Sarah Silverman Thinks It’s Time To Start Legislating Male Masturbation

per·son
ˈpərs(&#601n/
noun
noun: person; plural noun: people; plural noun: persons; noun: first person; noun: second person; noun: third person

1.
a human being regarded as an individual.

At the moment of conception, 50% of the DNA from the father combines with 50% of the DNA from the mother creating an individual human being...
a person by definition.

Independent viability outside the womb, pain thresholds, self-awareness are not what makes an individual.

This is not a religious definition or "legalese," this is human biology.

The entire purpose of abortion is to snuff out the life of another individual human being at an early stage of development, so that this human does not develop fully.

Defining what is "fully developed" to warrant personhood, to warrant protection, is subjective.

Therefore objectively, all stages of development must be given consideration as an individual person and individuality begins at conception.

Abortion robs the right to exist from one individual to make another individual happy, thus undermines the objective principle of pursuing happiness without infringing upon another person's right to pursue happiness.

Again...person being an individual, and again...individuality begins at conception...objectively.

This argument does not need religious bolstering to support it.

In order to function as a society, objective principles are vital to the cohesion of pursuing individual happiness outside of infringing upon another individual's right to do the same. Killing them is an infringement of their right to also, pursue happiness.

 

The death penalty kills a life, wars kill many lives, self defense can kill a life... It's not as simple as that. When no one is dying from war, starvation or freezing to death then perhaps we're in a place to speak of the unborn.


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Actually personhood is already legally defined. If you cannot live without feeding on the nutrients of your mother, you are not yet an individual. Fetuses perform more like parasites. Don't get me wrong I love babies, but while in the womb they divert much of the woman's nutrients to themselves. That's why many women experience severe calcium deficiency, hair loss, blood issues, iron issues and much more. Women act like a host to a parasite. We know what they are and most women agree to be the host for 9 months, but some do not agree.


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You: """Abortion robs the right to exist from one individual to make another individual happy, thus undermines the objective principle of pursuing happiness without infringing upon another person's right to pursue happiness. """


Forcing a woman to stay pregnant and give birth robs her of the the right to exist unharmed to make another entity happy. ...thus undermines pursuing her happiness by another infringing on her right to pursue happiness.


A fully developed fetus is only aborted if the woman's health or life is in danger or the fetus has extreme health problems.

A fetus has protection, not rights, at the point of viability.

In order to function as a society we ALL must retain our right to self defense, no one should be able to harm us without our consent.



Now, IF you can prove that pregnancy does NO harm to women, do please provide proof.....no one EVER has.

 

Who and where I've never seen that here.

 

How do you come up with that leap in logic? So killing babies is now the moral equivilant of criminal executions, defending one's self in war or during a crime?

 

Its a symbiotic relationship not parasitic.

 

Men have should have a right to masturbate and, if not allowed to do so on their own, should be provided with a female sperm receptacle. Perhaps by legalizing government-paid prostitutes. Perhaps Bernie could add that to his platform.

 

In what way does the women depend on the fetus or even simply benefit? It's a one way relationship which most women happily enter.


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Life is life. Are you saying that the innocent civilians killed in war by the thousands are not individuals? This is far from a leap.


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Oh there are many studies showing the health benefits of pregnancy including new ones concerning T-cells repairing parts of the mothers body especially cardiac issues.

 

You said

Originally Posted by greatdanechick
The death penalty kills a life, wars kill many lives, self defense can kill a life... It's not as simple as that. When no one is dying from war, starvation or freezing to death then perhaps we're in a place to speak of the unborn.

Try again

How do you come up with that leap in logic? So killing babies is now the moral equivilant of criminal executions, defending one's self in war or during a crime?

 

My "leap" is that conservatives who are pro life are often also pro war. How does one reconcile that? Don't kill the unborn, but kill the born all day long. How is droning a city block to death not similar? The civilians haven't committed any crimes, yet are paying for someone else's crime with their lives. How can a person be in favor of bombing the Middle East while also pro life?


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And far more negative consequences for the woman. There are changes a woman experiences that never return to normal. Gag reflex, weight, hemorrhoids, compromised teeth, taste, hair loss, then of course the more serious side effects including as up to death. No one but the woman and her doctor should decide if she is signing up for those side effects. Certainly government shouldn't be deciding


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1 in 6 carries genital herpes, but that doesn't stop people from having unprotected sex. Lust over-rides intellect.

