Shootings - The view of Rep Mike Harris

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    Michael Harris - former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman.



    Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

    Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

    The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

    A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

    Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US “threw them under the bus,” particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli “signature attack,” one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?”

    Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime. Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.

    Today, Israeli news gave further credence to Harris’ analysis when they issued the following statements regarding the probable nomination of Hegel:

    “Chuck Hagel’s statements and actions regarding Israel have raised serious concerns for many Americans who care about Israel,” said the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) Executive Director, Matt Brooks. “The Jewish community and every American who supports a strong US-Israel relationship have cause for alarm if the president taps Hagel for such an important post.”

    “The appointment of Chuck Hagel would be a slap in the face for every American who is concerned about the safety of Israel,” he asserted

    Citing a 2006 interview with Hegel, the news continued, “The political reality is…that the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. I have always argued against some of the dumb things they do because I don’t think it’s in the interest of Israel. I just don’t think it’s smart for Israel.”

    Hagel also said he didn’t think he had ever signed one of the letters the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) regularly circulates to demonstrate support for Israel or tough stands against parties such as Iran.

    “I didn’t sign the letter because it was a stupid letter…I’m not an Israeli senator, I’m a United States senator.”

    During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”

    After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

    One three star general is quoted as saying, “Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up.”

    As days have passed, key issues involving the Sandy Hook terror attack have been cited as “debunking” the “lone gunman” cover story: From a viral email that is growing every hour with more reasons to doubt the official story: According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan - whom officials say is very cooperative - claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

    According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?

    The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with 223 (rifle) casings. However, Adam Lanza was found dead at the school with only handguns - a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. Then he could not have possibly been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did then?

    According to the official story, the killings was tightly confined to two classrooms. Then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?

    Joanne Didonato, the principal’s secretary, called in sick on Friday - something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. “Of all days,” she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.

    Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

    What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

    What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, “It wasn’t me.” Who was he and what was he doing there?

    What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?

    The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector, who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son access to both guns and ammo?

    A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, “Put your hands up,” followed by the reply, “Don’t shoot.” This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?

    Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?

    Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?

    Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?

    Why did a police officer specifically mention on radio that “they’re coming at me through this wood” followed by a fellow officer saying, “This is it”?

    One officer at the school said, “We’ve got one suspect down.” Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed) not dead.

    Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?

    Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it is for their own benefit?

    Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza’s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

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    This is only a small percentage of the irregularities noted in what now seems to be more of a cover-up than investigation.

    In truth, the public may well just be sick of hearing stories about “lone gunmen.” Of all possible horrors, this one, even more than the Benghazi killings, is loaded with political implication, not just “gun control,” but a clear attack on the security of every American family.

    The simplest thing would be to sit back and accept what we are told without examining who gains, who loses and “why now?”

    Is Harris right? Would Israel order the deaths of twenty tiny children to make a political point? Have they done this before?

    Is Harris right about that too?

    Moments ago, Harris phoned me. I asked him if, hours later, he was still willing to back up his statements.

    His answer was simple: “You murder children as part of ‘business as usual,’ you shouldn’t be surprised that when children are murdered, people look to you.”

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/


    Now follows ten pages of personal attacks, whining about the source, charachter attacks on Mr Harris, and on Hagel.

    ;)

    But for everyone else, hey, some pretty big revelations. Yesterday morning, a few members on here who I would not normally expect to say such things, they had me scratching my head in confusion, with the very same sort of claims that Mr Harris now seems to be making today. Yesterday morning, I did not expect anyone outwith a few people on this forum to believe there a connection, but apparently, I was wrong, and they have and do.
     
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    Michael Deane "Mike" Harris (born January 23, 1945) was the 22nd Premier of Ontario from June 26, 1995 to April 15, 2002. He is most noted for the "Common Sense Revolution", his Progressive Conservative government's program of deficit reduction in combination with lower taxes and cuts to government programs.

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    Charles Timothy "Chuck" Hagel (born October 4, 1946)[2] is a former United States Senator from Nebraska. A member of the Republican Party, Hagel was first elected to the Senate in 1996. He was reelected in 2002 and then retired in 2008. He is currently a professor at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. He has also served as chairman of the Atlantic Council and co-chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board since 2009.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel
     
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    You know this is absolute BS and from PressTv..

