Sarah Palin: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism'

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  1. Pax Aeon

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    "Another conservative is calling “crony capitalism” on Donald Trump’s deal with Carrier, albeit an unexpected one — Sarah Palin.

    In an op-ed for the website Young Conservatives, the former Alaska governor allowed that the details behind the manufacturer’s decision to keep some 1,000 jobs in Indiana at the president-elect’s behest, rather than move them to Mexico, are not yet clear. But touting the value of free markets, Palin signaled her disapproval if it was a case of “political intrusion using a stick or carrot to bribe or force one individual business to do what politicians insist.”

    “When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent,” she asserted"
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    This is a surprise. Is Palin having a rare lucid moment or are there other forces at play? Considering Trump might be considering her for a position in his administration cartel, this is indeed odd behavior for a potential candidate.
     
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    Of course it is, but republicans are cool with it now. I'm sure carrier has no competitors.

    No csn she go back to rambling nonsense so I don't have to agree with her anymore.
     
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    I'm siding against Trump on this actually. I'm all for reducing the tax and regulatory burden on US business, but not on a case by case basis.

    By giving tax relief to one company, and not doing the same for their competitors could be defined as "crony capitalism"

    I'm glad for the 1,100 people who don't have to look for other jobs, but I hope this doesn't become a regular occurrence.

    I have no problem calling the republicans out if/when needed.
     
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    Sarah is correct, and some of us are not cool with it.

    But, Sarah was part of this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) when she backed the Nationalist / Populist over the real Conservative in the field. (Cruz / Paul / Carson)
     
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    If it's true that tax breaks were promised then it fails Psychology 101. It reinforces bad behaviour.
     
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    Exactly. If Trump told Carrier the changes he's going to implement for ALL companies (cut corporate tax, impose tariffs, punish those that move jobs out of our country, etc), it's not crony capitalism, which was Sarah's point. She didn't call Trump a crony capitalist. Solyndra was crony capitalism, she doesn't want to see those types of idiotic deals in the Trump administration.
     
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    She's right. It is crony capitalism, and America needs less of it, not more of it.
     
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    Well that's fine, but as far as I have heard so far, it's some sort of state tax incentives, the same type that governors all over the country do to attract business to their state. I'm not sure I would call that crony capitalism. But in any case, remember Trump isn't even President yet. He has no real power. I think reopening NAFTA will give him a stick to go with the carrot of tax incentives.
     
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    Yes, by definition, this deal does sound like crony capitalism but what surprises me is that such criticism came from Palin. It was good however for the employees at Carrier and showed the world how inept, if not complicit, Obama was in allowing companies to leave American shores.
     
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    Can't say I'm all for Crony Capitalism either. But honestly, the Presidency has very little power. It's up to Congress to fix some of these overlying issues, and unfortunately Congress has just enough Democrats to at least be annoying when it comes to that.
     
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    Bingo!

    Cheers
     
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    Palin is funded and rich from globalism and unfair trade by even richer people, she may not be aware that President Trump is working for her interests with his ruse.
     
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    President Trump is duping the poor nationalists by appearing to end unfair trade, in reality he is making the real conservatives and liberals richer, since NAFTA has no possibility of going away with a congress bought and paid for by the rich.
     
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    Obama has done the very same thing and I don't see any of you left people having a problem with him doing it. Jobs were saved. It's a good thing. I hope Trump saves many more. Sarah Palin has a right to say what she wants and if the article is true then it does not matter. Trump saved jobs. That is what matters to me. Besides the money these people will still have to pay for staying will make up for the tax breaks.

    The left is in shambles and they are trying to do everything they can to make Trump look bad and they wonder why they lost? People voted for Trump in hopes of making America great again. The Democrats gave people no good reason to vote for them other then their repeated attacks on Trumps character and it failed. The Democratic party and the left has failed because all they do is throw temper tantrums and try to attack anyone that get's in their way. So many people are tired of this stuff and I hope more people leave the party as they get tired of this constant rambling from the left.
     
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    Trump is a buffoon, and now he's being humiliated by that idiot Sarah Palin. I hope the future blowhard-in-chief keeps his antics to petty side deals with businesses, at least this stuff won't get us into an international conflict.

    America is about to become the biggest joke.
     
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    No it's not. You just want everyone to believe it is. You people are very good at trying to manipulate people into thinking something is bad for our country if you don't agree with it. Trump saved jobs. Obama did the same thing. Democrats and Republicans both do this. It is nothing new. To start crying about only now when someone you don't like is president makes you and everyone else fake. I never saw nobody complain when Obama did it.

    You people need to understand Trump is our next president for 4 years. Attacking him with this nonsense every chance you get will not help your party out at all. That is one of the reasons Hillary lost. Everyone is tired of all of the bashing the left likes to do.
     
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    Well states do it all the time but Obama and Bush took it to a whole new level with the bailouts because it was federal money and was more than just a tax break. Actually it is unconstitutional for the Fed Gov to tax 'ununiformaly'.
     
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    The only person being humiliated is yourself for not knowing what you are talking about.
     
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    Trump has stock in Ford and Carrier. That's why he got involved. And it is not "could be defined as". That's textbook crony capitalism. There is no mistaking.
     
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    After 8 years of attacking Obama over stupid stuff like where you think he was born you're gonna sit there and tell the left to stop attacking Trump before he is even President? hahahahah good one. Hahahahah. Be prepared for the attacks on Trumps dignity to never end. It's the least you deserve.
     
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    There is no such thing as Carrier stock.
     
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    A Canadian promising to attack Trump's dignity rather than his policies? Coming from a Canadian who's Prime minister praised the recently dead Castro? Hahahahah! Good one!
     
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    It says he has investments in carriers parent company sorry.
     
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    Well sure but also the left in the US. There will be no united country. Not after the past 8 years of republicans disrespecting Obama personally. And you probably won't get any respect from the Canadian and Mexican governments. We will try to be nice and cordial but we aren't going to let ourselves get intimidated by Twitter man. The first ever reality tv president.
     
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    OK, now you got that right. Now explain to me how Carrier in Indiana getting a $7 million tax break from the State of Indiana affects the the price of United Technologies stock which has over $10 billion dollars in annual profit? Perhaps you were making a stretch?
     

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