Should I stand up to my liberal teacher?

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  1. KHARON

    KHARON New Member

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    It is, but it is a more defined art of theft and deception (everything can be explained in economical term, but not justified economically wise).

    A socialist would asseverate that. Socialism isnt about being economically efficient..it is about distribute of wealth.. <- or is it being completely, nonsensical and inaccurate too?
     
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    Completely nonsensical and inaccurate too. Socialist economists ABSOLUTELY believe they are being more efficient economically. Many modern economists who are on the socialist side of things are market socialists, so they have dealt with the most obvious inefficiency of old soviet style economics, and that was the planned economy. Now I am not a socialist, but socialists absolutely seek efficiency, and believe they are best capable of achieving it.

    You are simply regurgitating propaganda created by capitalists, to make people think their ownership of vast amounts of wealth is justified.


    Also, the economics of the mainstream left is hardly defined by socialists. It is defined by Keynesians. Go read this guys blog. He is a left-wing economist. He is also one of about a half dozen economists in the world to accurately predict the housing bubble and the crisis its collapse would create (He actually saw the housing bubble, he isn't just a doom and gloom monger like Peter Schiff, and others who "predicted" the collapse, but really just said something bad would happen. Which is a prediction a TV psychic could have made, no need for an economist). Even more impressively, he did it 5 years earlier than any of the other economists who predicted it as well. He predicted this in 2001, they didn't see it until 2005-2006.

    http://www.cepr.net/beat-the-press/

    The guy is great and his blog takes apart the many lies, inaccuracies, and misrepresentations of the Washington Post and NYT and other parts of the mainstream corporate media.
     
  3. KHARON

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    I studied business/economics for a few years and I can tell you that obamacare was a socialist move, that has led to an increase in redundant costs. His commitment to seniors who are outside the labor force, how do you economically justify that?
    Our socialist friend, also tried to maintain too many public jobs across the states..teachers/police officers/ firemen and also farmers whose wages experienced a drop.
    What value do those people bring.

    I think that you refer to market regulation and deregulation, when you refer to economist who is socialist market economist.

    Capitalist when is regulated in the right way, increases personal liberty,.. socialist erodes it like it erodes incomes
     
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    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Obamacare is antithetical to socialism. A public option is semi-socialist. A single payer system is pretty socialist. The mandate is a big handout to health care companies, especially insurance companies. Nothing more. How is demanding that citizens purchase insurance from capitalists considered socialism? Makes no sense.
     
  5. KHARON

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    Because they are being forced to accept certain regulations (which isnt liberal) and also the gov helps to fund the service.

    Do you really think that health care is capitalist? Do you think a socialist would allow a capitalist provision of healthcare?
     
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    Economically I'm a moderate but socially I'm a collective anarchist.

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    With what?
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    So I turned in an essay about why I believe what I believe in, and got an 85% on it. Not bad, I don't why yet but I will know shortly.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    We're talking ethical businessmen, not crooks who were in the right place at the right time.
     
  9. Angrytaxpayer

    Angrytaxpayer Banned

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    :roll:

    That's funny because before I graduated college, got my state license, and started practicing in my hospital I was a raving liberal. Voted Democratic for everything. Blindly. Then I saw how the real world worked, where my tax dollars were going and this forced me to start researching who I was voting for. From what I understand this is what happens to people once they move out of their parents home, get a real job and realize that your money isn't being well spent by others. aka government.
     
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    OTOH, if you took statistics, and paid attention, you'd understand why my statement is true.......
     
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    Not after looking at who was part of 'Operation Wall St.'
     
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    What two party system would that be? commiecrats=republicoms
     

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