Should Trump go to Prison?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jun 11, 2022.

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Should Trump go to Prison

  1. Yes

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    42.7%
  2. No

    47 vote(s)
    57.3%
  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Fair enough. I had too many documents open and my search engine was locking up. I had to reboot. But I am still not seeing what you show. I will have to see if I can make sense of that.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    But that doesn't detract from the essential points. Trump shows only adoration for putin. He has been in bed with the enemy all along.

    And we all know that putin is a tyrannical despot - the only kind of foreign leader trump adores.

    Trump lovers laughed. But they stopped laughing.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a VERY large file, over a million rows. I just used 'grep' against the raw csv. I do not use Microsoft products, because they're more evil than Trump, so I can't tell you how to handle large data there. It's trivial in linux.
     
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    I'm on my old computer. I spilled 24 ounces of coffee on my new one.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that you know there was absolutely nothing unusual about the Ambassador meeting with the POTUS, you should probably do something about that non-sequitur in your signature. It's making you look silly. :)
     
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    The comparison fails on an important front.

    In this case both bank robbers have gotten caught but One bank robber is released and nothing happens depending on their last name
     
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    The produced evidence what is lacking was a will to actually indict
     
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    IMO it is more about the underlying and secret control exercised by large corporations. They influence govt decisions in quiet offices buried far from the public gaze and do not answer to the needs of the people who live there.
    It is like having another layer of govt you dont know about, cannot elect and have any control over. What you and read and see is only the light glinting off à very deep iceberg.
    So the politicians throw bones at the public and expect them to be grateful. The public dont matter to the politicians except close to elections so the liés and diversions keep coming.
    But you wont ever get enough concerned public to demand change. The status quo is too solidly set.
     
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    But the court of public opinion is still strong. 40,000 people marched in Washington today - this is despite the fact that nearly half of republicans think America “just has to live with mass shootings”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/06/us-mass-shootings-republicans-poll
     
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    Yes so I heard.
    But those with vested interests, tribal idéologies and financially rewarding benefits just insert their earbuds and go on holiday.
    I would sincerely hope this time something changes. It would restore my belief in miracles.
     
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    The Russian ambassador is regularly invited the white house. By my count, the same one pictured with Trump in this thread was invited to the Obama white house 34 different times.
     
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    Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
     
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    They weren't Obama's first foreign guests. And Obama never snubbed our allies or glorified the killer putin like trump did. Big difference. Obama never defended the indefensible in front of the entire world.

    That you nit pick this issue out of context and ignore everything else is self explanatory.
     
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    The only legitimate reason some do not want Trump to run for office in 2024 is because they fear he'll win.
    Hence, the real reason the Jan 6th partisan committee was put in place by Nancy and her merry band of henchmen.
    There is no proof that Trump attempted to overthrow the government.
    For the good of the country, I hope Trump does not run again though.
     
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    Well least with Biden, we don’t talk to their commie asses much any more, we just let them destroy Ukraine and then threaten us with nuclear annihilation, so there is that…
    I’m not sure DeSantis can re create the “can-do” spirit the working men of all races felt. Right now Trumps greatest asset is letting the democrats make fools of themselves!
     
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    You might want to make up your mind as to which side of the fence you're on..
     
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    There is now.

    The party insiders in both parties don't want their president to run again, too much baggage.

    From a purely political angle, Dems are going to have trouble dealing with DeSantis.
     
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    Where? Their summation, and cherry picked pieces of film is not still :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: at the end of the day.

    Too bad for them.
     
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    If there are pages of legitimate criticisms, and there are, why double down effort to try to shore up the thououghly debunked bullshit?
     
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    nonsense

    Party insiders don't want anyone who isn't a Party insider. But voters do.

    That's certainly true. DeSantis is Trump without the baggage.
     
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    Are you sure about that? If true, is that significant in some way?

    Since we are delving into supposition, would you think that had Obama just gone through an election where he believed his opponent had colluded with the russians to produce a fake dossier in order to sway the election, that perhaps having a word or two with the russian ambassador might have been high on the priority list during the first days of his term? I would.
     
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    In the example I am discussing, it is the outrage over the picture of then-President Trump meeting with the russian ambassador that is fake. You have said it was illegal, and the OP says it's proof of some nefarious activity. That was debunked, and both you and he were proven wrong. It is, in fact, common for the russian ambassador AND his associates to be invited into the white house for official business, AND for social gatherings. It happened at least 34 times during the Obama administration; the data is freely available for anyone to analyze for themselves.

    As truth-seekers, it is incumbent upon us to recognize propaganda and to do independent analysis if we are to come to the truth. There are many, many absolutely legitimate criticisms of Mr. Trump personally, and of his performance as POTUS, but none of the examples given in the OP are amongst them.
     
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    Traditions and protocols are to keep the status quo protected from major changes in their situation. Trump was elected for change.
     
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    If there's justification for Trump to "go to prison", then I want Obama to be put into a cell right beside him! Obama broke the law, and very obviously, no less than THREE TIMES while he was president, as I have noted in this Forum many times.... (overthrowing Libyan government for no valid reason, illegal recess appointments, Bowe Bergdahl "swap"....)
     
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    He wasn't really a president, he was the lazy crook that let the adults do what they could to keep the place intact.

    One of the first things he did was gut State. Why? Putin wanted it.
     

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