Scared jews leaving europe

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Americans should certainly be 'scared' of Jewish organised crime, and Zionist Jew infiltration.

    If these people are their 'leaders', where precisely are they leading them to?

    Michael Chertoff is a good example of such a man, and of course, he is only one of literally hundreds of examples.

    He was once asked, when he was a US Attorney - "Being that you have a dual citizenship with the US and Israel, hypothetically, if the US and Israel ever went to war with each other, where would your allegiances be?"

    His answer was a quick "Israel of course".

    [video=youtube;t9cn8m1j-wo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cn8m1j-wo[/video]
     
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    I have no idea why HBendor and his domestic partner Borat, do not give up and stop their madness.
     
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    My domestic partner is my producer Azamat Bagatov, not HBendor
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    That said we can't stop what you Islamonazi terrorists have started. And we have not forgotten 9/11 and your other atrocities all over the world, in Europe, America, Asia, Africa, not just in Israel. Darfur, London, Madrid, Moscow, Beslan, India, Bali...Do you remember those? We do.
     
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    WOW - I've long ago foregotten abt this movie, enjoyed it so much I went back the few days later to watch it again - .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECITwTYSIsg&feature=related

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58xCWUibDGU&feature=related



    what was the remake like , I didnt see it.

    Not certain whether School curriculum vary between States or perhaps even counties.

    DUNNO .
     
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    Hmmm. Odds are that the world would have been a much calmer/quieter place , if Zionists Jews respected Palestinian non-Jews basic human rights. what you call "Islamonazi terrorist " is a direct reaction to ZioNazi terrorism . Cause and effect.

    9/11 would not have happened if it wasnt for US meddling in countries a d*mn big ocean away. If you dont trouble others , then others wont trouble you.


    "Do not do to others what would anger you if done to you by others."....


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    wasn't being sarcastic at all. I may have misterpreted you post. Were you saying that expropriation of jewish wealth hasn't been a trademark of euro regimes throughout history?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HAHAHAHAHA!

    I beleive you are the one that has posted holocaust denial videos on this thread. You have posted stories about Israeli crime syndicates. You hav posted all kinds if irrelevant (to the OP) jew hating garbage.


    Funny, but when you veer off onto these jew hating tangents, you actually derail the thread to make it about both the lies you spead AND the liars who spread them.

    At least that is my perspective. Freedom of speech allows you to say whatever you want, but that does not mean that you get a free pass to propagate outrageous heinous lies. You become the representative of that hatred and I claim my right of free speech to call you what you truly are. And I must say that you seem awfully sensitive for someone with so much hatred. Maybe your thin skin has contributed to your perverse perpsective.

    "Holier than thou" isn't a very good look for you.
     
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    really? Then why are you posting holocaust denial videos? Kinda off topic there.

    I find it amusing that you can't even recognize your own hypocracy.
     
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    I would say the period between 1932 and May of 1945 is illustrative.
     
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    No, I haven't studied all the evidence, I leave that to real historians to go through and then I read their books, where those mountains of evidence are detailed, cross referenced and then published in a cohesive retelling of the events of the time period in question. You know like every other student on the planet studies and learns.

    Far be it from me to point out that the incredibly weak holocaust denial/revisionist versions of events are based on distortions, minor inconsistencies, bad forensics, and a willingness to discount hundreds of thousands of hours of testimony.


    Yes, there are any number of interpretations of hisorical events that reflect the author's level of scholarship, their rigour, their access to evidence and their own biases. That is why critical thinking is absolutely necessary in post secondary and post graduate education.


    I reject any conclusion David Cole started with. I am fully aware of the soviet documents in which they overstated the number of non-jews killed at auschwitz - you know russian prisoners of war and such. there is absolutely NO soviet evidence that contradicts the the principle events of the holocaust.

    Tell me what other respects the soviet record varies from western accounts?


    what conditions do you not believe in? what aspects of the murdering do you no believe in?

    I find nothing wrong in being skeptical. What I find terribly wrong is maintain the fiction of skepticism when confronted with definitive evidence. Reliance on the scumbags that inhabit it the world of holocaust denial and their lack of scholarship cannot be described as skepticism, it can only be described as assinine bigotry.
     
