Since World War 2 has the United States participated in any just wars?

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Since World War 2 has the United States participated in any just wars?

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  2. 2. No

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm thinking of the main ones: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and the current proxy war in Ukraine, though others could be included.


    What I would like to know is how to determine at the earliest possible stage if a war is going to help anyone (other than the weapons makers).
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would suggest the war starts for a very good reason, and the soldiers go in with the best intentions.

    Then lack of clearly defined goals - that is to say - points at which success can be declared, and lack of communication between both sides, leads to drawn-out suffering which does nobody any good.
     
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    Afghanistan
    Iraq (1st one)
    Proxy war with iran
    Korean War




    Problem is most wars are held back by politics. The Korean War was not only good to back freedom loving people but it was a valuable chess piece on the board in the future. It gives us a great footprint in an area where we need it.

    Anyone who thinks the Afghanistan war was not for rightful reasons is in my opinion a looney SOB. The reason for leaving is just as looney and never should have happened. That place will become a terrorist cesspool again in no time. What in the hell was wrong with not just one president, but two for pulling out is moronic.

    The first Iraq war was great for security in the region and to stop a man from using chemical weapons. Kuwait people will probably never forget that. The second war was not justified though.

    The Proxy War with Iran I’m all in for as well. They’re a very aggressive country. Seriously, look at the list of wars they’re involved in. They’re still involved in Syria and Libya. They have been in almost every war the Middle East has seen. Allowing these people to have a nuke is not acceptable but Biden seems to think so.
     
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    Yes, from what I've heard, that is entirely correct.

    The version I heard was the Afghan War started on October 7th, 2001 and by late November 2001, the Taliban had offered to surrender with no conditions other than amnesty and a place in Afghanistan where Omar could live out his days.

    “The United States is not inclined to negotiate surrenders,” Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said in a news conference at the time. (NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/23/world/middleeast/afghanistan-taliban-deal-united-states.html)

    The Taliban were in no state to negotiate much of a bargain and I suspect the surrender could have included Omar living in a different country.

    This could be an example of the politicians messing up after the military had done so well.
     
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    All of them were fully justified.
     
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    They didn’t deserve a safe haven and I’m glad he was killed the way he was killed. They should not have given him a proper Islamic burial though.
     
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    All of them, every one was well intentioned and with the exception of Afghanistan and Vietnam successful.
     
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