    Ryan Lanza is not in custody and Adam wasn't wearing a bulletproof vest.
     
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    Was he in custody? What of his roomates? How do you know Adam wasn't?

    What of the rest of the points, and what of Mike Harris, and what of Jews not wanting Mr Hagel?
     
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    The article is completely full of lies.

    The ME said that of the seven children he personally autopsied all had been shot mutliple times with the long gun.

    You should throw out this article unless you are keen to muddy the water with more disinformation.
     
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    And let me guess, Margot on the internet has the full truth, right?
     
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    Ryan wasn't in custody.. He was in New Jersey.. What roommates?
     
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    Margot, you seem to overlook that in the US media itself, there were glaring 'errors' and 'contradictions', even over who the shooter was meant to be, among other things. You are not on the scene love, not part of the investigation team, nor privy to every machincation that goes on. And neither am I. Whch is why, on this matter, you could say I am 'agnostic' today. A few people were alluding to it yesterday, and I was confused what they meant, but people that usually do not say such things, felt that Zionists within the US body politic were, at minimum, desiring to v much restrict the second amendment. It is true, of course, that legislators like Feinstien et all, are Jews, and could easily be described as Zionist ashkenazi Jews, albeit I did say to them, yesterday morning, that this was not evidence enough, for me, at that stage.

    The general feeling among them was that they were taking advantage of this latest event, in order to push through new gun legislation. Like I say, when someone makes a claim, I am prepared to listen to what merits they may feel it has, and they would naturally need to show why/what benefit there would be, in Zionist legislators, wishing to revamp and partially disarm Americans. If they can demonstrate that, then they may, I repeat may, have a point.

    Also, do not forget, and you know this is true, that when we are talking about 'Israel', we are talking about those who 'recruit' people to work for them, by way of threatening to rape family members, among other things, right? Who knows how many people they have intimidated that way. Moreover, these are the same people who mandate the use of sodomy, rape, and torture, not to mention the small matter of their citizenship being marinated in national service, which, in practice, means, that unlike say most people in my city, a good % in Israel will have shot dead a kid, or maimed one. Then seen it as a Mitvah.

    It is an ugly truth, but that is the reality, behind the mask, Margot.

    These are a people of vengence, rage, intolerance, and they demand 100% obdience from Americans. Who knows how many non Jewish American politicians that they have bribed, bought off, blackmailed, or threatened? Who knows how many media people.

    They are good at pretending to be civilised, I will give you that, but there is NOTHING civil about them, behind the facade.

    Like I say, I am not taking a fixed positon here, but, in the end, I believe that Mr Harris has a right to share his thoughts.
     
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    The media makes corrections as the facts become known.. They don't create idiotic conspiracy theories out of NOTHING...
     
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    Obama to support ban on assault weapon sales.....


    US President Barack Obama supports a proposal from Senator Diane Feinstein (D-California) that would reinstate a ban on the sale of assault weapons in the United States.

    Sen. Feinstein announced on NBC’s “Meet the Press” over the weekend that she helped craft new legislation that was aimed at once again eliminating high-powered firearms from gun stores in the States. On Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Pres. Obama will support the act.

    "He is actively supportive of, for example, Sen. Feinstein’s stated intent to revive a piece of legislation that would reinstate the assault weapons ban," Carney told reporters during his daily briefing from the White House on Tuesday, according to POLITICO.

    Feinstein, who currently chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, championed an earlier ban passed by Congress in 1994, but that bill expired only a decade later. On Sunday, the senator said new legislation in the works would perfect that earlier bill.

    "It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she told NBC. "There will be a bill."

    “We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said.

    On Tuesday, Carney said the president "supports and would support legislation that addresses the problem of the so-called gun show loophole, and there are other elements of gun legislation that he could support … high capacity ammunition clips, for example. That is certainly something he would be interested in looking at.”

    Discussions of gun laws have reemerged in recent days following the wake of a mass murder at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut last week. It was there that 20-year-old Adam Lanza used an arsenal of legally obtained firearms to shoot and kill 26 people, including 20 young children.