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    May , whichever Gawd - God or gods , americans believe in , SAVE THEM.


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    Now this has lots to do with scared jews.


    Now its not that I don't beleive your or anything (because as youknow I dont) but would you happen to have an actual link to Chertoff saying this? You know something more concrete than some clown on a forum somewhere?

    Of course Chertoff is no longer in a position of power. Are you familiar with the process of congressional confirmation hearings?
     
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    same coin different side.
     
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    Real Historians ? LOL - excuse me , you keep using, imo - meaningless words like "real " records etc and "True student of history " - your read a book - see a name + a picture , and believe everything the author says (without checking or further thought ) + think its = "real " ?

    So, what do you think when at a later date someone reads another book - which contradicts what you've read from your "real historian " ?

    B) - All I do know that all students on this planet , are'nt taught exactly the same account of what happened the death camps , there are different emphases/omissions + slants etc.



    Jonsa , excuse me, but I'm really effing tired of the term "holocaust denier/denial " - I've really not ever come across anyone who seriously denied that millions perished in WW2 death camps. whether it was one - six .seven or half million, IT HAPPENED - where's the denial ?

    So there are some "revistionist " - so what ?

    If a man can live happily married to a revisionist . why cant we put up with the occassional revisionist historian ? Every woman is a revisionist, if you dont believe me, then go ask any married man.

    Jokes aside, IMO - revision is good + healthy, essential to expose faleshoods even the most sacred cows . .




    Overstated ? can you produce evidence that soviets overstated the deaths of non-Jews . ?

    You're beginning to sound like the people who say 6 million was an "overstatement. But what do I know abt such high numbers ? too late for a recount. WOT ?


    A) I've not yet seen any "definitive evidence" from you

    B) Scumbags ? Holocaust denial (again) Lack of scholarship ??? "assinine bigotry " ?

    Means sweer f-all to me , doesnt help whatever you're trying to convey , but I hope you feel better after that little rant


    Now, how about telling me something informative. in your next post ?

    tata.


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    Well, to look how it may play out, we first have to look to the past.

    What happened when the Jewish bolsheviks and communists, unleased their wrath on much of Europe?

    How did that pan out?

    How did it play out for the British, when terrorist Jews felt they were not getting it all their own way? How has it panned our for the natives of the ME, since Jews moved there?

    Has anyone ever taken the 30pieces of silver, or ever done a deal with Zionist Jews, or Communist Jews, and it has worked in their favour?

    Or has it generally been something they would regret..?

    As to the general theme about 'scared Jews in Europe', what is more of a concern, is the sheer scale of Jewish organised criminals, that use israel as a place they can hide in, out of reach from justice, while they move around the US and Europe, engaged in just about every kind of sick and depraved 'trade' you can think of.

    Including flooding the US with drugs to damage the young minds of Americans.

    Yes indeed, let there be no error, as much as one, because of Holywood, may associate OC with 'Italians', Jewish OC makes them look like a Sunday picnic.

    - Israel; A Promised Land For Organised Crime, is a real eye opener.

    It was from a Wikileaks cable, there was some 3500 cables it total, and some 2800 related to israel.

    Only around 2% of those that relate to Israel have ever been released, and that was one of them.

    Let's also not forget in a hurry the Jews that forged the passports of innocent Europeans, before committing acts of state sanctioned murder.

    Would be a different story if it were the other way around, right?

    Then we would never hear the end of it, and no doubt Spielberg would make a film The Passport.

    Assange himself said, btw, and he was actually quite a supporter of israel, that the only reason those other 98% of cables relating to israel were not published....is that the media did not want to.

    And as far as the US goes, he says that more were not published there due ... 'to the sensitivities of the Jewish community'.. (ponder that for a few seconds).

    Lots of other cables, relating to many countries, France, the US etc, were released, but god, do not dare offend 'Jewish sensititvities'.

    No matter how (*)(*)(*)(*)ing or in the public interest they may be, nope, 'Jew sensitivity' is uppermost in the mind of the media.
     
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    Why?
    Lizarddust asked you a valid question. Did you check the Wiki-Talk section on the topic? Did you contribute to refuting the entry? Nope!! Wakey wakey. Confucius say him what no lay eggs is like woman in stunt plane; suffers from crack up.
     
