Santorum defenders, explain this...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...rick-santorum-banning-business-192050828.html

I don't hate conservatives or republicans. But I do despise social conservatism and the extreme religious wing of the republican party. Social conservatives like Rick Santorum are exactly the same as the democrats. They are the same in that they both believe in expanding the role of the government in our personal lives. There is no way you can vote for a man like Rick Santorum who runs on a platform of smaller government, yet is making public announcements such as these that completely contradicts everything that he and the republican party stands for. It is issues like this that will never get him the nomination or the presidency. What an idiot, and all the people who support him too. Have fun losing your election bid this year.

 

The republicans have never been for limited government. They just lie about it. The democrats, however, can never get enough.

 

I agree. But the worst offenders are social conservatives by a long shot. They are the only ones who openly contradict themselves by speaking such nonsense and promising to jam religious tradition down the throats of every American whether we want it or not. I don't believe that a Santorum presidency would be able to ban pornography in this country. The man has a law degree and should understand how unconstitutional that is. And seeing as how profitable porn is, I'm sure the industry would be able to get enough lobbyists in Washington to prevent such a thing from happening. But I still hate that politicians like Santorum think that the rest of the country should be subjected to his catholic beliefs and traditions. This man must be trying to sabotage his own bid for the white house!!

 

I am also learning to hate the social conservatives more and more, but still have trouble with weighing that against these anti-liberty (1st, 2nd amendment) "liberals."

It's all a joke to me at this point. Neither party cares about individualism and freedom.

 

It's because we live in an age of politics now where loyalty to the party comes first and everything else comes second. Its absolutely cracked.

 

There's no doubt about that, and the more people who reach this critical depth that we have, the better off we will be.

 

Santorum wants to use the present platform to educate the women in America to the fact that their sexual behavior, as a group, is creating an abuse to the children of the next generation.

That is all.

There is no legislation that will stop the adolescents from having abortion in the millions every year, nor the never wed, unmarried Single Mothers from increaing the illegitimacy by another 10% this year.

No Law will save us as a Nation from the debt of half a trillion dollars in the 2012 Federal budget for Welfare.

The Law will still arrest 70% of the criminal element which have been raised by Single Mothers.

All Santorum wants to do is broadcast the failed democratic attempts to stem the increases in Single Mothers and lower the Welfare cost by aborting black babies.
Which has not worked anyway.

Abortion has remained the same every year for 45 years, since Roe V Wade.
But illegitimacy and Welfare has grown fast.






Welfare Budget = Military Budget

 

Santorum can change this by informing the American women, in general, that their kids are the ones suffering from a culture of unabated sexual promiscuity and distain for prudent decent sexual behavior as Bill Maher will demonstrate every show:















Statistics on Fatherlessness
CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

It’s a Fact
Here’s why:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).

80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison


Children from fatherless homes are*:

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:

• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
• 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
• 24.3 times more likely to run away
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
• 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
• 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
• 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
• 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
• 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions


Daughters who live in mother only homes are
92% more likely to divorce**

 

All you are supporting are religious traditions that want to outlaw anything that is remotely considered sexual taboo by catholic standards. I understand part of your argument that sexual activity outside of wedlock can be a burden to our society and lead to personal problems for individuals and make raising kids in an unstable environment much more difficult.

But what business does the government have telling me what I can or can't do with my penis? I don't need the president of the United States to tell me to abstain from sex or remain a virgin until I'm married. Its none of his business to tell me what I can or can't watch on TV because it conflicts with his catholic beliefs. People like him are tyrants that don't give two sh!ts about what the rest of the country wants. This man is more content with transforming our culture and society that mirrors his own little bubble. F^ck him and all of social conservatism.

 

Democrats believe in Roe Vs Wade---a federal restriction.

Conservatives believe in the constitution---which alots individual States to decide social matters.

The question is...which is more totaltarian?

Liberals and people who support them have a totaltarian stance. They want the federal government to decide social issues. So yes...a decent republican will want limited government through the states rather then totaltarian federal rule.

 

Our government used to operate that way. Until the interests of the states began to conflict with each other and eventually pushed us into a Civil War. I don't see our country moving back in that direction anytime soon.

 

I wholeheartedly agree OP. Santorum has no chance of winning I think, but the problem is that a lot of people support his position on things, and would want to try to control others.

 

How is Santorum going to "educate" me? Is he going to send us all a bunch of pamphlets or something?I am a young American woman that I guess he assumes is promiscuous, because of course all unmarried woman are naturally sluts. The fact that someone thinks its okay to assume they know about my sexual behaviors and then imply that I am somehow responsible for child abuse and the downfall of society because of misplaced suspicious over what they THINK I do is pretty insulting. If you cannot see how this is offensive to women, especially younger women like me then you are really blind.

I think out of wedlock births aren't the best thing. Some women can't help their situation however. There are reasons that a household may be fatherless besides the mother's promiscuity.

One of my friends heard about this and felt offended by him. Her parents had her out of wedlock though they married shortly after. She felt he was insulting her family. Apparently Santorum thinks its a smart idea to insult everyone.

 

Pretty much this. This is why Santorum would never win a general election. His views belittle women and are condescending to all Americans. As if this man knows whats best for us regardless of what our needs and wants are. When it comes to his religious views on sex and women, he isn't that far off from the Taliban.