    Also on Tuesday, sources in Washington report that Sen. Feinstein is allegedly slated to step down from her role on the Senate Intelligence Committee and will transfer for a role within the Judiciary Committee.

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-support-ban-assault-326/
     
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    Obama to support ban on assault weapon sales.....


    US President Barack Obama supports a proposal from Senator Diane Feinstein (D-California) that would reinstate a ban on the sale of assault weapons in the United States.

    Sen. Feinstein announced on NBC’s “Meet the Press” over the weekend that she helped craft new legislation that was aimed at once again eliminating high-powered firearms from gun stores in the States. On Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Pres. Obama will support the act.

    "He is actively supportive of, for example, Sen. Feinstein’s stated intent to revive a piece of legislation that would reinstate the assault weapons ban," Carney told reporters during his daily briefing from the White House on Tuesday, according to POLITICO.

    Feinstein, who currently chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, championed an earlier ban passed by Congress in 1994, but that bill expired only a decade later. On Sunday, the senator said new legislation in the works would perfect that earlier bill.

    "It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she told NBC. "There will be a bill."

    “We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said.

    On Tuesday, Carney said the president "supports and would support legislation that addresses the problem of the so-called gun show loophole, and there are other elements of gun legislation that he could support … high capacity ammunition clips, for example. That is certainly something he would be interested in looking at.”

    Discussions of gun laws have reemerged in recent days following the wake of a mass murder at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut last week. It was there that 20-year-old Adam Lanza used an arsenal of legally obtained firearms to shoot and kill 26 people, including 20 young children.

    Also on Tuesday, sources in Washington report that Sen. Feinstein is allegedly slated to step down from her role on the Senate Intelligence Committee and will transfer for a role within the Judiciary Committee.

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-support-ban-assault-326/
     
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    Lol..don't be naive, of course they do.

    Remind me where the underground worlds are, that Rumsfeld and Cheney assured the world were real...on the media.

    And the WMD....as told to you...by the media.
     
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    Alan Dershowitz

    2001: In a speech to a Jewish audience at the Jewish Community Center of Creve Coeur, Harvard Jew Alan Dershowitz said:

    — “I support abolishing self-defense. No one has the right to take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. Everyone who is arming themselves for self-defense are wrong.

    “I’m in favor of broad controls on guns. If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.” —


    http://www.hypocritae.com/National/a...witz-supports/


    Diane Feinstein

    1993:The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 comes from San Francisco Jewish Congresswoman Diane Feinstein. The Bill bans the possession of semiautomatic rifles described as “assault weapons.” [Note: true assault weapons are fully automatic, not semiautomatic].


    1994: The Brady Bill which requires long waiting periods to buy handguns also comes from the Jewish Senator Metzenbaum.


    1993:Senate Bill S.653 comes from Cleveland Senator Howard Metzenbaum. The Bill bans specific semiautomatic rifles.

    Emanuel Celler

    1968:The Gun Control Act of 1968 comes from NY Congressman Emanuel Celler. America’s biggest & most far-reaching Gun Control Law
     
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    While this could very well be true, I highly doubt it. We will see as time goes on though.
     
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    Probably not.

    Have to admit, this Lone Wolf Gone Mad, is starting to feel like a theme...
     
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    And by then , it wont matter a dot , until the next massacre. WOT ?



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    What.... Ok... I've seen people blame Israel for a lot of things, but this one really takes the cake.

    Jack, you're starting to sound like one of those people that blames Muslims for everything.
     
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    And gullible suckers are swallowing it hook, line and sinker. Not surprisingly, Press TV is the only source of this ridiculous story...

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    LOLOLOL... :love:
     
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    Well, don't forget too, often the US media like to leave out little details, such as, for example, how much the alleged killers in the Columbine massacre seemed to have a simmering hatred for whites and Christians..

    First, it seems Dylan Klebold’s mother – a woman named Susan Yassenoff – religiously attended her local synagogue and was schooled in the Temple (schul). She also attended Temple Israel, while her father, Leo Yassenoff, was also an influential member of the Jewish community and actively a part of Temple Israel.