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    Its sad and yet telling, that you could re-read the whole thread, and almost predicatably, all the profanity, even yes, threats to potentially murder, have come from the usual suspects.

    How dare we form the view that Jews are extremely obnoxious, based on Jews being continually obnoxious.

    How can we possibly even think that Jews behave like violent aggressors, based on them being violent aggressors.

    No non Jew here, to the best of my knowledge, has even said something along the lines of 'Well, if Jews don't agree with us, let's smash their skulls'.

    While, in the same sentence, claiming that they 'fight fascism'.

    No non Jew here has ever wanted any Jew to go to jail, for merely writing a book or speaking.

    That's been Jews that want and gloat over such things.

    And a few crypto Jews and crypto Zionists.

    It's not been non Jews that have continually tried to drag this (fake) premise in the OP all over the place, from urinating on your noodles, to whole chunks about you and me!!!

    Anyone fair can see that we are trying to be polite and reasonable, and this is how we are repaid?

    Fine.

    Let them go on with their slandering, profanity, and threats.

    Rise above it, and be the better person.

    Ironically, any time one of them behaves how they do, it merely confirms what we knew.

    Lol - I am not much a fan of Anne Coulter (but I am sure you would be into her, after a few pints of that WARM beer you drink down there), but maybe she had something here.. ;)

    [video=youtube;2wnPHFSdrME]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wnPHFSdrME[/video]

    Btw though - This women, how the fark does someone like THAT make headway???

    Actually, doesn't matter, I think I know.

    :)
     
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    Have we asked WHY there is a rise in so-called "anti-Semitism" in Europe?
    Here is a post by a lady whose views I respect:
    This is the “The Jews killed our Lord Jesus” response. I am sure that it has been very valid in history, but does in explain the OP in very recent times? Surely French Muslims are not offering this reasoning? I think that Jack offered a perfectly valid riposte in post # 42.

    If fact, I believe that the issue has been answered way back in this thread by Skeptic-F:
    If you donÂ’t believe Skeptic-F, then you need to check out this recent survey: http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/adl_anti-semitism_presentation_february_2012.pdf In particular scroll to 6A and B:
    Approximately 1/3rd of Europeans polled “YES”, which is unfortunate, but understandable. Of those who polled “Yes”, the next the Next question was:
    Over 50% IN ALL COUNTRIES answered “YES”.

    I think that Jews and particularly Zionists need to chew on that instead of automatically reaching for the “Anti-Semitic card” with such knee-jerk regularity.
     
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    They won't though.

    That's like saying, 'maybe Jews need to stop buiding settlements, and filling them up with Jewish racists who are far more fascistic and violent than anyone on here'.

    They don't see it that way.

    To them, there is only one POV - the Jewish POV.

    In any debate between a Jew and a non Jew, automatically, the Jew can claim the other to be anti semite, no matter how foul their behaviour, no matter how much they are attacking that gentile, the Jew begins from a postiion of thinking he is right, because he believes he is 'CHOSEN'.

    In any war that involves Jews and ANY other opponent, the Jews are always portrayed as being the innocents, while the opponents are always the aggressor.

    I wonder how often Jews, down the years, have managed to play that trick, until their demonisation of a given person, finally sticks, and becomes part of general folklore.

    Often, it wouild seem, going by how they are today.

    There is no doubt that Jews lie excessively.

    All people tell white lies, some may even tell a few whoppers, yet there is no single group of people that lie with the fluency of the Jew, esp the Zionist Jew.

    They must be raised that way, there is no way it can be a coincidence, there must be either something in the way they are raised, whether that is Talmudic based or whatever, I have no idea, but there are no group of people, and I say this without fear of contradiciton, that lie so often, to so many, and about so much, as the Jew, esp if that Jew is a Zionist.

    How one can gloat and feel good about being a pathological liar, is beyond most reasonable people.

    Now, if Jews were merely limiting their lies, distortions and intrigues to each other, that would be fine.

    It's the fact that they have made lying a global business, that bothers any right minded person.

    And they have done that, through the media in the US, and beyond,for at least one generation now.