 

the constitution intentionally gave more power to the states. It is the feds that have usurped that power and thus enslave us more with each administration.

 

A weak central government is what brought the Civil War upon us. There were clearly economic and social inequalities building up for years that the federal government could not mediate to prevent the breakout of war. I agree however that at times the federal government has too much power and that politicians of both parties today are slowly increasing its size and power. But sometimes the federal government gets it right and should have the ultimate authority on certain issues.

What I dont agree with however are people like Santorum that want to force religious traditions upon people who don't even share the same religion as him. The constitution also grants the freedom of religion and that Congress has no business dictating religious doctrine upon us. As a lawyer Santorum should know better. But he prefers to be a tyrant and would prefer to see us all fall in line like good little Catholics.

 

Civil war was all about tariffs forced upon the south to make them purchase textiles from the north instead of Europe. In return, Europe stopped buying southern cotton, and destroyed the southern economy.

Lincoln was a racist and didn't care about slavery.

Plenty of other nations resolved slavery without war.

History is full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Well I do not think Santorum will swing you single women his way because after all, you are the problem.
You feminists see the power of your monopoly on sexual favors.

Why would you give it up?


Santorum will need speak with the married women especially with children, who recognize the facts for what they actually are.

Though they themselves were sexually "liberated" most likely during the 14 years they had to wait before marriage, they now fear for their own kids.

They will accept that America can not become totally Single Mother families and survive.
They will hear his case against Welfare getting larger than the 50% it is now headed for, and they will understand what Single Mother families do to make their kids the criminal element.

This straight talk will garnish half the women voters which is enough to beat Obama who believes we need abort 2.5 million illegitmate babies no the present 1.2 million.
They will see that Obama is still praying that Sex Education will have these young people obtain and use the free rubbers and pills the tax payers will supply, even though 45 years of Safe Sex talk has failed.

What women will undwerstand about Rick Santorum is that he has o intwrest in politically changing a culture that is really up to what people decide to do, once they see that 75% of all our social problems are due to behaviors of people raised in a Single Mother family.

Mood.
Santorum is setting a mood for the culture away from wide open sexual promiscuity and Bill Maher's teachings.

 

You lump all women together and ignore the 50-18 that actually align right now with Santorum.

You need to differentiate between single never married feminists and their matronly mothers who insist on legal abortions in order to take care of the daughters little mistakes.

The married women see what Santorum is saying about the cost of half the country being on Welfare and voting for the democrats who will give them more benefits.
They see the crime in the inter-cities when super large groups of Single Mothers all reside together.

They see the peer pressure on their own kids and fear what will happen to them.


Rick is a roll model the country needs because men like Clinton can not realy raise these issues.
Men like Obama can not chance the Welfare vote or the Homosexual lobby or the atheist college professors who see no problem from their ivory tower vantage point.

 

I don't think you know what a social conservative is.

 

Monopoly on sexual favors? What does that even mean? Do you think that I am some kind of prostitute or something??? Because I am unmarried I must automatically be having promiscuous sex?? O.O

Do you actually believe this, or are you trolling me? For the record I don't a boyfriend. Therefore no sex. I have never had an abortion. In fact I've never been pregnant!! Now that you know all about my personal life do you feel any better? No wait...I guess you can't trust a woman. After all women are daughters of Eve.

Single mother families are not the bastions of evil you are painting them as. After all, men leave their wives. Sometimes they are widowed. What about the father's responsibility in this? I mean women can't get pregnant by themselves you know. And what if its a single father household? Are single dads immoral as well? No one is mentioning fathers at all in this... They are important for kids too.

Kids ARE better off with two parents. But it is unrealistic to expect that every person is going to come from that background.

 

Democrats do not believe that, they never have.
It's a myth manufactured by the rightwing propaganda machine, just like the idiotic 'gun grabber' myth.
I'm surprised anyone falls for it really.

 

It is if you only look at the parts you want to look at, like the example above.
It's factually correct but life and politics can rarely be condensed to a a couple of lines.
Tariffs were part of what was going on in the lead up to the civil war, but only a very small part.
By todays yard stick EVERYONE was a racist in the 1860's.
Attempting to rewrite history is whats wrong, not the history itself.

 

According to Santorum's logic, and the logic of his supporters, you are a dumb naive creature who needs to be guided by man. You can't make it on your own and you need a man to straighten you out and cleanse you of all you're sin. You are evil and a burden to society. But if you have a husband he can fix you.

That is really f^cked logic. And women are not idiots. They can see through this idiocy. Dave, don't bother telling me about mothers who agree with Santorum. Because the one thing most women will not tolerate is a man telling them whats best for them without even considering what their needs or concerns are.

And Santorum's beliefs in banning things like pornography and indecency from our TVs and internet is never going to get him elected. He has no right as a legislator or an executive officer to tell me I can't jerk off to porn. He has no right to tell me I can't have sex before marriage. He has no right to tell me I can't have a choice of using contraception. Whether or not it is realistic that Santorum could actually prohibit these things from our life is not the issue. I just can't vote for someone who believes they should dictate aspects of my personal life like that.

 

Both parties expand the role of government. People like Santorum publicly state they favor big government when they talk about banning pornography or contraception. It completely contradicts what they argue about against democrats. That was the comparison I was making.