geneva Convention but is committing war crimes in violation of it. I realize you are desperate to deflect from that reality but it isn't working.

 

Someone needs to go in there and straighten them out but it should not be the United States responsibility.

Let the rest of the freeloading NATO members step their ass up to the plate for once.

I would love to see a list of member nations to see how much each NATO member has contributed to the Ukrainian war effort.

Somehow I'm thinking the United States is probably covered at least 80% of it and continues to do so.

Let someone else go fight the proxy war

 

ukie nazis have been using gas since 2022 and cluster bombs on civilians since 2014 (and petal mines since 2014)

pravda, another ukie propaganda outlet

spewing 'ghost of kyiv' type garbage

 

Maybe instead of making guesses you should spend 5 minutes doing research. Of course, some people prefer feelings to facts, which is generally a disincentive to do research.

 

Send in the cannon fodder.

 

It is a type of tear gas that is commonly in use for tear gas sprays available at local stores.

It should not be confused with cyanide, another agent used in chemical warfare, which has the chemical structure CN−.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenacyl_chloride

 

Well....the Mafiosi DID invade Bill....UAF can use what means necessary..seems you have a problem with that.

 

Yes, my goal is to oppose anyone trying to whip up hatred for Russians, as I don't think this leads to anywhere good for anyone.

 

Is that why you can't tell us which country has matched the contribution of the United States?

 

First it was 'the US is paying 80%', now it is 'you can't tell us a country that has contributed more'. Just keep shifting those goalposts, it tells me you know you are just making stuff up so you'll keep shifting the terms until you find one that must be correct no matter how meaningless.

You could remedy that in 5 minutes of googling and reading. Have to wonder why you don't. Force of habit? What motivates a person to just spout fact free BS when they could use that same time to inform themselves? I have no point of reference for this personally, so any insight is welcome.

 

I don't know..... What motivates a person to go on to a political forum and get their jollies by flaccidly attempting to insult people they don't know?

How about we actually stick to the topic shall we?

 

So no insights then. Can't say I'm surprised.

As for the topic, hard to stick to it when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I have already informed myself. Maybe you should do the same if 'the topic' really is important.

 

And yet you still can't and will not tell us what other country has contributed at least $100 billion dollars.

I can't say that I'm surprised

 

Why is this not a surprise? Vlad is a true despot.

 

You know both sides been using cluster bombs right? actually Russia's been using cluster bombs before the United States decided to give Ukraine cluster bombs

 

Here is what AI Bard has to say:
The answer to whether the Geneva Convention forbids the use of chloroacetophenone, also known as CN or tear gas, is nuanced and depends on the specific context:

General Prohibition:

• The Geneva Convention, specifically the 1925 Geneva Protocol, prohibits the use of asphyxiating, poisonous or other gases, and of all analogous liquids, materials or devices.

Chloroacetophenone's classification:

• Chloroacetophenone is not considered a lethal chemical weapon under the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), which came into force in 1997.
• However, it is classified as a riot control agent due to its temporary incapacitating effects, causing severe eye irritation, coughing, and vomiting.

Use in warfare:

• The Geneva Protocol's applicability to riot control agents is debated. Some argue that any chemical that causes temporary harm falls under the broad prohibition, while others maintain it only targets lethal or permanently disabling agents.
• State practice is inconsistent: some countries consider tear gas use in warfare a violation, while others do not.

Therefore:

• The use of chloroacetophenone in warfare against combatants is potentially prohibited under the Geneva Protocol, depending on interpretation and specific circumstances.
• However, its use against civilians is unambiguously prohibited under the Geneva Conventions' general provisions protecting civilians from unnecessary suffering.

Additionally:

• The use of excessive or indiscriminate force with any weapon, including riot control agents, could still violate the laws of war.

 

Poison gas is a war crime according to the Geneva Convention where as cluster bombs are not. BYT Russia has been using cluster bombs since the first day of its war of aggression against Ukraine so spare me your fake hand wringing over Ukraine just getting parity with Russia.

 

The propagandist's job is to lie and that is all Russian propagandists ever do.

 

Here is an example of Russian propaganda lying

https://youtube.com/shorts/oI_qO7OtsXk?si=vbceZ_In6FlmfG_R

 

Factually, as a percentage of GRP several NATO members have provided more aid than the U.S..

 

https://defence-blog.com/russian-troops-use-gas-grenades-with-cn-agent/?amp

More evidence of Russian war crimes of using poison gas expressly and specifically prohibited by the Geneva Convention. The Geneva Convention also specifically states that use of banned poison gas is a capital offense punishable by the death penalty for the entire chain of command of the offending power.