    They have, on purpose, bought up al the independent media, formed a tiny niumber of media corps, and used that to cynically lie, deceive, misinform, and mislead the non Jewish public, for at least that one generation.

    They have gone further than too, subverting Gov's, and tricking them into policy that has cost massive loss of life.

    This is something else worth thinking v seriously about...


    Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom?



    Part One;



    Someone wrote and asked me, "Why are there Israeli- but not Mexican-American Dual Nationals?"

    Well, here's my take on this. I'd also like your views and opinions.

    Before I begin I'd like to day something important. There is a new law -- the so-called "Hate Speech" law, that just passed the House and is expected to pass the Senate and become law very soon. It was originally designed to guard against discrimination of oppressed minorities but was soon recognized as a way for Israel to forever end any criticism of the state of Israel and Zionism. When it is law, this page, and many like it will be deleted from the internet as yet another mile marker of the infringement of truth and free speech by certain dual-nationals at the expense of true and patriotic Americans. Enough said.

    Unless we are Native American Indians, all Americans have their origins in some other country. Both of my parents were from England. They were proud to be "British" but they were most proud of achieving their American citizenship. Sure, we had pictures of the Queen and nick-nacks with the Union Jack on them. My mother even celebrated the traditional 4 o'clock tea time and was good at making Yorkshire Pudding. In the late 60's my older brother served in the US Army and did his tour in Viet Nam. When it came down to "allegiance," we were all patriotic Americans. Period.

    The word "allegiance" means that we promise loyalty. It also carries with it the expectation that this loyalty will be exclusive and unrestrained. In the case of a declared war or real threat or conflict, for example, our allegiance to America should preclude any other interest, be it another country or political ideology.

    When they took their oath to become American citizens, my parents had to pledge their "allegiance" exclusively to America and renounce their allegiance to "any and all foreign governments." That included Great Britain, one of our strongest allies.

    Before Viewzone asked me to research the meaning of "dual citizenship," I had never heard of the term. How could someone be a citizen of two countries at the same time? But I was just ignorant. Dual nationalities and citizenships are quite common.

    From my internet research, I learned that in 1997, a French Canadian with a U.S. passport ran for mayor of Plattsburgh, N.Y. He argued that the incumbent spoke French too poorly to be running a city so close to Quebec. He lost. Also in 1997, a retired top American official for the U.S. EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) ran for president of Lithuania. He was inaugurated in February to a burst of fireworks!

    In 1996, Dominicans from New York not only could vote in the Dominican Republic's presidential elections for the first time, they could vote for a fellow New Yorker. Multiple nationalities have become so commonplace that some analysts fear the trend is undermining the notion of nationhood, particularly in the place with the most diverse citizenry on Earth: the United States.

    Debate over the issue intensified in the late 1990s, when Mexico joined the growing list of poor nations that say it's OK for their nationals to be citizens of the countries to which they have migrated. Under the law that took effect in 1998 Mexicans abroad -- most of them in the United States -- will be able to retain Mexican citizenship even if they seek U.S. citizenship. And naturalized Americans of Mexican descent will be able to reclaim their original citizenship. The Mexican government stopped short, for now, of giving expatriates the right to vote.

    Security Issues

    Since citizenship carries with it a responsibility to be exclusively loyal to one country, the whole concept of dual citizenship and nationality raises questions about which of the dual citizenships have priority. This is extremely important when the two countries have opposing interests. It can be a deadly problem when a dual citizen is in a high position within our American government.

    Can one imagine a Japanese citizen serving in the Pentagon during WWII? Or how about a citizen of the Soviet Union holding a cabinet position in the White House during the Cold War?

    Today's conflicts are centered in the Middle East. America needs to balance foreign policies towards oil producing Arab nations with our goal being peace and stability in the region. This places a burdon on our government to be even-handed in our dealings with the Arab world and Israel. While the Iraq War was waged on lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction and revenge for 911, the real reason has emerged as a well designed global plan to improve the power and leverage of Israel. Added to this policy is yet another potential blow to American interests and security -- the impending War with Iran. This war will be waged for the security of Israel and will be paid for by the blood of American soldiers and the hard-earned money of American citizens whose quality of life is inversely tied to the cost of petrolium.