Look at gay men, HIV is 100% preventable, yet there is no appreciable reduction in new HIV rates among homosexuals.

if women truly believe that pregnancy harms them, how about avoiding the behavior that causes pregnancy.

That's too much to ask apparently, it's easier to have the sex, satiate the lust and then kill the fetus.

it's pathetic...truly pathetic.

People have so little self control, they have to kill to prevent consequences when a simpler solution is avoiding the behavior that causes the consequences...or at least use protection, i.e. condoms or birth control.

Seriously look at the Pro-Choice argument for what it is.

Pro-choice wants to keep the legal option of abortion open at all costs, despite the fact an unwanted pregnancy is in 99% of the cases, created by a chosen behavior.

The fetus didn't just show up uninvited, somebody opened the door to the sperm first, can we get an Amen on that.

Common sense dictates, hmmm, I don't want to pregnant, maybe I shouldn't allow sperm inside of me. Maybe I should use birth control or insist the man wears a condom or maybe I should avoid intercourse and just do other things to emotionally bond.

That's too to ask, nope, pro-choice is arguing, yes we have ZERO self-control, we're basically chimpanzees and we are not going to stop having sex and getting pregnant even though we don't want to. So we have to keep abortion legal.

That's the argument.

We're chimps and we know it, essentially.

 

Actually about 50% of all people carry Herpes Simplex II.

Most people's immune system deals with this Viral infection and they will never have an outbreak.

Thus most people never know they have it.

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Pure conjecture, but the fact remains a symbiotic not parasitic.

 

Sure. Birth control would be great, it's too bad the same pro life conservatives want to make it harder to get. Why is that?

And how would men feel if all of a sudden women were unavailable for sex because they could get pregnant? You can type that as many times as you want, it's never going to happen. Conservatives live in fantasy while pro choice people are trying to make the best of reality. You want to decrease abortions, quit shutting clinics down, teach comprehensive sex ed, quit defunding programs that provide IUDs to young women. Conservatives create more abortions by keeping people from the tools that prevent pregnancy.


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So if I get pregnant I'm going to benefit as much physically? That's ridiculous. You claim my T cells will benefit, meanwhile my entire body is affected. It's a one way relationship physically, not symbiotic.


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I was quite clear in what I said and a symbiotic relationship does not have to be equally mutually beneficial. And pregnancy is a very natural process females go through to procreate and replenish the population it is not a debilitating disease. That's not how nature designed it, wouldn't serve it's purpose very well if it killed off the female or physically debilitated her.

 

I hope she's ready to legislate female masturbation as well.
I hope she's ready for bureaucrats to get involved with her big black dildo.

 

I don't actually believe pregnancy is a debilitating disease. I'm just trying to make a point that humans have the unique ability and power to choose when, how, with whom or if we procreate. Choice is what separates us from other animals. Women have a choice to lease their bodies in pregnancy or not.


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Well ya'll are sure talking as if it is and yes you have a choice as to engaging in intercourse, a choice to make yourself infertile, a choice to make your uterus not susceptible to pregnancy. How does failing to make those choices then give license to kill another human you have created?

 

Keep your sperm out of my uterus, how about that? You act like women just get pregnant. If every woman said no more sex how do you think all the men here would feel? You make yourself infertile it's way cheaper and less invasive not to mention reversible. It's so incredibly sexist to blame women for getting pregnant. It didn't just magically happen to them.


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Silverman is just a comedian!!

She was in that Western Comedy that the guy who created Family Guy made as she plays a prostitute who is.."SAVING HERSELF"....by not having sex with the guy she is gong to marry!! LOL!!

At one point in that movie she and her husband to be are sitting down and she is telling him how excited she is as one of her..."CUSTOMERS"...has come into town and is requesting ANAL and as the Madam who run's the whore house tells her about this she look's at her husband to be and say's something like..."OH GOOD!! With that money I can buy you that new something something you want!!" LOL!!!

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Hey!!!

Put the Burka back on and get your ass in the kitchen!!!

LOL!!!

You know I am just kidding right? Maybe....well..no.

AA