Should pedophiles be put to death?

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Should pedophiles be put to death?

  1. yes!

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  2. no!

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  1. katmustang12

    katmustang12 New Member

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    i just don't think pedophiles can be saved. once you molest a child, i don't care about "oh, i changed because i spent a month in a seminar!" like 95% of my family are females (this is not a joke, you'll be lucky to see a boy in this family.) so you know that most of them probably delt with this situation. my sister was one of them, and she didn't get help until she was 17, but guess what? the cops said they couldn't do anything! this guy is currently fighting for custody of his kid, AND he's in the system, but cops can't do anything!? oh And it gets better! his older brother is a convicted rapist(out of jail, don't know why), and his other brother currently has my cousin taking care of his other kids while hes out with the baby momma! if that family aint' f**ked up i don't know what is!

    i know im not god, and shouldn't decide these types of decisions, but i just feel that the guys get off easily. and you could guess what my reaction was when i found out that there's a pedophile rights group:steamed:... for a bonus question, what would you do to all the pedophiles convicted? (real, not accused)
     
  2. simgiran

    simgiran New Member

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    Being a pedophile doesn't mean molesting children. Being a pedophile means being sexually and romantically attracted to children. Probably a big majority of pedophiles doesn't abuse children (but it's hard to say, because estimates of pedophilia prevalence are very inaccurate). Also a big part, probably majority of people who molest children aren't pedophiles (the numbers are pretty unclear, from 10 % to 90 %, however some studies use the definition, that allows to label a person as pedophile based just on engaging in sexual contact with children for long enough).

    If you in fact mean child molesters, no, I don't think they should be put to death. We don't regularly execute people for comparable severe crimes. The "child molestation" can have very different forms that can result in very different level of harm for the children. Also the offenders differ a lot.

    If you mean specifically pedophilic offenders, you can't change their sexual orientation, but you can reduce the risk they pose to children significantly. You need to realize there are no guides how to live with pedophilia, some of the offenders don't even realize that they are pedophiles. Also the important thing is that most of the pedophiles like children and don't want to hurt them. However, despite hearing everywhere that sexual activities with children hurt children they can think they won't hurt children by having sex with them - partially because the usual description of sexual abuse don't match what pedophiles typically do and also because they can find that things they hear about pedophiles doesn't describe them at all and that the claims about harmfulness of sexual contacts with children are similarly wrong. You can explain them how the sexual contacts with children can harm children, you can learn them how to avoid risky situations, how to manage problematic situations etc.

    If you are interested, you can check these links:
    http://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/ocs/prague/2012/blog/?story_id=910750
    https://www.dont-offend.org/
    http://mediacenter.dw.de/english/audio/item/970187/Living_with_pedophilia/
     
  3. Pennywise

    Pennywise Banned

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    The recidivism rate of child molesters is unrivaled in all other areas of violent crime. They are sik fuks and should be executed after the first offense.

    Anything less is unjust.
     
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    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    What if they have feelings but never offended? I have a relative molested as a child who has those desires and never offended and is in a support group and regular psychological care to not offend and was in this state for decades should he be killed.
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice to note you agree with the actions of Saddam Hussain.

    Well, somebody had to!
     
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    Nice to know you side with child molesters. How enlightened.
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I say that I did?

    But what is enlightening is your attitude to human life and the American propensity to dispose of it when it becomes an inconvenience.
     
  8. Riot

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    I think they should be forced to watch granny porn for the rest of their life.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    I say no, for this reason...

    Do you really think the threat of death will stop a child molester? What it will do is make a child molester more likely to kill the child afterwards since having the child alive only increases his chances of being caught and executed. If you are going to have the death penalty, it should be reserved only for murderers. This way, the child molester has more reason to keep the child alive.
     
  10. simgiran

    simgiran New Member

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    I am also worried that it might lead to intimidation or even murdering the child.

    To answer your first question: It certainly won't stop all of them. It won't stop the young pedophiles, who find they are attracted to the children, find, that they are "those monster" they see in media and who wants to die. I don't see how the threat of death can stop someone who wants to die. On the other hand if they were given some information, that they aren't those monsters from media, if they were explained what pedophilia is, why not to have sex with children and what to be careful about, there is a good chance that this treatment would prevent them from sexually abusing a child. If you can get them rid of those stupid prejudices and help them to value themselves again, they'll get something, they can lose. And if they realize they like children, they may start to care more about not to hurting children than about themselves getting some short time pleasure.
     
  11. katmustang12

    katmustang12 New Member

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    let me think... im not opposed to thinking on both sides, because i usually try to go on facts and research, but i never understood what causes these people to have these urges?
     

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