    Recently, in their much lauded paper, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, Harvard professor, Stephen Walt, and University of Chicago professor, John Mearsheimer, focused attention on the strong Israeli lobby which has a powerful influence over American foreign policies (see BBC article). They detail the influence that this lobby has exerted, forming a series of international policies which can be viewed as in direct opposition to the interests and security of the American people. These acts and policies are more often than not carried out by US government appointees who hold powerful positions and who are dual American-Israeli citizens. Since the policies they support are often exclusively beneficial to Israel, often to the detriment of America, it has been argued that their loyalties are misdirected.

    A few classic examples can be cited here

    *To follow*
     
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    Nah ! not my type even before she opened her mouth.

    I Dont touch WARM beer either . For me , nothing less than the Lord's good grape from any corner of the earth ,(glory to Lord Dionysus ) or the occasional Water of Life - Malt / Blended , (I cant tell the difference-) Hic.!

    Only - in AmeRika !

    Sad fact is, she's not the only one. (wink)


    cheers.

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    Part 2..

    Jonathan Jay Pollard
    was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation Pollard said he felt compelled to put the "interests of my state" ahead of his own. Although as a U.S. Navy counter-intelligence specialist he had a top-secret security clearance, by "my state" he meant the state of Israel.

    Literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. passports admit they feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system. Three examples come to mind:

    One is Rabbi Meir Kahane, who founded the militant Jewish Defense League in the U.S. in the 1960s, then emigrated to Israel where, eventually, he was elected to the Knesset. Until he was shot and killed at one of his U.S. fund-raising rallies in 1990, the Brooklyn-born rabbi shuttled between Tel Aviv and New York, where he recruited militant American Jews for his activities in Israel against Palestinians. He claimed to be a "dual citizen" of America and Israel.

    Another Jewish American, James Mahon from Alexandria, Virginia, reportedly was on a secret mission to kill PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat when he was shot in 1980 by an unknown assailant. When he was shot, Mahon held an American M-16 in his hand and a U.S. passport in his pocket.

    Then there was Alan Harry Goodman, an American Jew who left his home in Baltimore, Maryland, flew to Israel and served in the Israeli army. Then, on April 11, 1982, armed with an Uzi submachine gun, he walked, alone, to Al-Aqsa, Jerusalem's most holy Islamic shrine, where he opened fire, killing two Palestinians and wounding others. Both the U.S. and Israeli governments played down the incident, as did the media.

    Most recently, US Navy Petty Officer, Ariel J. Weinmann, while serving at or near Bahrain, Mexico, and Austria, "with intent or reason to believe it would be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation (Israel), [attempted] to communicate, deliver or transmit classified CONFIDENTIAL and SECRET information relating to the national defense, to a representative, officer, agent or employee of a foreign government." Weinmann was apprehended on March 26 after being listed as "a deserter by his command," according to the US Navy. The information he gathered was supplied to Israel.

    Ben-Ami Kadish, a Connecticut-born U.S. dual citizen who worked in New Jersey was arrested and charged with giving top secret nuclear information and details about the US Patriot Missile to an Israeli agent -- the same agent involved with the Jay Pollard case. The espionage charges reportedly stem from acts committed in the 1980s. These activities, like the ones with convicted spy Pollard, were immediately denied by Israel (Pollard pleaded guilty in 1986). It is further reported that Israeli officials instructed Kadish to lie to US investigators. Kadish was scheduled to be arraigned on April 22, 2008 at U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

    In 2009 it was revealed that the NSA had secretly taped conversations of Congresswomen Jane Harman [pictured above on the right with Israeli Knesset Speaker, Dalia Itzik] negotiating with two AIPAC spies accused of giving sensitive information about US military activities to the Israeli government. In the taped conversation she is being asked to dismiss their espionage charges in return for large politiacl contributions and (are you ready) a chairmanship of the US Intelligence Committee! One has to assume that they thought they could actually "arrange" for this to happen. This information was secretly revealed by the NSA to Nancy Polosi prior to the selection of the committee chairman and was a factor (let's hope, anyway) in Harmon's failure to obtain this highly sensitive position. After all was said and done, however, the case against the two Israeli lobbyists was dismissed -- against the insistance of the FBI. No satisfactory reason has been given for this.