    Similarly, Klebold’s accomplice – Eric Harris – also had strong Jewish ties. In Salon magazine, Harris is quoted as telling a teacher: “My mother is Jewish!” he announced proudly to the entire group. Then he raised a fist into the air, “Dreydle power!” Harris also dated a Jewish girl and operated a pro-Jewish website where he railed against neo-Nazis, racists, and those who persecuted Jews. Yet similar to the Alabama church burnings, this information relating to their strong Jewish ties was never reported in the mainstream media.

    But wait, the links get even more pronounced. In a secret notebook discovered after the Columbine massacre, Eric Harris wrote about a potential plan where he’d flee to Israel because of their lenient anti-extradition policies.

    Furthermore, it seems the notorious Trenchcoat Mafia (whom Klebold and Harris belonged) had quite a number of Jewish members, and was very anti-Christian in a vile, Talmudic sort of way. In fact, in the Klebold-Harris diaries, homemade videos, and on Internet postings, these teens were exceptionally abusive toward anything related to Christianity. And, if one remembers correctly, this same type of attitude was shared by the three Jewish Alabama church arsonists, who also despised Christians.

    In addition, anyone that researches the Columbine shootings will soon discover that there were undoubtedly more individuals involved than just Klebold and Harris. We know this with complete certainty because over 100 bombs and/or explosives were discovered inside Columbine high school, including: 48 carbon dioxide bombs, 27 pipe bombs, and 11 1 ½ gallon propane containers, as well as 40-plus gallons of flammable liquid and two duffel bags containing 20-pound liquefied petroleum gas tanks.” In addition, “Each of their cars contained two 20-pound propane tanks, another 20 gallons of gasoline, pipe bombs [grenades], clocks, and other combustible liquids.” (Source: Judicial-biz)

    Ask yourself: could two high-school kids trudge this much firepower and pyrotechnics into a school unnoticed, not to mention their additional firearms? They had such a huge arsenal of explosives that a SWAT team was afraid to enter the building! Plus, over 50 different eyewitnesses claimed to have seen additional participants in this massacre other than just Klebold and Harris.


    http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/columbine.html
     
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    Margot, as I have said, and as Serf seems to be handily blind to here, I stated that I take an inconclusive view of this, so far.

    See? Inconclusive, as in, I am open to hear why those that do believe it, believe it, I am happy to listen to what Mr Harris has to say.

    You know as well as I do, and I note you do not deny it, that Israel use sodomy, the threat of rape, and kill kids, all of the time, so please, tell me this, if they did wish to send out a message, are you truly telling me that you would entirely discount them from being bad and evil enough, to arrange for such a thing, with some American kids? That suddenly, the same men who mandate sodomy and child torture elsewhere, would what...NOT consider such a thing?

    Come on Margot, next you will be trying to have us believe that women are happy in S Arabia!!:party:
     
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    Hey, you don't honestly expect the Kosher media to give Mr Harris a platform, do you?

    Lol.

    :wierdface:
     
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    Actually they are quite hilarious, here is a few of them :)

    I have a sinus and ear infection....bet I got it from a secret Israeli agent!

    The best way to maintain American support is by killing its children. Yep. I admit it. It was us...Benjamin Netanyahu

    Don't tell anyone, but the Israelis were also behind the assasination of Abraham Lincoln. It's true. They invented a machine to travel back in time (you know those clever jews are good with machines) and then paid John Wilkes Boothe to shoot the president. Then they KILLED Boothe to shut him up. This is true. The reason why the Israelis did this crime was to punish Lincoln for not supporting Israel at the United Nations. The reason I know this is because many high placed secret governmental people told me. Also, the Israelis NEVER DENIED IT!!! You know when Israel does something they never admit it.

    I'm just surprised it took them so long to figure out that it was the Jews fault. I finally have the courage to admit that I've been affected by the Jews as well. Last week, I was carrying my groceries and the bottom of the bag broke and I lost a bottle of tomato sauce. I knew immediately that I was the target of Israeli sabotage.
     
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    [video=youtube;mPBaYumP9hM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPBaYumP9hM[/video]
     
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