    Unfortunately, such an act of treason remains unchallenged and Jane Harman remains at her congressional job and enjoys being the third wealthiest member of Congress. Only in America!

    The examples of Kahane, Mahonm, Goodman and Weinmann raise the question of when a U.S. citizen ceases to be, or should cease to be, a U.S. citizen. U.S. Law at one time clearly stated that an American citizen owed first allegiance to the United States. A U.S. citizen should not fight in a foreign army or hold high office in a foreign country without risking expatriation. What the heck happened?

    The 1940 Nationality Act

    Section 401 (e) of the 1940 Nationality Act provides that a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization, "shall lose his [U.S.] nationality by...voting in a political election in a foreign state."

    This law was tested many times. In 1958, for instance, an American citizen named Perez voted in a Mexican election. The case went to the Supreme Court, where the majority opinion held that Perez must lose his American nationality. The court said Congress could provide for expatriation as a reasonable way of preventing embarrassment to the United States in its foreign relations.

    But then something very odd happened.

    In 1967 an American Jew, Beys Afroyim received an exemption that set a precedent exclusively for American Jews. Afroyim, born in Poland in 1895, emigrated to America in 1912, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1926. In 1950, aged 55, he emigrated to Israel and became an Israeli citizen. In 1951 Afroyim voted in an Israeli Knesset election and in five political elections that followed. So, by all standards he lost his American citizenship -- right? Wrong.

    After living in Israel for a decade, Afroyim wished to return to New York. In 1960, he asked the U.S. Consulate in Haifa for an American passport. The Department of State refused the application, invoking section 401 (e) of the Nationality Act -- the same ruling that had stripped the American citizen named Perez of his U.S. citizenship.

    Attorneys acting for Afroyim took his case to a Washington, DC District Court, which upheld the law. Then his attorneys appealed to the Court of Appeals. This court also upheld the law. The attorneys for Afroyim then moved the case on to the Supreme Court. Here, with Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Lyndon Johnson's former attorney and one of the most powerful Jewish Americans, casting the swing vote, the court voted five to four in favor of Afroyim. The court held that the U.S. government had no right to "rob" Afroyim of his American citizenship!

    The court, reversing its previous judgment as regards the Mexican American, ruled that Afroyim had not shown "intent" to lose citizenship by voting in Israeli elections. Huh?

    While Washington claims it has a "good neighbor" policy with Mexico, the U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes them become either U.S. or Mexican -- you can't be both. But the U.S., in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S. citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US government positions as well! No other country holds this special exception to our laws of citizenship.

    So, you might ask, are there any other dual Israel-American citizens who hold US government positions that could compromise American security? Yes. Consider the following list that I obtained on the web:



    *List to follow*​
     
  22. GodTom

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    Jonathan Jay Pollard is in Jail for a life sentence Jack.

    Should Jews not be able to work for the CIA? What is the point you're trying to get across Jack, with your above post?
     
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    Jack , I'm a bit tired, I'll read the rest of yr post tomorrow , I quickie comment . Zionist/Non-observent Jews have been trying to get away from that "Chosen " description.
    THey begin from a position believing and knowing who they're dealing with , who they can outsmart . They know Goyim - in general , are gullible + easily fooled.


    gotta go now


    Niiiiight .
     
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    Michael Mukasey
    Recently appointed as US Attorney General. Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001.

    Michael Chertoff
    Former Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, at the Justice Department; now head of Homeland Security.

    Richard Perle
    One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle came from one the above mentioned pro-Israel thinktanks, the AEI. Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the administration and now in the media.

    Paul Wolfowitz
    Former Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister lives in Israel. Wolfowitz came from the above mentioned Jewish thinktank, JINSA. Wolfowitz was the number two leader within the administration behind this Iraq war mongering. He later was appointed head of the World Bank but resigned under pressure from World Bank members over a scandal involving his misuse of power.

    Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    The former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst with expertise in Iranian policy issues who worked in the office of Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and reported directly to Feith's deputy, William Luti, was sentenced January 20, 2006, "to more than 12 years in prison for giving classified information to an Israeli diplomat" and members of the pro-Israel lobbying group American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

    Franklin will "remain free while the government continues with the wider case" and his "prison time could be sharply reduced in return for his help in prosecuting" former AIPAC members Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman, [who] are scheduled to go on trial in April [2006]. Franklin admitted that he met periodically with Rosen and Weissman between 2002 and 2004 and discussed classified information, including information about potential attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq. Rosen and Weissman would later share what they learned with reporters and Israeli officials." (source: sourcewatch.com).


    Douglas Feith

    Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith also came from the Jewish thinktank JINSA. Feith, like Perle and Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.

    Feith was investigated by the FBI under suspicion of leaking classified information to Israel, being that he was Larry Franklin's boss when Franklin leaked those documents to Rosen and Weissman of AIPAC. For that he was forced to leave the National Security Council. Feith was also investigated by the Senate Intelligence Committee for sexing up 'intelligence' that was used to justify invading Iraq.

    Edward Luttwak

    Member of the National Security Study Group of the Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an Israeli citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose main theme in many of his articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war against Iraq and Iran.
     
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    Henry Kissinger
    One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House). Kissinger likely had a part in the Watergate crimes, Southeast Asia mass murders (Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos), Installing Chilean mass murdering dictator Pinochet, Operation Condor's mass killings in South America, and more recently served as Serbia's Ex-Dictator Slobodan Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocated going to war against Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S. Unfortunately, President Bush nominated Kissinger as chairman of the September 11 investigating commission. It's like picking a bank robber to investigate a fraud scandal. He later declined this job under enormous protests.

    Dov Zakheim
    Dov Zakheim is an ordained rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim attended Jew's College in London and became an ordained Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in 1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish Yeshiva University. Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.

    Dov Zakheim is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and in 2000 a co-author of the Project for the New American Century's position paper, Rebuilding America's Defenses, advocating the necessity for a Pearl-Harbor-like incident to mobilize the country into war with its enemies, mostly Middle Eastern Muslim nations.

    He was appointed by Bush as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as mentioned, was buried under 9-11's rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim's watch. We can only guess where that cash went.

    Despite these suspicions, on May 6, 2004, Zakheim took a lucrative position at Booz Allen Hamilton, one of the most prestigious strategy consulting firms in the world. One of its clients then was Blessed Relief, a charity said to be a front for Osama bin Laden. Booz, Allen & Hamilton then also worked closely with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is the research arm of the Department of Defense.

    Judicial Inc's bio of Dov tells us Zakheim is a dual Israeli/American citizen and has been tracking the halls of US government for 25 years, casting defense policy and influence on Presidents Reagan, Clinton, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. Judicial Inc points out that most of Israel's armaments were gotten thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.

    Kenneth Adelman
    One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supported going to war against Iraq. Adelman frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often expresses extremist and often ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. Through his racism or ignorance, he actually called Arabs "anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he could have looked it up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by definition are Semites.

    I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby

    Vice President Dick Cheney's ex-Chief of Staff. As chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why Cheney is so gun-ho to invade Iran. Libby is longtime associate of Wolfowitz. Libby was also a lawyer for convicted felon and Israeli spy Marc Rich, whom Clinton pardoned, in his last days as president. Libby was recently found guilty of lying to Federal investigators in the Valerie Plame affair, in which Plame, a covert CIA agent, was exposed for political revenge by the Bush administration following her husband's revelations about the lies leading to the Iraq War.

    Robert Satloff
    U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

    Elliott Abrams

    National Security Council Advisor. He previously worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center. During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.

    Marc Grossman
    Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.

    Richard Haass
    Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National Security Council, and who consistently advocated going to war against Iraq. Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

    Robert Zoellick
    U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level position. He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush (Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq and occupying a portion of the country in order to set up a Vichy-style puppet government. He consistently advocates going to war against Iran.

    Ari Fleischer
    Ex- White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr) Administration. Prominent in the Jewish community, some reports state that he holds Israeli citizenship. Fleischer is closely connected to the extremist Jewish group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics, who follow the Qabala, and hold very extremist and insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer was the co-president of Chabad's Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young Leadership Award from the American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

    James Schlesinger
    One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supported going to war against Iraq. Schlesinger is also a commissioner of the Defense Department's National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.
     
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